So I've been at my sister and brother-in-laws place the past few days; on the farm I grew up on, in Prattsburgh New York, the farm that will one day be my sustainable (or as sustainable as possible,) community. It has been very cold and snowy here...I'm really enjoying "real winter," as opposed to the rainy, Pacific Northwest winters. This morning I went for a long, meandering walk out in the Douglas firs (at one time, this place was a Christmas tree farm.) I visited the creek that was basically my home growing up; from May through October, my sisters and I would spend all of our free time in that creek, picking wild rasberries and blackberries, searching for salamanders, catching minnows, building dams, and playing a game we called "no rules soccer," which was basically kicking a soccer ball around in the water, and trying our damnedest to catch each other and dunk each other under water. Wonderful memories.
Down by a bend in that creek, there is a giant willow tree under which we began to build a clubhouse once upon a time, but which never got finished. The clubhouse is long gone, now the only thing under that giant willow is an old Jeep Cherokee which died years ago. As I gazed at that creek and the willow, I began to picture people down in the creek, spreading acorns out in the water to let the tannins run away with the current. I saw a wikiup under the willow, someone pissing on the bank of the creek, a momma inside the wikiup nursing a baby, snowshoes made out of old pvc pipe piled up around the wikiup. Basically, the adult version of the clubhouse came to mind; but people would actually be living there.
As I walked around the rest of the property, I began to ask myself important questions, such as 1) how many people would this place support? There are about five acres out of fourteen which are actually cleared (plus a giant, one-acre yard which obviously needs to be turned into a food-forest,) and since I'm not planning on clearing any more then those five acres, what would I grow to be the most efficent and self-sufficent as possible? How many people could you (mostly) feed on five (six) acres?
2) What foods would we have to still buy, or go elsewhere to get? I think I'd have goats for milk and cheese, chickens for eggs, plus all of your standard veggies and some fruit bushes and trees, but other then that, I think I'd have to take trips to harvest acorns (for flour,) venison, fish, etc. We would have to purchase things like cooking oil, other grains, coffee, etc. There is a pond across the road I'd be interested in leasing or purchasing as well, to stock with fish and maybe even wild rice, which used to be abundant in Upstate New York, before the land was all tiled and drained to make room for commercial farming. The Seneca people used to harvest wild rice; they also had crabapple orchards, maple sugar groves and of course, lots and lots of fish (rainbow trout, picceral and the like.) Maple sugaring would provide all the sweetening we'd need on our farm; there are also lots of edible wild plants I was checking out today: lots of wild carrots and fern fiddleheads, mushrooms, fruit (blackberries, rasberries, apples, ect.) I'd probably also want to keep bees, honey is very delicious and nutritious and the wax can be used for a variety of things, from candles to soap.
So there are lots of things to learn/consider. In my research today, I learned about a couple of books which would probably give me a better idea about how to be self-sufficient on five acres; one is called Five Acres and Independence and the other is called The Self-Sufficient Life.
Love ya,
Carrot




You are awesome. Keep daydreaming. I especially like the bee hive thing. i think that is a very valuable resource.
There are several buddhist monastaries out here in the canyons and most of them have bee hives, probably for the same reasons.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
You should talk to my mom...I think you two would get along splendidly. :P She's also looking into the whole "live off the land" thing. We currently have three milking goats (one died earlier this year, so we had four at the beginning of the year), and nine babies. 34 chickens (that finally started laying recently). Two dogs, a cat (I hate cats). Mom has a really awesome garden that she started this year (we only moved to this property in May). Also, we have an orchard from the previous owners. Dad recently shot a deer on our land. We're looking to get cows. And I think that's everything. We have a total of 68 acres and it's pretty neat. I'm not big into the outdoors (it has bugs and heat and snakes...but mostly bugs), but I think it's awesome what my mom's doing (not that I'd ever tell her that :P).
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
I'm always excited when I hear about families doing the whole "back to the earth" thing! People always try to descourage my communal dreams by saying things like "those communes in the seventies all fell apart...why reinvent the wheel?" But I like to look at the success stories, like yours, and also to say "look at communes that still exist from the seventies...places like The Farm in Tennessee and Black Bear Ranch in Northern California..."
Places like those, the farms that have continued to exist since the seventies, give me hope.
Love ya,
Carrot
There's definitely a lot of work involved, though...a lot of people have a more romantic idea of farming, thinking it'll be just like Little House on the Prairie and it'll be perfect and yadah yadah yadah...but in reality it's a whole lot of backbreaking relentless disappointing work. So I think that a key is introducing it the right way and going in little steps. People nowadays don't want to work, so that's why I think the farms have fallen apart.
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
Most of my work experience has been on farms...it really isn't an easy life; I have no Little House on the Prarie dreams (I never really understand it when people talk about Little House on the Prarie being "prefect" anyway, they had countless problems, like illnesses that nearly killed them, Mary got sick and went blind, they nearly starved to death one winter, they often lived on little more then potatoes, they where often frightened that Native folks would attack them, etc.) But anyway, all that aside, I do wonder if I have what it takes in me; I like being lazy, but then, once I do get busy doing some hard work, I really get into it and enjoy it.
I prefer hard physical labor to office work or anything like that, this much I'm certain of. I enjoy being out in all kinds of weather, crawling down rows of plants weeding while talking and singing to the plants; being bundled up to go out and do chores...
I think I'm the right kind of person to try my hand at this dream, but then again, I could definately be wrong.
Love ya,
Carrot
Oh, I wasn't saying you were like that...you said something in your blog about growing up on a farm, so I'd imagine you know enough about it.
Yeah, I don't get the whole Little House obsession...I guess it's just the way the tv series made it out to be...everything worked out just fine in the end. *shrug*
Ugh, I'm the exact opposite...I'd much rather be inside at a desk than outside. But you sound like my mom, and she's definitely been doing well at it. Hold on to your dream, because with the way the economy's going, we just might need it. ;)
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
There are definitely some differences between the books and the movies. Actually, I liked the prequels to the Laura books a lot more. Anyways, I think what people idealize is the spirit, faith, and how the family gets through everything together no matter what and they still have fun in ways that you wouldn't neccessary see has being exciting.
Like what you've read? Well, then here's more:
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I definately think you need to grow something that can be turned into alcohol. This will greatly increase tribal harmony and mirth. In upstate New York apples would be an obvious choice but it takes years to establish an orchard. I think a lot of apples go unpicked around the state and maybe you and your tribe can work out deals to sharecrop from neighboring farms.
Apples are easy to turn into apple wine or hard cider. Hard cider can be turned into Applejack by putting it in a barrel and letting in freeze which forces the alcohol to the center of the barrel. You then run a red-hot poker through the ice and pour out the concentrated applejack which is pretty heady stuff.
There are also lots of grapes in upstate New York. You might be able to establish grape vines a lot faster than you can grow an apple orchard.
There are also certain herbs that are useful. One in particular grows like a weed. A danger might be that you all would get so mellow that you would forget to do the very difficult and grueling daily work of subsistance farming.
There is already a small apple orchard on the property that was planted by my mom years ago; unfortunately, it has been sadly neglected and deer have eaten the trees down to almost nothing; because of this, they have a hard time producing and would definitely need some help. Yeah, Upstate is the place for apples and grapes though...I agree, making some sort of alcohol would be a cash cow...
I've never heard of Applejack, but it sounds delicious...I'll have to look it up. I love making and consuming homemade ciders and wines...delicious!
As for the "herb" you speak of; not sure I want to go that route, especially if I want to establish myself in a legit midwifery business.
Love ya,
Carrot