I do believe there is a God. I am a Christian; However, I don't live my life by the bible. I have a few question to the people that are Christian.
Why do you think I should be stone because I like females?
Yes, I understand that it is a "sin". Major of the world are sinners. If you over eat, you just sinned. If you eat seafood, you have sin. If you have thought about doing it to the person in front of you in class, bingo, you have just sinned. Some sins are crazy. Who are you to judge.
Since I have sinned, who should be the one to stone me?
Let those without sin cast the first stone. What have you done today?
No where in the Bible does it say it is a sin for a woman to have sex with another female. However, it does say it is a sin for her to have sex with an animal.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
Leviticus 20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
Leviticus 20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
The real facts, a man can on commit adultery by having sex with another man's woman, marriage or engaged.
Sorry you are not correct in that comment. It IS written in Gods word that "Man" shall not have sex with the same sex. One thing many do not understand is the word "Man" it means human. But to go on further God states male as well as female. Romans 1 :24-27 state it. As well as in the book of Lev.
Romans 1:26 says: For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For "even" their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature . 27 states: Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman , burned in their lust for one another , men with men committing what is shameful , and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. The facts are both men and women sin and both men and women commit adultery not only by have sex outside of marriage but thinking about it is also sin. That is also written in Gods word.
truth is right. Only male homosexuality is outlawed in the Bible. Presumably because they thought the sperm were the source of life (there are other laws against male masturbation, and things have to be done for nighttime emissions as well). Female homosexuality isn't mentioned at all.
No, all homosexuality is outlawed . That is written in the book of Romans as well. Romans 1 : 26 . For that reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their "women" exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. And verse 27 says: Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. So you see God said ALL sin is evil and will be rewarded by death.
If you go on to read the whole book of Romans 1 you will see what else is sin.
As I am not Christian, I do not own a Christian Bible. So, I concede to your argument, and thank you for enlightening me.
Ok, for some reason I believed you had a bible. If you would like I can post for you what is written. If not please understand I do not and can not judge you on sin. I to am a sinner but I am saved by the grace of God of Israel. My sins are no longer before Gods eyes. I hope what I posted did in fact help you understand. You are welcome.
First of all Christians are to follow the whole of Gods word or not at all. There is not picking and choosing of what is to be followed and what is not. Now, we are under the New Testament. We do not stone the sinners . You will be judged by God on the last day of your life for your sin against God and HIS word. We who are saved are saved by Grace. Like I said We do not have to cast the stones at you. They have been cast already. Judgment is coming to all souls including yours. It is sin because God said it is. In the middle east however , they will stone you for the sin or hang or behead you. It is the law of God that sin will be punished. Even though we do not have to cast stones at you like I stated the stones have been cast by you . You have judged yourself a sinner by the sin you have claimed. No soul will enter into heaven with sin on their souls. It is that easy. If you die in sin you will be judged as a sinner. And you and all sinners will suffer for that sin that is on you. There are two death. One is the body we will all see that. The second is the soul No one should want to go through that at all. Hell and the lake of fire is not worth anything at all.
You see I am without sin , my sins are forgiven me. However, I do not cast stones. Like I told you , you have cast them yourself by your claim of the sin of being homosexual. I could go on and say. Jesus will cast that stone . He is sinless and Holy. He died that no one should have to suffer the finial death. Do not think any one with sin will get away with it IF it is not repented of. Judgment can come at any time. Are YOU ready for it? I am.
One other comment. Christians don't judge. They tell you what is written in Gods word. If one feels they have been judged by the word of God that is their soul who is judged by it's maker. Not the soul telling you the truth of what God has actually said. No one can send you to heaven or hell. Only the Lord can do that . However, you do have that choice to sin or not to If you chose to sin and know it IS sin that is all on you. You chose to be against God and HIS word so do not feel judged by what you chose to do. Again, no one can judge you to hell or heaven. However, souls can and will say what sin is and that is not judgment it is truth.
I'm not sure which Christians you've been around lately, but there are plenty that do plenty of judging. After all, if no one was judging except God, then it wouldn't matter if homosexuals were allowed to marry, because all people would do is say 'that is a sin', and move on with their lives. Instead, they lynch homosexuals, or bully them, or have violent protests, etc. And PLENTY of people say something along the lines of 'you're going to burn in hell for your sins.' They may not be the ones making the final decision, but they are judging the actions of those who are not like them.
First of all there is only one type of Christian and that is one who is born again according to the word of God. You may think you are being judged because you are not in Gods will because of your sin. When a Christian tells you or anyone else in this word who is not saved what God says they cry foul! Judgment! It is not judgment. One other thing is this. Not all who claim to be Christian are. The citizens of this world have the God given right to say what is right and what is wrong. God tells us what sin is. WE who are truly HIS follow HIS word. The bible. Those who are in sin will not see that it is wrong to do what they are doing . Why? Because the bible says God allows it. Romans again states that God gave them over to a reprobate mind because the their lust for strange flesh. All sin is Sin. There is no two ways about it.Sin is an abomination to God and to most humans who know right from wrong. You know your fight is with God not the messengers of God. Take it up with HIM and see what HE says. Really, you will not change what is written nor will you make anyone who hates sin change their minds. God said that the act of homosexuals is against nature. Meaning it is not normal. God made man and woman. Nothing else. If you want to claim you are being judged so be it. Be judged by your sin you admit to. You are the one who puts your sin out in front of the eyes of the world not Christians. Most sinners hide their sin. Homosexuals don't. That sin is not greater or less of a sin as any other like rape, murder, child molesters , and so on. Sin is sin and it will be have the payment paid in full at your judgment. You know if that offends you maybe you should ask yourself why. It is not only Christians who say that the way of the homosexual is wrong and not natural. Many non believers state that very fact. Warnings are given for the soul. It is your choice to accept it or not. And only souls who are under the blood of Jesus are Christians. You can not say that one is homosexual and be a Christian. That thinking goes against God and HIS word.
The fact that the homosexual are fighting to be "normal" and brought their sin into the light as if everyone will agree with them is there mistake. Even IF the homosexual marry it is still sin and will never be accepted by those who fear God. The president of this country stated he agree with the homosexual marriage. He also claimed to be Christian. He lied . Liars do go to hell , that is also in Romans 1. The bottom line is this. You believe or you don't . You repent or you don't. It does not matter what laws of man are passed and who thinks sin is cool and ok. Judgment is coming. Oh, citizens of this county do not want what is not normal in their eyes to be forced on them. Sin has no rights.
Normally I'd probably not respond to this post, just because it seems like you are very fixed in your beliefs, and no amount of writing from me will change those beliefs.
But, you said a number of things that ruffle my tailfeathers.
1) "Sin is an abomination to God and to most humans who know right from wrong."
I just want to make sure I'm understanding what you're saying. You say that all humans are born with the ability to know right from wrong, a 'right' given by God. Then claim that God allows those who sin to be unaware of their sins, so now only 'most' people know right from wrong, yes?
The problem I have with that is that there are a multitude of sins, and no one is free from said sins. Therefore, no one, by your reasoning, knows right from wrong.
2) You know your fight is with God not the messengers of God.
Nope, my fight is with those who seek to impose their religion on others who may or may not believe, via passing laws or prohibiting laws from being passed that allow things like gay marriage. Pretty sure God isn't trying to do that.
3) If you want to claim you are being judged so be it. Be judged by your sin you admit to. You are the one who puts your sin out in front of the eyes of the world not Christians.
I'm hoping you mean the ubiquitous 'you', because it's bad to make assumptions about people. Also, I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of Christians who sin in the eyes of others as well. Again, you're seeming to imply that Christians are without sin....
4) That sin is not greater or less of a sin as any other like rape, murder, child molesters , and so on.
Actually, homosexuality is comparable to murder and idolatry, but not to rape or child molestation (those are lesser crimes, and depending on how you read some passages, are encouraged). According to tradition, anyway. I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise according to Christian belief.
If you argue that all sin is equal, then lying is just as bad as homosexuality and murder in your books. I'm willing to bet that you've lied at least once in your life.
5) Oh, citizens of this county do not want what is not normal in their eyes to be forced on them.
No one is forcing you to marry someone of the same sex. You know what happens if gay marriage is made legal? Gays marry. The law recently passed in NC that prohibits any gay partners from having benefits will drive away a lot of business from the state. Why? Because gays are productive members of society. They aren't running into your home and having sex on your living room floor. They're living their own lives out. You may think it's wrong, just as much as you think it's wrong that I'm not a Christian. But you don't have the right to tell me how to live my life, so long as my life does not interfere with yours. Same goes for homosexuals.
You seem to be smart. However, the more we are smart, the more we can qualify for being stupid. Our answers to the following question will determine which we are:
If our governments drop all laws what would become or be the states of our society?
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