Should there be a National Curfew for those underage?

Absolutely. It'll cut down on the youth crime rate, and be consistent across the nation.
10% (19 votes)
No. Only states should be allowed to impose a curfew on their residents.
9% (17 votes)
No. Only cities should be allowed to impose a curfew on their residents.
23% (45 votes)
No. A curfew is too difficult to enforce and isn't worth the extra cost.
17% (33 votes)
No. It won't do any good, because those who are committing crimes now will just break one more law to do what they do.
42% (81 votes)
Total votes: 195

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I agree with the decision of the third one. It`s more fair than the others. Plus that the people of their city knows better what to do, because that`s their habitat. They should be asked what to be changed and what to remain.
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The curfew for Illinois is 10pm on weekdays and 11pm on weekends. if you're caught driving after curfew it's considered a criminal offense and you could face up to a year in jail. i wrote a blog about it.

it's just dumb. hardly anyone i know follows the law unless their parents make them, and those aren't the kind of people that need to be kept off the streets.

I voted for the second to last one because I believe that we do not need to spend extra costs on enforcing a curfew. I think that there are many other things that the country or the city could use this money on and don't believe that enforcing a curfew should have extra costs included.

Yes there sould be a time set where all minors should be "INTHE HOUSE". I mean look at all the kids that have been kidnapped, look at all the rapes and child molestations. People need to keep there Children in the house. Maybe then we could decrease the rate listed things.... I truly know that a Curfew wouldn't stop these things, but what is wrong with trying.. that is what is wrong with "America Today"... We Don't try. We look past small issues like this and then somebody child somes up missing and Dead. Now Who's to Blame... Put out a curfew where not only the child has to abide by but also the parent as far as having the child in the house at that certain time. That's just my opinion...... That's just Reality...

Kentrez Gardner..

son_of_disaster's picture
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Why try something that won't work? I'd much rather have my money go to something that works than paying for something that wouldn't work.

_Meke's picture
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I hadn't thought about this issue from the perspective of a child's safety. You're definitely right, I always feel uneasy when I see young kids out late at night.

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Cloudydream's picture

Take a second to imagine if there really was a national curfew. I assume an I.D would have to be shown to prove a person is really old enough to be out at a later time? Now you have an increase in fake I.D.'s.
There would need to be more police on patrol watching for underage children breaking curfew. Then there's money needed for salaries and various whatnot. Where would this money come from?
And there is a funny thing about people - they tend to like to break rules. If I am not mistaken, when alcohol was prohibited the number of alcohol related death actually rose and led to more violence (like the mob...). In comparison, when you tell underage kids they aren't allowed out after a certain time, they're more likely to sneak out.
All too many have that "rules are made to be broken" mentality.
Who's to say those kids are doing anything wrong anyway? May I just point out that crimes can be commited at any time of the day?

elkc's picture

It just seems like the more things that are restricted (underage drinking for instance) the more that people are going to want to do them. So if there's a national curfew I think a lot more teens are going to break it just because it's more thrilling. You know what I mean?

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Curfews don't work. The people who are out late will always be out late. It is the same logic I learned from Lance about guns. Just because we ban guns and put a curfew will stop law abiding people only, so both are superficial in there usefullness and show how flawed they are very quickly.

Cheezmaestro's picture

Banning guns doesn't keep criminals from getting ahold of one and shooting someone. It just keeps law abiding people from being able to defend themselves...
-Cheez Out-

son_of_disaster's picture
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Exactly. So at the same time a curfew will only keep law abiding people from going out, not the criminals.

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Okay, then. I have never really needed a curfew, but hey! Some kids do. So, for those kids, I picked that the responsibility should lie with the state. I didn't pick the national government because that responsibility is not supposed to lie with them. The guys that came up with the national government purposed it to govern the states, which, in turn, govern the people. In all honesty, the cities and townships should look to the state for guidance then enforce what the state says. But, the real question is, "Should we interpret the state government as we should interpret the federal government?" I don't think that makes sense. Does that make sense?

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Yup. While I don't like the idea of a curfew in the least bit, I heartily agree with your statement about the federal government. I've been antifederalist since I first heard the term. The ONLY role the feds are supposed to play is that they're supposed to regulate the relationships between states and provide protection for every state through the ministry of defence. Ie. the military. So if a state has a problem with another state, the federal government handles that. For instance, if Georgia wants to annex parts of Tennessee to gain certain water supplies... hey wait a second! This all sounds vaguely familiar... Ok ok I got the example from the news but you get the idea. Anyways, if that happened, the feds would intervene. Also, if there was a war, let's say that Mexico wants to take back California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Texas after we kicked their butts and took it years ago, the whole of the nation would go to war and the military would be called into action. Anyways, I say we have another revolution. The system, as it is right now, is too corrupt to do it by legal means. I say we start the Revolution, not of independence, but the Revolution of Real Democracy. Whoa... I went pretty long on this comment! You're awesome if you read the whole thing!

I don't mean a violent revolution... I mean a revolution where everyone votes for me and I change the system so that it's purely democratic. Oh and a side note, my mom's side of the family is from Tennessee so I am against Georgia taking any land from it and will personally kick anyone's butt who tries to do so using my amazingness kung-fu skills that I picked up while running the hard streets of some large, cold, eastern city... Haha, I'm kidding. I'm from Tucson, Az and the only thing I know is crazy...
-Cheez Out-

Mjoiner7's picture

Kids shouldn't be working late. If they have school the next morning then why the hell are they out late??? Duh. America is extremely screwed up. The "No child left behind" crap is stupid. It's not that they can't learn the stuff, it's that their parents are too lax and too scared of attitudes to take after-school activities and video games away from them. Parents allow their children to have so many distractions and then want to fuss about the school system not teaching their kids anything. Bull..

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Ummm... number one thing in democracy is freedom. Are you saying that the government should decide for the kids and parents that their child should go to school instead of work? I'm going to get personal here but I believe it will help serve a point. My grandmother never went to school after 5th grade. To this day she doesn't know how to read. I love her. She worked in a sewing factory for thirty years while at the same time raising my mother and her four brothers. If you measure succes by how much you know or how much you make and then apply that template to everyone's life then, I'll say it straight up, you're wrong. My grandma is no less of a person because of her lack of an education. By my measure of success, she's the world's greatest grandma and that's a statistic you can never take away from someone.
Education is not the issue here. Freedom is.
-Cheez Out-

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I'm not sure if parents are to blame 100% for how or why their children turn out a certain way. Kids really shouldn't be working late. But there are some cases where children are put in a situation where they have to work. I have a couple of friends who work since they were 13 because of their family's status. I don't think it's accurate to assume that kids who are out late at night are up to no good...

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I'm not sure if you're for or against No Child Left Behind.

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I voted no to a national curfew, but I opted for a state/city wide curfew. I think curfews are okay if they are not used as a reason to sweep all kids off the street. When I was younger I was stopped several times by police officers just for walking down the street and minding my own business. The excuse was that I always fit the description of someone who just did something. Usually I was walking to or from after school activities, political campaigning, karate classes or work. Sometimes, I was just walking to walk. I do see the need for some kind of curfew to help keep kids in check, but I am unsure about doing something like that without creating a whole new bureaucratic office (Bureau of Curfews?) We shouldn't overtax the police department with it, but who else would do it? There really is no happy medium to this problem.

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Yes I don't like the idea of curfews. For me, it was a throw up between cities deciding on it or just not have it at all. I chose the latter. I say, 'down with government programs!' Except of course ones that you can't just get rid of overnight, such as Social Security. Stuff like that you have to phase out so that your granny, who's been paying it all her life, isn't left pennyless when she quits her job...
-Cheez Out-

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I don't think curfews will do any good either. It'll make more crimes go up because there will be people going off on their curfews. My vote went to the last option as well. Then again, it might depends by who you mean "underage" and at what time is the curfew going to be...

No...actually I don't agree on any curfew. It sounds so anti-freedom. It's opposite of what America is supposed to stand for!

And Man, I miss this place! After settling down at my new college, I'm ready to be progressive again. Hello everyone!

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Welcome back :-D

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There shouldnt be any law enforcing curfews. We are in a free country. Why cant there be underage people out late at night? It should be up to the parents or guardians to give their underage children a curfew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheezmaestro's picture

I agree. Down with curfews! Lets start international sanctions against curfews! Actually, lets write another amendment to the constitution banning curfews! Yes! Down With The Curfews! Join A.P.A.C today and help us fight curfews! (Amazingness People Against Curfews)
-Cheez Out-

brianfactor's picture

I think that it is not only not a national issue, but it also won't work and doesn't allow for the occasional exceptions that need to be made for the rule every now and then.

So... I wish I could select more than one option.

Enough said.
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Isn't there already an implied curfew for new drivers that are 16 who cannot be on the road past 12 am?

Melissa

berlin's picture

I voted for the last option but I would also like to add the fact that it is nearly impossible for a curfew to be enforced without taking away from more important law enforcement. Police would waste their time trying to keep underage people off the streets and not be able to keep watch for more serious law violations. It is also not generally enforced even when there is one.

Kelly..'s picture

I believe it will work if the law are tough and do not back down. To ensure it works, I think that if they are caught in the streets after the curfew then there should be a severe punishment for everyone no matter their excuse! =D

Cheezmaestro's picture

I would have to be tazered and knocked out to be taken into custody for "being out late". Late is relative anyways so who's going to decide what time people have to be in?
-Cheez Out-

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My excuse, "I fell asleep on the train and missed my station."

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Iadoresweets's picture

I chose the last one because in our State, Hawaii, people would just find ways to break curfew. And even if it's for under age crime, it wouldn't do much. Plus, no teenager wants to stay home at night. Especially on the island. At night is when everyone really goes out. And if they put a law on curfew, people here would rebel and still not heed to it. And if anything, they would cause more trouble to show that they can still do things even if there's a law prohibiting it.

But I'm just speaking for my state. I'm not sure about other states considering I'm in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Cheezmaestro's picture

I totally agree. Most teenagers would rebel and breaking the curfew would become another way to look cool... which is what life's all about... no just kidding about that last part!
-Cheez Out-

zena princess's picture

I don't like the answers you had for this poll. The fact is; the parents are the ones who should set curfews for their kids. NOT the government, state or local. The police will already check out anyone who looks like a minor out after a certain time anyway. There's some things that just shouldn't be messed with. Unless they are having a particularly violent and criminal time committed by kids. That includes gangs. THEN it would make sense. The fed doesn't need to have anything to do with it.

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Managing Director of Progressive U

The issue is government curfews, not curfews as a whole. Thus, the last option is the one that fits your standards.

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I live in an area with moderate (to middle high) crime rates; there are lots of gangs. Imposing a curfew would not prevent individuals committing crimes. If they break the law already, what is a curfew going to do? Plus, to enforce a curfew in an area with larger population, it would be extremely difficult to actually check who is underage or not (especially if they don't carry ids and such).

In short, I voted for the last one. There are better ways to lower violence than by enforcing a curfew which punishes both the good and bad minors.

moomegan's picture

While I voted for the last option, the second to last also has a point.

A nationwide curfew is just ridiculous in general though.
I live in a small town where a curfew isn't necessary (extremely low crime rate even among teens). In fact, a curfew may hinder if enacted. I can only think of all the times I have come home from a school-sanctioned event at one in the morning or from a job after midnight.

"It'll cut down on the youth crime rate, and be consistent across the nation."

This is a generality. This cannot be true across the nation.

Though a curfew may deter a few teens from criminal activity, the majority of repeat offenders (let's face it) view themselves too "hardcore" to actually obey something as minuscule as a curfew.
And for those who are just innocently hanging with friends or driving home from a basketbal game that went late in another city just have to pay for the curfew.

As you can tell, I'm against curfews in general.

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Yay! Somebody who hates curfews and loves basketball games!(I'm inferring that last part...) Yes, I totally agree. I'm not a criminal and I would break that law if it was enacted! Nobody but my parents tell me when to be home at night and even they have a hard time.... =P
-Cheez Out-

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This is a generality. This cannot be true across the nation.

This is a fault of the fact we cannot have long things for the choices. The curfew would be consistent across the nation, not the crime rate.

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_Meke's picture
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Maybe kids who work late can have some kind of special card to carry.

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Cheezmaestro's picture

I was just kidding. If the curfew was actually put in place then your idea would be a feasable solution...
-Cheez Out-

Cheezmaestro's picture

That idea occured to me but I dismissed it on the idea of having to carry around ANOTHER card. I'm sick of cards! Society is bombarded with cards! Credit cards, debit cards, library cards, id cards, social security cards... you name it! Some are useful, no doubt about it. For instance, when I want to throw myself into a bottomless pit of debt I might want to yank out my credit card and buy a lifetime supply of endangered whale blubber...
-Cheez Out-

I picked the 1st one because growing up in La there is a lot of kids who's parents do not care about their curfew. If the law helps kids get their life together by preventing them from getting into trouble and keeping kids off the street durring certain hours that drunk, crazier people are out i am for it. I have actually gotten a curfew ticket and did not like it at the time, but now i can understand why they have it.

Cheezmaestro's picture

While I agree that some kids need help getting their acts together. I don't think that the government should regulate it though. For me, it's a throw up between whether letting cities put in their own curfew laws or, not bother with it at all.(I likey this one better... for reasons, various and sundry =P)
-Cheez Out-

misnomer's picture

What about kids who have to be out late, because that's when they work? the Police will stop them, waste time while the student has to explain it, and prove they are in fact out due to work, and the police will have wasted time, and the student will have been needlessly embarrassed.

Cheezmaestro's picture

Exactly. A lot of people are out late at night for good reasons. Heck! I've been out till 2:00 in the morning after church!
-Cheez Out-

I take it you voted no?

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weezyf's picture

Illegal immigration is just one small topic in a whole range of issues in this nation. I think a curfew would just limit us more and depict how much control the government really has over the individual now adays.

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Cheezmaestro's picture

The poll is about a curfew. One of the choices is "No, because(slightly abridged)it's a waste of money." That's taxpayers money and, by extension, the correct use of taxpayers money now becomes an issue applicable to this discussion.
-Cheez Out-

This isn't a poll about immigration, but we'd love to see you blog about it.

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ionsolder's picture

I voted no because why waste money chasing kids when their parents should be doing it and we should be chasing illegals out of our country! Why should they get a free college education, free health care, free medical care, and free social security checks from the USA just because they can jump a fence! We need to spend the money at the borders!

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That sort of thing isn't usually appreciated. By that, I mean changing the subject entirely. If you want to talk about illegal immigration, write a blog. You'll get a ton of reads probably.

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