Why lie, the truth is so much fun. One of my co-workers feels the need to tell his friends that he voted for Obama, because he is African American he thinks that is what many people expect that he would have done. He does not tell them otherwise to avoid making them mad or starting an argument. I feel it is fun to tell people that I did not vote for Obama. I enjoy hearing comments like, “psss”, “you racist”, “I hope you go to hell”, “typical white guy”, and my all time favorite “I hope that Obama makes you a slave”. I have heard it all.
I would like you all to know that Obama won by only 10 million popular votes, McCain still got 59 million. The Electoral College makes it look like a blow out but it was not. Obama worked it right and got the states that would give him the most electorates and the ultimate win. I know that Obama is going to be the next president and I will not disagree with anyone on that, but I will still say that Obama is not the best choice for America that is my opinion.
Getting back to my co-worker, I think he has no reason to lie. I am fairly sure that he will not get the same reaction that I got. My co-worker thinks that Obama will not get re-elected and I hope he is right. I like his reason and that is “black people have gotten over the hype of getting a black guy in office”. It makes sense to me. If it is true that a lot of people voted for Obama, not because of the issues, but because of the fact that he is black, then it stands to reason that Obama will find it harder to get re-elected. I find it odd that my co-worker is afraid of what his friends will say to him because of how he voted. How about you, do you lie about who you voted for or change your story depending on who is around?
Well, I didn't vote (I'm only 16 *bleh*), but I do tell anyone who asks/if I'm talking to someone on the subject, that I supported McCain. One of the main reasons is because Obama is so blatantly pro-choice, so I have no problem whatsoever telling people that I don't like his policies. I just hope he doesn't pass the FOCA...if he doesn't pass it, then I'll have more respect for him...a little.
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
Me and acronyms do not get along...at least not today and I am not knowledgable enough to make up what "FOCA" means. I gather it has something to do with the freedom to abort and I understand your stance I just want to know what exactly it means.
I hope you maintaine your objectivity when you are of voting age.
Love is like a box of chocolates; if you chose wisely you won’t be disappointed and have to spit it out. ~T
FOCA=Freedom of Choice Act...my opinion on this is outlined in a blog I wrote:
http://progressiveu.org/blog/50341-freedom-choice-act-thumbs-down-both-a...
To sum it up, though, it's a bill that will take away all abortion laws in the United States and basically undo all the work that the pro-life movement has done in the past 30+ years.
RESPECT LIFE
http://progressiveu.org/blog/respectlife
"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
McCain is pro-Choice. He originally wanted Joe Lieberman as VP elect, who was Al Gore's VP candidate also. Lieberman is an Orthodox Jew, reform democrat, with a very integretis background. He was pro-Choice however, and the Republican party had a fit.
In regards to Lieberman's stance on abortion, McCain said, "Let us not make a big election about small things. We should consider someone who is Pro-
Choice."
Most political analysts I know agree that had McCain chosen Lieberman, there would have been a more equal battle. McCain picked Palin because she was a young, attractive, spunky, pro-life, gun toting female. He thought he would play into the image his party was demanding, and forget ideals. And so, he lost. These days people are less interested in celebrity politicians than in the past. Poor McCain. Had he brought her out in 2004, he might have won against Bush.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
Yeah, I'm familiar with Liberman...I had the unfortunate honor of living in his state for two years. : P
I'm aware that McCain was pro-choice (he was ok with ESCR), and I the only reason I gave him a second thought was because of Palin (Palin '12!). However, when faced with McCain and Obama, I feel as though McCain is the lesser of the two evils, so I supported him over Obama. Originally, I was rooting for Ron Paul and would have loved it if he'd made it.
RESPECT LIFE
http://progressiveu.org/blog/respectlife
"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
Seriously? hmm. okay.
"No, not rich. I am a poor man with money, which is not the same thing."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Love in the Time of Cholera Fudge "It's the hard-knock life..."
I hope she runs, because I think it'd be awesome. : ) Of course, if Ron Paul runs (which I am sadly in doubt of : ( ), then it'll be a tough pick between the two for me...
RESPECT LIFE
http://progressiveu.org/blog/respectlife
"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
How can you compare Ron Paul and Sarah Palin, this is a disrespect to Ron Paul and an atrocity that should not be commited. lol, don't mind, we all have our own views, I believe Ron Paul is on a higher level as being a qualified candidate for presidency.
If you want to argue more, just please don't, I have to go to the bank and other stuff so I will not be able to reply plus, lets not argue over Palin until '12
"No, not rich. I am a poor man with money, which is not the same thing."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Love in the Time of Cholera Fudge "It's the hard-knock life..."
Well, I agree...he's definitely a more knowledgeable candidate...IMHO, he should be in the White House right now *sad sigh*. But I do like Palin, too.
I'm not arguing O:-) (we really need an angel smiley)
RESPECT LIFE
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
I would put them as equals but that's just me :tongue:
lol
"No, not rich. I am a poor man with money, which is not the same thing."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Love in the Time of Cholera Fudge "It's the hard-knock life..."
Oooh, now I'm wounded! I'd have to say that comparing Obama to Ron Paul is an insult for him. : P Oh well...comparing Ron Paul to Chuck Norris would probably be an insult to Ron Paul, cause he's that awesome. 8)
RESPECT LIFE
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
j/k but that's our own individual conclusions, Obama is hope for me :)
"No, not rich. I am a poor man with money, which is not the same thing."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Love in the Time of Cholera Fudge "It's the hard-knock life..."
Hehe, I'm not huge in the whole Chuck Norris thing either, but it's fun to pull out sometimes. : )
RESPECT LIFE
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"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
Then I heard about a Confederate journal he authored and several speeches he made in the South with heavy racist connotations.
I completely agree with his ideas of going back to the gold standard though.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
Yeah, I heard some kind of rumor about him being racist, too, but IDK what to believe. *shrug*
I loved a lot of his ideas...he's just incredible. It made me sooooo sad that he didn't win. :(
RESPECT LIFE
http://progressiveu.org/blog/respectlife
"It is poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
~Mother Teresa
you are sad that he did not win, was the rumor of him being racist or having said racist stuff, so inconsequential?
I am not hating or upset, I just wonder if you don't know this then how can you be so steadfast in your faith and support of him.
"No, not rich. I am a poor man with money, which is not the same thing."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Love in the Time of Cholera Fudge "It's the hard-knock life..."
I like Obama, and he totally deserves the position.
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It always seems impossible until it is done-Nelson Mandela.
How does he DESERVE the position?
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
You bring up an interesting issue. We are all familiar with peer pressure and our teachers seek to prepare us for/against such a phenomenon. But we rarely think of things like race pressure or family pressure and almost never apply it to our political values.
I am glad that this person you speak of did not succumb to the pressures of his close ones to vote for someone who did not go along with his beliefs. I am glad he looked at the facts and examined ulterior motives within himself and voted for the best choice. It is, however, unfortunate that he has to hide his convictions now to prevent repercussions. I think this may contribute further to the pending disillusionment the people will have at this ground breaking record they helped break and the situations and struggles it may lead to.
Love is like a box of chocolates; if you chose wisely you won’t be disappointed and have to spit it out. ~T
for things we believe in and he is seems sincere to us, Bush won in 2004 by WAY less than 10 million votes and he called his win a mandate and we can not do the same for Obama?
More people voted in this election because more people actually care, they see what direction this country was going in and they want the world to know that we are not asleep and we will get back on track.
Obama is the one to do this, this is what people, who voted for him such as me, think.
I feel bad that your coworker has to lie but there are MANY people who voted for someone else JUST BECAUSE Obama is black.
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
Get back on track? What track do you think we were on? How is government ran health care going to do that? How is higher taxes going to do this? How is paying someone not to work going to do this? How is punishing success going to do this? I feel sorry for my co-worker too. No one should every feel the need to hide who they voted for no matter who it is
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
You have to admit that our different life expereinces and perspectives grant us a different outlook on things and this is one of those things that I doubt you will be able to understand because you have not lived my life and don't know why I think a certain way about things such as my choice and vote for the president,
Now you started a list of questions you probably want me to answer, before I do that.
I have one question which I would like to ask...
Would ANYTHING I say, if it is really a great and superb logic and reasoning, make you change your opinion?
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
Not really I may not change your mind. In my opinion Obama stands for everything I am against. I would like to know your personal reason for voting for him so I can know where you are coming from as long as you do not say because he is for change and that is what i want. Please tell me I promise not to yell or belittle you in anyway.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
:huh: I will comment, you must have been waiting I had things to exchange at the mall (wrong sizes)
I promised myself and you guys that I would come back and write down my reasons for why I voted for Obama but Turtlesuds did a much better job than I can do but if there are some burning questions that you want me to answer that have not already been covered by tsuds, I will do it.
On the whole I agree with the points she made and I did not choose Obama because he's young and he's black or that he's smart or went to harvard and ahs written books, none of that factored into the biggest decision which is that, is he the man who can do the job and make sure that America and Americans lives upto it's fullest potential.
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
I really would like to know the answers to those questions from you. I think it would give me a greater understanding of what people were thinking. The best I have gotten from any pro-Obama people are some platitude involving some vague change. SO basically I would really like to know your reasonings.
I have the greatest respect for you and any information you have would be light shed.
Love is like a box of chocolates; if you chose wisely you won’t be disappointed and have to spit it out. ~T
his understanding that things can't keep going the way they have been. I think he has the ingenuity to break away from party dogma and truly problem solve.
His policies on terrorism are big for me. His policy on illegal immigration is another. His understanding of the need to help citizens shift into more energy conscious lines of work. His policies on education reform, and green energy.
He wants to improve veterans benefits. He is not opposed to diplomatic discussions with foreign leaders of countries we are in conflict with.
Those are just a few. You can look at his campaign website. He lists all the issues and explains his policies. You can see for yourself:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
It really bugged me when people would accuse him of not having plans or strategies. Those were people who relied on KFI radio for thier information, or Hillary Clinton.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
Also the last president that I think was mandated by the people was Reagan http://www.fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/U.S._presidential_election,_198...
http://www.fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/U.S._presidential_election,_198...
The people truly spoke in that election and made themselves heard.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
I'm going to come right out and say I didn't vote for Obama.
I'm afraid to tell people I didn't when they ask who I voted for.
I don't lie and say I voted for him, but I still understand that people are afraid to say what they really believe. Because I am sometimes.
Sometimes I feel like just say something else especially when I am with my kids at the store, where I heard my all time favorite saying ("I hope Obama makes you a slave"), But I still tell the truth and I do not care if it upsets people.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
"I hope Obama makes you a slave"
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
I was mad about that comment as well. I had to bite my tongue because of my kids being around. I think the shock of it has worn off but the shear annoyance pissed me off.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
You know most people just type their entire comment in the body area and the subject line automatically fills in with the first part of their response, so I get use to just reading the body and basically ignoring the subject bar...with that in mind your comment seemed crazy rude and out of character...then I remembered to read the subject line...
:-))
That statement makes me so mad and also leads me to believe that Obama supports secretly know what he wants to do. It really is unerving. If under his term anybody is made a slave I think it will be all that is effected, not one particular group.
This entire thing really has been nerve racking.
Love is like a box of chocolates; if you chose wisely you won’t be disappointed and have to spit it out. ~T
well, that is one of my problem with people who do not support, and don't believe in Obama. I am okay with them not supporting BUT.....
Why do you have to think that there is a secret agenda other than to just make sure America remians the greatest power of good and inspiration for everyone else?
I am sorry, I feel that this is the fight that I have to fight, because it does not make sense to me that each one of us has no faith in the other person. I understand history has not been pretty but that is the past, LEARN from it, so that we don't make the same mistakes.
Lets move towards some actions that actually show that we are not a country of useless bloodshedding wars and just rhetoric that preaches "liberation and freedom."
These thoughts of mine are not vague, these occupy my mind, body and soul, talk is cheap but I will stand up for what I believe in, regardless of what I have to hear from others and truthfully, I am open to all kinds of civilized and respectful discussion.
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
Do you think Obama is seeking revenge for all the wrongs done by white people? Don't worry, no one's gonna be made a slave. If none of the white presidents after Lincoln made blacks slaves again, it's not likely that Obama will make you a slave, especially considering that the country it at least 75% white.
I can't remember an election in my lifetime which offered two such pathetic candidates.
I voted for Chuck Baldwin of the Contstitution Party.
They were both really bad I hope the next election offer us better choices.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
I voted for him because I bothered to read every single one of his policies on his campaign website and agreed with every single one.
I thought about voting for McCain until he grabbed a bitch lap-dag who would ensure him that he could do whatever the f*** he wanted to do and not have to deal with a V.P. who knew about things other than hockey and that Russia is her responsibility because she can see it from her front yard.
BTW, I use the word bitch in its literal sense, in that the lap dog is a she. Pleas do not give me a TOS violation.
When McCain pulled that crap he showed me that his interest was not in what is best for the country but what was best for him.
I am so sick of hearing people complaining about taxes.
OBAMA IS NOT RAISING TAXES!
He is lowering taxes for everyone who NETS less than $150,000/yr and every family who nets less than $200,000/yr. And for those who make more he is increasing the tax rate between 2 and 5%. This is not a large increase.
To net less than 150,000 a year as a small business owner means you actually made something like $500,000.
If you want to see the war go on forever, I understand why you would not vote for Obama.
If you are hard-core pro-life, I can see why you would not vote for Obama.
Other than that its all a bunch of recycled rhetoric crap that you heard your parents and grandparents say about Clinton, Kerry and Gore., about socialism and taxes.
Oh yeah, and too bad Reagan and Nixon aren't still around.
One thing I do know, he has the greatest challenge of any president yet on his plate. He has a lot to prove. The burden is heavy. I hope he can bear it and keep his integrity intact.
Whether you like it or not he is our next president. We should all praying for him and our country. This is a loaded chess game, every move is crucial. This time the answer is something that hasn't been done before. Let's hope he finds it.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
I knew I would end up getting pulled into this one sooner or later.
"If you want to see the war go on forever, I understand why you would not vote for Obama." Come on already. What kind of statement is this? I personally can not stand any of Obama's policies. I think he is woefully ignorant of foreign policies and lacks any clear understanding of the horrors of man. With all of that being said, I think he will do the very best job he can, just as McCain would have. They just have different ideas on the direction the country should head in. However, even with that, Obama has recanted on his pull us out NOW mantra. Even he realizes that the war will continue, because to pull us out would destabilize the entire region.
My point is no one wants to see the war go on forever. Do you honestly not think that President Bush is haunted by the death of every single US Soldier? Right or wrong, he is responsible, and I think he is well aware of this fact, just as Clinton was (and I think he was a buffoon as well) for the death of the 18 rangers in Somalia.
I don't want the war to go on forever. In fact, I would be willing to stake quite a bit that my personal views on this are MUCH stronger than yours. However, I still would never vote for Obama. Oh yeah, you missed one:
If you are a capitalist who believes in individual responsibility and accountability and does not think that the government knows better than we the people, I can see why you would not vote for Obama.
And for the record, I voted for Chuck Norris!
I really thought I liked this quote from you "If you are a capitalist who believes in individual responsibility and accountability and does not think that the government knows better than we the people, I can see why you would not vote for Obama."
Chuck Norris was on your ballot? Like THE Chuck Norris? WHich state did your ballot come from...maybe I will switch my residency.
OH I have one more question from you that depends if you are still AD ...I think you are... Will you have to watch what you say here (or have said here) against President Elect Obama once he is inaugurated?
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Yes I do know that, I had not put the connection between who he voted for and the ability to write in names. ;) It just struck me as random and I was wondering if Chuck was a write in or had really been nominated.
Love is like a box of chocolates; if you chose wisely you won’t be disappointed and have to spit it out. ~T
I do not have a problem with anyone who holds a different opinion than mine, as long as that opinion is not founded in ignorance.
I am happy to find people who disagree and have reason to back themselves up with. It is people like this (like you) that I can engage in discourse and possibly progress with. Sadly I have not met a single person who has given me a rational argument against Obama that wasn't also false. I did see Ralph Nader speak on CNN in adamant opposition to a lot of what Obama proposes, and I found it interesting. I was too busy to follow up, but I still felt Obama was the best choice. I am sure he can be criticized, and he should be. We should him to the highest possible standard.
So my soldier friend, in Afghanistan, I would be greatly endebted if you would care to share your perception of what is, why it is, and how we might change it? I really do value your service, and your opinion.
You said, "However, even with that, Obama has recanted on his pull us out NOW mantra. Even he realizes that the war will continue, because to pull us out would destabilize the entire region."
I have been following the campaign from the beginning and Obama's plan was never to pull out NOW, it has been to pull out over the next 16 months, an equal # of troops each month.
Obama is not against war. He is willing to stand up to Afghanistan.
You said, "he is woefully ignorant of foreign policies and lacks any clear understanding of the horrors of man,"
I say, what foreign policies is he ignorant of that you would wish to enlighten him on? Like I said, it is out in our hands now. Our job is to start problem solving as citizens, and to grow as a nation, not a government. I think Obama gets that.
I agree that McCain would have done his best, and I believe he is a good man. I just think he still plays by the old rules, and he is willing to take chances that exceed the appropriate level of risk that is called for.
If president Bush is haunted by every death of every American soldier that died under his administration, he should be.
He is not an evil man, just a stupid and arrogant one. He is shitting his pants hoping to God that the future will prove him right. His unwillingness and fear to admit to being wrong outweighed his concern for America and her soldiers.
I also agree that Clinton is a buffoon. I hated him the most. Bush caused more damage but Clinton is a sociopath. We are only lucky he was a Liberal sociopath, more interested in pussy and campaign finance poker games in the Whitehouse than in avenging America.
If your views are much more stronger than mine, I can perhaps be persuaded, provided they are not too narrow.
In response to:
"If you are a capitalist who believes in individual responsibility and accountability and does not think that the government knows better than we the people, I can see why you would not vote for Obama."
I say, provided you are an individualist, concerned only about you and yours, who doesn't mind buying the illusion of a capitalistic democracy, all the while told you are free, and are willing to sit back and leave the power of your future in the hands of your government; so long as you don't ever have to be bothered by the truth and all the work that you would have to do while working with your fellow Americans, I can see why you would not vote for Obama.
It is much easier to be taken by surprise when the sky falls than it is to learn how to work to keep it up.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
Where to begin. First off this is not an attack against you or what you believe. Obama will raise ours taxes by letting the Bush tax cuts expire this will raise ours taxes. Also Palin was a great choice for VP she is loved by conservatives Micheal Reagan had said that she reminds him of his father (Ronald Reagan). Also I would like to know if you think that Sarah had actually said I can see Russia from my House because she never did that was solely SNL. McCain biggest mistake was hiding her from people she openly has different opinions then McCain on many issues.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
She was a great choice because conservatives loved her? So this really is a popularity contest. Also, a commentator said that Russia comment. HE said, "you know she's right up there with Russia." It was someone on FOX "news" That's why Tina Fey said that on SNL.
My Question about Russia still stand Sarah never said it. I would just like to know if Turtlesuds thinks that Sarah said it.
Also conservatives loved her because she was a conservative.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
because she handed the election to Obama. Go Sarah!
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
was in response to a question Katie Couric, a Republican news personality on FOX TV, which is owned by the Republicans.
The question was about Palin's foreign policy experience. Sarah said that she was very experienced with foreign policy because Alaska is next to Russia. Katie was sarcastically shocked, and Palin said something about how she could see it from her yard. Katie said she could hardly see how that made Palin experienced with foreign policy, and Sarah answered that Russians travel into America through Alaska, and came through her airports, so national security depends on her.
McCain's biggest mistake was hiring her off the cuff without knowing anything other than a quick profile drawn up by his campaign. Karl Rove is the one who wrote her acceptance speech that everyone loved so much. He was Bush's campaign adviser. If you don't know him, check him out. He is the Houdini of campaigning, a master at smoke and mirrors.
Her opinions that differ with McCain did not become known to anyone until they started losing in states on their campaign trail they thought were theirs from the beginning, which were, but switched after seeing and hearing them live.
Palin didn't know many of McCain's policies which became very clear in her debate with Biden. I clearly recall her saying in answer to questions about "What does John McCain want to do?," "Well, I'll have to get back to you on that, but I can say that John McCain is about doing what is right for the American people."
Not only that, she couldn't get off the script Rove wrote for her. Whenever asked about anything, especially foreign policy, she pulled a big fat giant red herring and said, "I don't want to talk about that, I want to go back to taxes, because you know, that is what the American people want to know about."
She made up her opinions as she went, and she contradicted herself many times over. One of my favorites, "I don't believe in global warming and I don't believe that we humans impact the environment, but I do believe we need to fight for cleaner, more efficient energy."
***WTF?***
Or how about saying that if she had to serve as president, in regards to the war in Iraq she would trust the generals on the ground to tell her what needed to be done?
In response to questions about why we should keep fighting in Iraq she repeats, "We cannot second guess Israel." more than 3 times.
I admit I am not so invested in my argument as to provide links and direct quotes, but i would hope that as a socially responsible human you would simply look at her acceptance speech and interview with Joe Biden on You Tube. You really don't have to go any deeper than that. If you still disagree, all the better. I want to dialogue with you.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
Okay the first mention of Palin talking about Russia was in the Gibson interview. Were she said that you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska. Then she talked about how Russia has violated American air space and that would be in Alaska. In the Katie Couric interview she defended her statement and also explains how Alaska has trade agreements with Russia and she mentioned the fact that Alaska in next to two countries Russia and Canada and then she talks about that. She never said her "front yard". Thank you for replying and I look forward to more dialogue with you as well.
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
in that pretty little head of hers. Tell me more about the trade agreements between Alaska and Russia and Palin's involvement.
She might not be as stupid as she looked. It might not be her fault that she looked so stupid. Maybe she just was really unprepared, as would be expected with the short notice she was given.
Perhaps Karl Rove set her up by writing bad debate scripts for her, and had she winged it she would have nailed it. Maybe he secretly wanted Obama to win.
Gee, lesson learned for America, presidential campaigns are not the appropriate platforms for experimentation. Hey, if Palin does get her sh.. together it will be fun watching her run in 2012. If not, I'm gonna have a lot more fun :rofl: I did that a lot this campaign.
BTW, I doubt you voted for me, but my presidential platform I wrote for ProU was something I pulled out of my ass at the last minute. I didn't think I was qualified and thought my entry would be a joke. Not to brag, but I do think I did better than she did, and I'm not even a governor, yet.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
She has some amount of foreign knowledge that steams from being in Alaska at the Eighth Conference of Parliamentarians of the Arctic Region. It was held in Alaska it is not much, as someone that has been a senator for 20 years but it is a lot. Here are two links about Palin and the conference. I hope that you will really look into to her I would never ask someone to blindly vote for someone always check.
http://gov.state.ak.us/newsletter/PAF_August2008.php
http://www.arcticparl.org/conferences.aspx?id=2973
Here is a link to a trade agreement. It is an airport that the approval for had to go though Palin’s office. So she had to sign it. http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-23761.html
The reason that she may not have been then personally is because she may have been on maternity leave Woman in government positions normally get 6 to 8 weeks.
Thank you for your interest in her and your willingness to look past the superficial. Have a great Christmas and a happy New Year
"Something given has no value"~Robert Heinlein
"Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is." Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richards Almanack, 1749
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
Colin Powell has been revered by both parties.
I just have to say, watching this reminded me of my father. My father, being a white, all-American raised and beaten by an all-American dad, who served and suffered in Vietnam, has always loved Colin Powell.
In response to a question he pretended was asked of him, "You won't vote for Obama because he is black, isn't that right?" He answered me (who never asked the question, but didn't object when he projected it onto me) "If it was Colin Powell running, I would vote for him in a heartbeat!"
A few weeks later Colin Powell publicly announces support of Obama. I asked my father how he felt about that. His answer: "Those fuckin' niggers always stick together, don't they!"
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude
It's all right, one step at a time. We can not ask some people to take these leaps of faith or hope that we have taken just because we see the light and right at the end of what seems to us like a dark tunnel.
They have to want it themselves and be clear of heart and mind so that they can be led in the right direction, until then, we can only pray and hope for the best for all.
"No, not rich. I am a poor man with money, which is not the same thing."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Love in the Time of Cholera Fudge "It's the hard-knock life..."
It has been quite a while since most Republicans who pay any attention had any respect for Colin Powell.
He allowed Scooter Libby to get raked over the coals by Patrick Fitzgerald in the Plamegate investigation when he could have stopped the whole circus with one sentence. Colin Powell admitted that he knew all along that his employee, Richard Armitage had been responsible for the leak of Valarie Plame's identity as a CIA Agent.
Yet he let the investigation go on for months at enormous cost to taxpayers and at great cost to the reputations of numerous public servants, some decent and maybe some that were not.
Powell is scum. The man has no honor and that is not something I say about military people very often.
One of my friend's mom loves to ask me every time I'm over why I voted for McCain. I actually used to find it harder to justify myself than I do now. Looking at McCain in the media now, he's back to his old self- a bipartisan, friendly, and sensible guy. This backs up my argument that McCain would have been a great president, he just ran a terrible (and way too negative) campaign.
something quite comprehensive thing and the kind of campaign he ran, gave people the idea he will not be able to run the country.
This great sensible guy should not have been pressured into running such a terrible and negative campaign. I don't not like McCain as a person and senator, I just like Obama a lot more, especially as a president.
"A person doesn't die when he should but when he can." - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude Fudge"It's the hard-knock life..."
McCain all by his lonesome little self is a wonderful man. I voted for him in 2004. I appreciate his service to our country. My father is a Vietnam veteran with a purple heart and a silver star. My grandfather is a Colonel who served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. I have been to several funerals this year for men who have served in combat.
Had he remained steadfast in his principles, rather than jumped on a limb to gain popularity, I would have voted for him.
"Consistency is not a human trait" - Maude, from Harold and Maude