So despite all the writing I've done on the subject of having sexual or romantic relationships with multiple people at the same time; I'm just starting to traverse those waters, for the first time in my life, and I'm finding them choppy, and it is bringing up unexpected feelings and jealousy I wasn't aware was in this heart of mine. And, the more I think about why I'm jealous, the more I realize what a Disneyique view of romance I have; the reason I want one person to be "mine own," is because I have this "happily ever after" scenario in my head that women and girls in this culture are brought up on.
I remember being seven or so and writing stories with my sisters about our dream weddings; we'd spend hours on this type of fantasizing; which I remember being encouraged by our mom. We talked about how many babies we'd have, what their names would be, what our husbands would be like. Only now do I realize how flawed this type of thinking is; grooming girls for marriage is almost like grooming young plantation kids in the South for future slave ownership; we are taught, almost from birth, to pursue, to track, to hunt down a man, and bind him for life to us, for the purpose of reproduction. What a strange goal. When you stop and think about it, it is seriously sick and twisted, yet it seems to be the primary life-goal of many in our culture, men and women, but primarily women.
Men, on the other hand, are often "groomed" by elders to avoid this type of "entrapment", jokes are made about how sex ceases after marriage, life ends after marriage, etc, etc. So we've created this strange dichotomy where men are the hunted and women are the huntresses. The White Stripes have a great new song about this topic; I can't remember the name of the song at the moment, but I think this explains a lot of our relationship woes...we enter these endless chases where we end up feeling like a dog chasing it's tail; there is no "winning" in this game, everyone is a loser in the end. The relationship loses all zest and excitement once the chase is finished; marriage is the end of the pursuit, and so, disappointed, many couples break up shortly after that.
What if we could change that dichotomy somehow? What if, instead of desiring to "own" someone else, we could change that into desire to genuinely care for and about another person? And what if that included understanding that that other person might sometimes desire someone else? Can we (can I,) learn to be ok with that, after a lifetime of being taught to try to find the white knight who will ride by and save me from a lifetime of boredom and depression, by taking me out of my lonely tower and riding off into the sunset with me? What if, instead, I pictured a flawed and dirty, possibly also depressed and bored, genuine human, either male or female, with real problems, addictions, annoying habits and really amazing traits as well; someone who amazes and annoys me in turns, someone who sometimes causes me pain and rage, as well as comfort and love...
What would that world look like? If we could embrace everyone for who they where, in that time and space, if we could learn to love and except real people, and not search endlessly for a fantasy that doesn't exist, if we could love, with as much ease, the homeless addict and the richest man in the world (of course, in my fantasy world, there are no rich men,) if we could see the best in folks of all stripes; well, we'd have a lot less cuddle deficiency and loneliness in the world, that much is certain...
We need to see social constructs, such as marriage for what they are; marriage was, after all, a Middle-Ages ritual which helped to set up the hierarchy to keep people under the rule of the king; children obeyed the wife, the wife obeyed the husband, the husband obeyed the lord, the lord obeyed the king, the king obeyed the pope, and, of course, the pope supposedly obeyed god.
Love ya,
Carrot




this goes right along my blog called, "Gender Is A Limitiation," you may have already read it, but I just wanted to give you props for furthering my cause, lol.
I totally agree about the whole grooming little girls for marriage thing. That is one thing I find almost disgusting about our culture.
I am married, and I don't have anything against marriage per se, but I do have a whole lot against marriage between people who don't even like each other, especially when they reproduce.
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"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
Hmmm....
I personally could never be in an open relationship. I'm a jealous person, and I don't particularily think I need to change. However, there is something to be said for seeing marriage and other romantic relationships for what they are rather than idealizing them.
I'll admit that for personal reasons I'm not entirely sure I will get married, although I do want to. When/if I do, I understand that it won't be perfect. In fact, I've idealized my future marriage as staying together forever, raising kids, arguing, and eventually losing our hearing together so that our fights will make even less sense. I think the thing we need to do is to understand that perhaps love does not concur all, and love marriage for its flaws as well as the good it will bring. After all, my personal definition of love is loving a person for their flaws, such as the way they are always late.
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Jealousy is for the weak. If polymoury helps us climb the valley up and out of jealousy, I support it.
my documentary...
"some folks say that a hippie won't steal,
but I caught three in my corn field"
--John Hartford
And actually, you'll find, if you meditate long enough on the roots of your jealousy, that they where based in the petty assumption that you somehow had some control over the other person's life, that you somehow "own" them.
This is clearly inaccurate, and yet, this seems to be the basic structure of our society, this idea that we should marry and then "own the rights to," a certain person.
I instead chose to recognize that the people I have sex with are still free individuals, I have no more rights over them then I did before I had sex with them. They are my lovers, but they are still free human beings, and as such, they can chose to be attracted to, and have intimate relationships with, other people.
This is not easy; currently I'm in a sort of triangle between myself, a male friend and his other female lover; we all met up today to talk about the implications of this arrangement; I was actually relieved to find that I felt no weirdness or tension between the three of us; I had let go of all the jealousy and anger I had previously held; I had recognized that these where emotions that I had control of, that jealousy isn't something that we are just subjected to, and as such, I was able to see everything to some extent through the eyes of the other girl involved in this interesting relationship. She too, admitted that she had struggled a bit with jealousy, but had dealt with this emotion and moved on as well.....
To the wild future of lovin'
Carrot
I still believe that marriage and monogamy is possible without thinking that you "own" the other person. Maybe I just like monogamy belcause it makes life simpler, but I believe that it is, for me at least, anyone who feels differently has the right to, it is the best way to go. My ex was friends with a lot of girls, and I wasn't always crazy about that (I did have reasons, in some cases, to be suspicious of their intentions) but still had to get over it.
Marriage and other relationships aren't always for sex or money. Sometimes those aren't even considerations. As for owning a person, I would never expect a significant other to ask my permission to go somewhere or do something, and I would never as permission myself. I suppose it is nice to know, but I don't lie awake at night worrying about what the guy I'm dating is doing or who he's with.
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I had a lot of resistance to getting married, mainly because my primary orientation to understanding marriage is my parents, and I have to say, I never *ever* want to be in their situation.
I have always preferred to be monogamous when in a deep romantic relationship. I have similar feelings to carrot though, as far as not being into "ownership" of people.
The only reason I got married was because I got pregnant. I felt it was the right thing to do.
Don't get me wrong, I loved and do love my husband and felt at the time I wanted to always be with him. I just didn't ever want to be that woman whose husband can barely tolerate her and so he stays married, disconnected and wastes his energy on entertaining fantasies about other women.
I read a part of a pagan wedding vow that says in place of "till death do us part," "for as long as our love shall last." I really like that.
I plan on staying committed and monogamous, and I don't regret that decision.
Part of what I love and did love about my husband was that our relationship was very free. I watched other women at work flirt with him before anyone knew we were together. It didn't bother me at all. In fact, i liked it. It made me feel good. It made him seem even more attractive to me that other women wanted him.
We used to go dancing a lot, and only got out rarely now with a baby. I love to dance, and I will dance with anyone. My husband would often leave for a cigarette and come back to find me dancing with another man. He doesn't mind at all, and in fact it makes him more excited.
We are not swingers, but we are also both open and honest people. I have been in relationships that were governed by possessiveness and jealousy. I decided I would never live in that kind of energy again. I am happy i found someone who understands that.
I've also mentioned elsewhere that i am bisexual, and so I do not mind at all if my husband notices or responds to a beautiful woman. I notice too, and I would rather have my mate understand me than to have to hide from him in order to keep peace.
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