I'm really getting tired of having to fight for what i believe in. This is supposed to be a free country, right? Then why am I beating off every evangelist and christian with a metal pole. In the film Jesus Camp ( a documentary) it shows that because of our president, there was leeway given to christians to throw bibles down our throats(not literally, but they might as well). What ever happened to separation between church and state, to be honest, there is no clear line anymore, thanks to Tim Lahaye(creator of the left behind series) and the leaders of the Counsil for National Policy. Evangelist have made their way into our government, and want to bring back theocracy, WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FREEDOM!!!????? I personally, do not believe in god, why should i have to be punished for breaking one of the ten commandments, this is ridiculous, i see people driving around in their cars with pro-life, and save our priests stickers on their cars and it makes me nauseated. Your priests are the ones molesting our children, and you don't see me slapping on kill baby stickers on my rearview windshield. The Christians are yelling, better yet their screaming for change, a change that's not meant for everyone. Quite honestly, i'm terrified to wake up and discover that i have to have the child that's in my stomach because someone is making me, talk about having problems explaining why you gave your children away while you were young. I'm not saying abortion is completely right, but it is a woman's choice to do what she will with her body, YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEONE HAVE CHILDREN. How is that fair? How could you put someone through something they don't want to do. We don't go out and protest every pregnant teenage christian for having their babies, it's called a choice, rights if you will, freedom. Were not making people have abortions, just as they shouldn't force us to have them. This is my whole point here, that is why we live in the United States, because we have a choice, or so i thought. People in the Counsil for National Policy want to strip our rights from us, because their so gullible and horribly terrified that were looking at the armegeddon that they feel like everyone needs to be born-again. TIM LAHAYE CALLED THE POPE THE ANTICHRIST AND SAID THAT ROMAN CATHOLISM IS A FALSE RELIGION!! MY FAMILY IS ROMAN CATHOLIC!!!! YOUR RELIGION WAS BASED OFF OF MINE!!!! See that's what i don't understand, everything was stemmed from Roman Catholisim, how can you say it's a false religion if it came from the religion that your putting down. , i'm going to continue this at a later date
Jesus Camp
By Britslikepi - Posted on October 14th, 2008
Tagged: abortion
• athetism
• conspiracy
• evangelism
• Effective government
• Personal freedom
• Better future
Through the bumper stickers, Christians are simply exercising their freedom of speech. I've seen multiple Wicken and other non-Christian bumper stickers, as well. Also, Christians are not the only vocal group. The homosexuals, for example, are extremely vocal in trying to shove their point of view down your throat. It's like you have to wholeheartedly accept them, even if that goes against your moral beliefs. It's sickening. As a Christian (Catholic), I don't mind the Christian propaganda. It might annoy a non-Christian just like gay propaganda annoys me. However, it's all still there and it's just people exercising their freedom of speech and opinions on moral issues. America's tolerant of everyone and that makes everyone and no one happy.
RESPECT LIFE
http://progressiveu.org/blog/respectlife
Too understand, not even that deep inside the conditioned minds of worshippers, they all wish to eradicate and wipe out any individuals which doesn’t match their narrow mined hypocritical profile.
To live a dictated live while steering up trauma in the lives of those who don’t follow imposed morals is really something to be proud of!
Wholeheartedly eeeeuwww...
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I agree...it's not like it's just Christians out there trying to get people to believe in God; it's everyone. We're a nation of free speech and car salesmen. You gotta take the good with the bad...free speech=good, forced to hear stuff you don't want to/don't believe in=too damn bad.
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To acknowledge homosexuals are here to stay, would be fine a change to see enter this world!
There seems to be something very wrong with so called moral beliefs since they are promoting nothing but hate, while deciding who is entitled to feel happy or not!
What a joke is that!
Trying to get people to stay (believe) within the herd is one thing, to tag those who don’t fit in anyhow is another very negative one!
http://www.wowzone.com/monkey.htm
I'm kind of confused why you replied to my post....I didn't say anything about homosexuals or moral beliefs...I just said that I have to hear a lot of crap about crap I don't want to hear about...be it from Christians, atheists, vegetarians, liberals, conservatives, carnivores, dinosaurs...doesn't matter...I hate it all!!!
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Pushed the wrong button,
My fault, won’t happen again!
http://www.wowzone.com/monkey.htm
you don't want to hear it and neither do we, get over it, it's politics, it's our lives, we have to do things about it if we want something done. if you don't like hearing about it don't read it.
I'm not sure why you sound so feisty. Don't get all in a tizzy over nothing; I wasn't complaining (and even if I were, you should have just not read it since you don't want to hear about it), I was stating a fact that a lot of people have to see and hear stuff that they don't agree with or care about. Stop being so quick to prove an imaginary point.
I do think it's a little hypocritical to tell me to "get over it" when it was your post in the first place complaining about Christians trying to shove Bibles down your throat. I suggest you take your own advice and get over it; "you don't want to hear it and neither do we, get over it, it's politics, it's our lives, we have to do things about it if we want something done." If you don't like hearing or reading about it, then don't listen or read it.
And thanks for that tip about not reading with my ears and listening with my eyes; I'll avoid reading about it if I don't want to hear about it from now on. =)
And Wombels, no biggie...I just got a little confuzzled! ^^
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http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/49917
"I'm kind of confused why you replied to my post....I didn't say anything about homosexuals or moral beliefs...I just said that I have to hear a lot of crap about crap I don't want to hear about...be it from Christians, atheists, vegetarians, liberals, conservatives, carnivores, dinosaurs...doesn't matter...I hate it all!!!"
that's what you said
And i'm not being hypocritical when i say get over it, I don't want to get over it, and what i meant when i had replied to your earlier post, was get over it, your going to have to hear it. I don't mind hearing it, obviously i wouldn't be on this site if i didn't i enjoy the debate.
Thank you and i'm done writing on this post for good, Going to start another this week, cya!
Im not saying that they can't have their stickers, hell plaster your car in them, I just don't want my rights taken away, no one should, morals are different for everyone, tolerance should be respected from all sides and its not, christians are trying to strip my rights and I don't respect it, not one bit, a member of my family had an abortion, she said it was the best decision she ever made, she is no longer with her abusive boyfriend and she isn't 19 with a 4 year old, she's not in a bad place in her life, life that's already been established should be respected, people who have been raped, should not have to deal with a constant reminder of the horrific crime. Homosexuals should be able to sleep with whoever they want, and the only reason u feel overwhelmed by them is that they just started coming out twenty years ago, thanks to "moral values" people should never have to hide who they are, its not a disease, its not a lifestyle choice, people can't help being gay. I feel bad cause their put into this box that their all flamboyant and have crazy wild sex, and wear glitter, but that's not the case. Their smart and great contributors to society
Well, as a Christian (Catholic), I feel like my rights are being stripped from the other end...the right to discriminate. I even wrote a note about it:
http://www.progressiveu.org/node/49085
I feel like my right to free speech is being stripped because to say anything bad against anything I believe to be immoral is jumped all over as prejudice or discrimination.
I think homosexuals would be left alone if they didn't push their agenda on people so strongly. Yay, you go do what you want and I'll think it's immoral...unless you know it's immoral, too, and that bothers you, then why should you care? Then as for the abortions, I believe that's wrong in any case, but let's not get going on that one here. So anyway...my point is that rights are being stripped from all sides, not just those who are being "pestered" or whatever by the Christians.
RESPECT LIFE
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/respectlife
You get to proselytize, I get to counter with my viewpoint. If you have a right to free speech, I have a right to free speech. You hate it when people like me jump all over you, I hate it when people like you jump all over MY RIGHTS AS A HUMAN BEING.
You can spout morality all you want. No one is trying to take that right away from you. People like you ARE trying to take away my rights to live a happy life of companionship with my family. There's a huge difference. You are complaining about the right to preach uncontested. I am complaining about the right to pursue happiness, a right you already have.
"Never go with a hippy to a second location."
~Jack Donaghy
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
How can you feel like your freedom of speech is being taken away because people are "jumping all over you", that's exactly what your doing to me. And you have a choice, you can choose to be christian, and to not have an abortion, just because your moral values are different doesn't mean that everyone should have to follow them, this is my whole point. Ultra right christians are trying to instill theocracy into our government, that's wrong, not everyone believes in god. That's not fair to force someone to believe in something. And i whole heartedly accept christians and gays, not because i have to, but because i choose to, it's called acceptance, and tolerance
"I personally, do not believe in god, why should i have to be punished for breaking one of the ten commandments." So, murdering is cool? No big deal? Stealing too? Awesome.
"Your priests are the ones molesting our children." Because someone that's not a priest has never molested a child? Ok.
You're overly concerned about nothing. They've already taken "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance. According to the Constitution, the government isn't allowed to favor one religion over any other. But, the government favors the minority anyway.
You should be more concerned with your rights/duties as a citizen of the United States that don't have to do with religion. For example, where are your tax dollars going? How much will school actually cost you? Can you talk on your cell phone without being listened to by government officials? How free is free speech? Get upset about those issues; you'll face them before you have to face a theocracy.
For the record, babies don't grow in stomachs; they grow in wombs.
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do you really think this is the only opinion i have, this is only my first blog, and if i had wrote out every possible view of mine down, it would be about 30 pages long, and i don't have the time for that. I've never seen anyone supporting the people who molest children that look like felons, if anything they gather in a big witchunt and chase every last one out of town (which i'm definently not against)but their willing to support priests who do it, how is that right? and it's a little hard not to be overly concerned with what is going on in the republican party, read up a little more. There's reason to be worried. When people want to control countries is a reason to be worried. If anything everyone is a little too laid back about the situation. People aren't informing themselves enough. And i don't lack in my information, when people like tim lahaye are whispering things in the ear of our leader, i definently have reason to fear. And i didn't say their didn't need to be laws (like you can't murder or steal) but are we seriously down with punishing someone to death for gluttony? that's a sin also, so were going to kill someone for being overweight? People like Tim Lahaye believe so, he's an ultraright christian, he thinks that people should have to be punished by death for commiting sins, how ridiculous is that. We have jail systems for that, considering their not all that well run and their more like slave prisons ( ultra right christians who also believe people who commit sins like not believing in god, should become slaves) how is this ok?
actually the scientific word is uterus, since were getting technical