Ok for starters, we have evolution and Adam and eve. Both are opposites of the other. Different theories in all reality. With that being said evolution brakes down and says that basically all life started as a single celled organism and work its way up through evolution and became the complicated life forms we have now and days. Adam and eve says that god put people on this planet and that everything just was from that point on. (I'm don't know the exact terms in which its stated, so bible bumpers don't quote me. I'm just trying to get the idea across) in terms of that those to are relatively the opposite. And contradict the other. And that makes a lot of augment. So I have thought about this some. And this is what I have come up with. They are both true.
What is the oldest form of human on this planet? Australopithecus (Lucy) but what was human before that? Where are the signs of evolution before? We know what happened after that. But what about before? What if we were put here, and left to evolve? I mean to some degree, it would make sense why we are the only species that can use its brain. And complicated tools. So think about it? Are they both trues?
The oldest fossil considered a human is Lucy. That does not mean that there aren't older fossils in the chain of evolution that led to humans.
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What about this theory.
the story of evolution follows the first 5 days of the creation story.
now for this to work say a "day" in GOD eyes is equal to like 100 million years.
so the first 5 days or 500 million years GOD created animals, other primates etc.
then on day 6 GOD refined his new primate prototype to create the homo-sapien.
that would mean that we are on day 7 when GOD rests...thus no new life being created.
This would clear up the evolution arguement since the primate did evolve into humans with GODS final revisions being the missing link.
It would also make sense that an OMNIPOTENT being would live in a different time spectrum. 1 day=100 million years (for example)
day 1 was light (the sun)
day2 was land and water(earth)
day3 the first lifelike animals (dinosaurs)
day4 warm blooded animals (mamals)
day5 primates
day6 Homo-sapiens
A few little problems...
Day 1, god creates light and separates it from darkness. Day 4, Sun, moon, stars.
This dating, besides the obvious problem, is inconsistent with the current theory regarding the origin of our Solar System.
The Sun would be the first thing in existence as it is today. Gas blown out condenses into gas giants. (Further matter into that Koiper Belt shit and commits and whatnot)
The inner planets and satellites and whatever start off as various cosmic debris and basically smash into each other until we have the planets we have today.
And, of course, Genesis has water existing before land, which doesn't really work because the heat of the early Earth would be way too high for water.
And, our solar system is relatively young, so plenty o' those stars would have existed even before out Sun.
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Emperor Sigismund
Actually, evolution does not contradict Adam and Eve at all, nor the Bible. For instance, you can say that God triggered and directed the events of the Big Bang and the creation of the universe, and that the first part of Genesis was more metaphorical (i.e., one day is not literally one day, the stars are older than the earth, etc). Science has actually shown that all humans are likely descended from the same woman - perhaps Eve? Perhaps Adam and Eve were the first homo-sapiens (perhaps the first people God put a soul into, or however you want to interpet it) and their Biblical story is quite accurate. Doesn't contradict evolution a bit. It's sad that so many Christians automatically disregard evolution because they think it goes against the Bible.
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exactly. basically i just expounded a bit more
We seem to agree on many things. :)
It's cause you both have asked this to a priest/reliogustfriend/parent, and there were told the same cover stories, they make up a way for it to not have holes for ppl they preside over. I know it all all too well...
You're patching up the wholes of your faith as you go because the ppl that wrote it didn't have all the answers(like they would if god gave them it) and intelligent enough being to create us wouldn't have wholes in a story like some uncommunicative crime family...
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1- don't insult people. It's against the terms of service.
2- please spell check, people tend to appreciate it.
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It is impressive how you managed to insult four people in one fell swoop--both Kiota and Mr. Warbanks quite overtly, yourself by posting such inanity with such bad spelling, and your reader, for putting us through it.
Rude.
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I know, I realize, I had the thought and was like noooooo... YES!, and the spellings not the key, I was tired at the time, so if i can be read, mission accomplished, I know this could be a problem for me but speaking in the name of comedy has always been something I cannot deny myself, and Appologize to whomever takes offence.
My bad..
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Everything, you have done, and will do, is chemically predisposed by matter, even the fact you are reading this message. You make no choices, only perceive a given reality.
if you would, think back to when Darwin was doing his research on animals all over the world. he had to think deeply weather or not to present his ideas of evolution because that would contradict the church and effect his standing in society and so forth....
point being that the evolution theory and church did not always go hand in hand.
Would you care to elaborate? I would love to read the study that concluded this.
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Perhaps a few of the collection of mutations that are shared by all humans occured independantly more than once, but it is exceedingly unlikely. It would be more correct to say we all shared a single mother many times.
A Fact is Always Better Than an Ideal.
...between suggesting that all humans share a common ancestor, and suggesting that that ancestor was actually human or if she was that she was the ONLY human female (much less that she was the FIRST human female).
I was wondering about the "Adam and Eve" reference to genetics, however, and found this interesting article...
Here is another good one: Genetic ‘Adam never met Eve’
This comment sums up the flaw I see in trying to relate our genetic ancestors to the mythological story of "Adam and Eve"...
TTFN,
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I believe as a species we are not even half way of what we are supposed to look like, this process of development is being slowed down because we fail to focus on each and every gift or talent which we all carry inside.
Everyone is full of doubt (God) and the whole structure which has been created around the many figures that represent Mr Right. With other words people are like extremely creative when it comes to keeping themselves as dumb as possible.
Regardless of all the information that is out there, people can not trigger themselves to realize they are all part of the same source, a source that is not to be found in a book, nor in a reflecting mirror image. If one would put some effort into looking inside their own minds something might present itself bringing all the questions to your answers.
There is a source that caries no evil, it has made us what we are, but who we are is something many fight to acknowledge because they don’t feel wordy enough. In fact they don’t feel anything apart from the pain and fear of not knowing what to do. While the only thing we need to do, is to let go…
The end of our evolution isn't in our appearance, its in our mind.. if the race lives long enough it will be "God", which is being all knowing, at which point we could plant seeds on other plants and we would know they are destined to become us. We could paint and create any biodome... and possibly even live forever by manipulation of time.. anyways.. not the topic..... so ya, magics not real and i'm sticken to it, adam and eve was meant to be a parable is the latest whole patching,. guess these two believers missed the boat.
Everything, you have done, and will do, is chemically predisposed by matter, even the fact you are reading this message. You make no choices, only perceive a given reality.
"The end of our evolution isn't in our appearance, its in our mind.. "
How do you know? There are plenty of physical aspects of humanity that aren't really all that great. If environmental circumstances started putting more pressure on us, we may evolve in ways that affect our appearance.
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Emperor Sigismund
Yeah, good point, males loose their hair with reason!
;'(
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I'm not saying there wouldn't be changes, Every evolution has exterior adaptations.. even in a single generation to a degree. I am saying thats not the focus, its not the important aspect of where we are(or can be) headed.
Everything, you have done, and will do, is chemically predisposed by matter, even the fact you are reading this message. You make no choices, only perceive a given reality.
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