5 freaking days ~~ o.m.g.

blog_princess09's picture

Hey Everyone,

I'm not posting this to get into any type of debates, or anything, this is simply something I feel very very very very strongly about.
I'll keep this short and sweet.

Regarding the 2008 Presidential Election:

This is our chance to change the world.
Please, no matter which side you're on:
take time to do your research on this election,
get informed about the candidates,
don't listen to anyone else to help you decide,
it's YOUR decision, don't be afraid to make it,
if you're of age, get registered,
and on November 4th, do your part in making a very big decision,
not just for our country
But the world

The Election Day is only 5 days away and anticipation is building. Hehe I’m so excited. But at the same time, I’m so so scared. Where is our country going? What will happen if one or the other wins? If McCain gets the win, then will he kick the bucket as soon as he’s inaugurated? What if he chooses to continue the same Bush administration policies, being republican and all? And what if Obama wins? It’s scary to think that he would be assassinated just because of the mud-slinging that goes around at election time. I’m just scared. Anyone else feel that way?

A Certain Saint's picture

You must, in most states, be registered to vote 30 or more days prior to a general election.

Obama would be assassinated - I believe in the South to do what the South has historically done. Do you honestly think that this nation - the nation that instituted the One-Drop Rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule) - will stand for a Black President? If you do, you're kidding yourself.

On the same note, I don't think it will be any better should McCain be elected. American's-without-a-melanin-deficieny (they're not African-Americans unless THEY were born in Africa and Black is a shitty term: their skin is browner than it is black) would riot in the streets. The ACLU, NAACP, etc. would scream racism and recount the votes until they were blue in the face.

I do not think that McCain's health is an issue - look at Chaney. He's at least a Trillion years old and he's still kicking. We all said, 'Oh, Chaney isn't going to make it through the next 8 years, let alone the next 4.' He showed us - McCain seems like he'd be one to do the same.

He does, actually, differ with Bush on a few key issues, so it wouldn't be like having another President Bush. And the comment "being republican and all" is like saying that since you're an American you must think the exact way that all other Americans think. I bet you don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster - I do.

Also, look at Congress. This Congress is controlled by the Democrats - and it's done less than the famous Do-Nothing Congress. Well, the Do-Nothing-est Congress is up for re-/election. Change it up.

Also, anyone that hits the "Vote Party" button should be put to death. Just a personal opinion there.

-acertainsaint-

blog_princess09's picture

yeah you have a few really good points in there. It's going to be a scary election no matter which way the votes turn out. What i meant by the republican remark was only that parties tend to have the same views and solutions to problems. And even if McCain says that he doesn't agree with the party, then it's up to your own opinion to decide if he's campaigning and only saying what people want to hear, or if he trully does believe in views that differ from the republican party.

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Minnesota is one. New Hampshire is another. Check with your secretary of state's office to find out if your state allows it. The Secretary of State website should answer many frequently asked questions about voting rights.

"Never go with a hippy to a second location."
~Jack Donaghy
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_Meke's picture
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"A Certain Saint" wrote:

American's-without-a-melanin-deficieny (they're not African-Americans unless THEY were born in Africa and Black is a shitty term: their skin is browner than it is black) would riot in the streets.

WHAT?! We're not a bunch of untrained monkeys, we know how to be civilized even in the face of great disappointment.

"A Certain Saint" wrote:

And the comment "being republican and all" is like saying that since you're an American you must think the exact way that all other Americans think.

Sort of like you implied that all Americans-without-melanin-deficiency are the same?

blog_princess09's picture

sometimes people get scared of possible outcomes concerning where our government and society is going. I understand this fear, but I think that all these opinionated fears cannot be justified by extreme disagreement and argument. Maybe it would be better if we all just waited it out to see where this election is going to take us?

A Certain Saint's picture

Look at what happens when an American-without-a-melanin-deficency gets shot by a white cop, regardless of the circumstances.

I would put the safe money, regardless of my personal views of Americans-without-melanin-deficencies are. I have nothing against them, but I look at what has been, and I make educated estimates of the future.

Now - this isn't to say that all would riot in the streets. Just like I think a good handful of women are voting along the "fun pouch" theory (see Jon Stewart's interview with his feminist investigator), I don't think ALL will. I actually think that most will vote because they know something. But there is that faction that isn't so bright.

Also, _Meke, I know that all Americans will not be rioting in the streets because of an outcome in one way or the other.

Don't make me out as more racist than I am. :-P

-acertainsaint-

A Certain Saint's picture

Ok - the :-P makes me seem like a horrible person. Why can't it just be a light-hearted dude sticking out his tongue making light of serious issues!?

-acertainsaint-

_Meke's picture
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I don't think you're a horrible person, you just need to think about what you "say" before you say it.

"A Certain Saint wrote:

Why can't it just be a light-hearted dude sticking out his tongue making light of serious issues!?

because people get mad when others suggest that they can't control themselves. No one likes to be reduced to a stereotyped. And people ESPECIALLY hate it when someone says something offensive and then tries to laugh it away (like with your smiley)

_Meke's picture
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"A Certain Saint wrote:

Look at what happens when an American-without-a-melanin-deficiency gets shot by a white cop, regardless of the circumstances.

You're confusing rioting with protest. And why shouldn't blacks be mad when that happens? Blacks are often unfairly targeted by the police, that makes people mad. The only riot i can think of is related to Rodney King (which was the culmination of a lot of things in LA). This is only one example, so please explain to me how blacks riot every time one of us gets shot. And what do you mean by "regardless of the circumstances"? Are you suggesting that we can't tell the difference between when a cop is using self-defense and when a cop is just trigger happy?

"A Certain Saint" wrote:

Don't make me out as more racist than I am.

I don't have to make you out to be racist. Your words speak for you.

If you don't think all or most blacks (or women) are like this, why did you make that sweeping generalization? It seems like you're just trying to change what you actually wrote in your first post.

A Certain Saint's picture

While, yes, I make sweeping generalizations, I don't generally mean *all.* If you knew me, and I think you should, you'd know that I am a racist. I mean, I really do judge people based on their race. The problem being, I have had lots of bad experiences with Americans with Melanin. So, I am quick to make broad generalizations about AwMs because experience has taught me that they tend to act within certain parameters.

I believe that America is highly racist. I'm racist because I won't vote for Obama. I'm racist because I don't believe that people should be called African-American unless they were born in Africa. I'm racist because I think that if people live in a nation where people speak one language, the people who move to the nation, or visit the nation, should speak the native language. I'm racist because I believe that fearing a word gives it more power than allowing it to be over used and de-strengthened (I lost my train of thought - got a better word?). I'm racist because I believe that all people should be judged simply on their level of intelligence.

Look at the recent incident on my campus. An effigy of Obama was hung in the tree. Supposedly it was done in reaction to the Palin effigy in Californa. Whether it was racially motivated or not, you can't find an image of it online. Our Dean reached out to publicly appologize to Obama and his wife. The new stations had 24/7 coverage on it. Did they make a big deal of the Palin effigy? No. Why? Because Obama-in-a-tree makes everyone say, and this is the only reason why it got this kind of media attention, "The University of Kentucky lynched Obama." Let's not talk about how the idiots in California hung Palin from their roof. Or how they built a chimney on their roof and had a McCain effigy stuffed in it with flames shooting up. Let's not talk about how those stories got less than a day of coverage and were forgotten. But let's not forget about how there was an effigy of Obama in a tree for less than 4 hours.

I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from when I do make sweeping statements - this nation is racist and we know it. And so long as the ACLU and NAACP make a fuss everytime anything mildly or remotely racist happens, we're going to remain unequal. Where's the NAAWP? Also, have you ever noticed how the NAACP tends to stay out of issues that don't directly concern AwMs?

Then let's look at the 2001 Cincinnati Riots! A brown man was shot by a white cop. While the shotting was not entirely justified (Thomas had 59 outstanding charges, most of which were nonviolent, but the cruiser didn't give the nature of the previous charges. He also lowered his arms to his pants line when the officer shouted at him. The officer shot Thomas as he felt that his life was in danger as he only knew that Thomas was a criminal reaching for his beltline), even you can agree that some of the insanity that insued was out of control and was percipitated by AwMs because Thomas was black and if a white cop dares shoot a white cop, well, god forbid.

"[Cincinnati's] downtown and surrounding suburbs overrun by black demonstrators targeting innocent white bystanders and businesses. Roving thugs have looted dozens of white-owned shops, burned down several buildings, and vandalized police precincts and firestations. City Hall, which had 28 windows smashed to bits on Monday night, is under lockdown. So is the Cincinnati police headquarters, where an American flag was pulled down from its flagpole and hung upside down." Is this justified because a AwM was shot by a cop who was a bit of an idiot?

Now, while I don't deny that AwoMs are idiots who fear AwMs who do nothing to provoke the AwoMs, I also can't deny that sometimes, it just goes too far. Tit for tat isn't the way to play the game. I'd point out a couple of other examples where the AwM community rose up and did something worse than the AwoMs who initiated the problem, but I'm tired.

I apologize for making the sweeping statements, but I stand by an edited version of the statements.

"If McCain is elected, a portion of the AwM community will riot for no other reason than 'Obama was robbed cause America is racist.'"

I also would like to apologize to women - but the fact of the matter remains that I've met enough of the "I'm voting for Estrogen!" type to unfortunately find it to be a decent portion of the people in my area.

Can you forgive me, Ms. _Meke? You know I'm not nearly as racist as I might sound.

-acertainsaint-

_Meke's picture
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"A Certain Saint wrote:

If you knew me, and I think you should

I'll pass

"A Certain Saint wrote:

you'd know that I am a racist

That's fairly obvious

You might not be as racist as you sound, but you are certainly ignorant. I've met many people like you in life who try to justify racism any way they can. Usually they justify racism because it is easier than just admitting they are wrong. If I use your logic, I should also be racist because I've encountered so many White people who have done so many fucked up things to so many other races of people. But unlike you, I know not to judge one person by the actions of another who happens to have the same skin color.

"A Certain Saint wrote:

If McCain is elected, a portion of the AwM community will riot for no other reason than 'Obama was robbed cause America is racist.

Nice save, I guess. I disagree that they will riot. Certainly people will be disappointed and think that it was racism. But I believe even more Whites will feel this way. After all, most of the people voting for/in love with Obama are White.

I agree that the Cincinatti incident was also too much, although it was understandable. That kind of thing happens to blacks often, and people's feelings often erupt when they are pushed to the limit. Innocent people being killed by Police officers is not comparable to your candidate losing the election.

Your comment about the ACLU and NAACP are just stupid. You are basically saying that complaining about racism perpetuates it. How in hell do you think people people solve problems if they don't even acknowledge one exists? You cannot simply ignore something away.

About the Obama/Palin effigies
Who controls the media? Not blacks but Whites. So your anger should be directed toward your fellow white people, they choose to emphasize one story over another. You cannot blame Black people because White owned media outlets choose to cover the Obama effigy more than the Palin.

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