AFTER 6 WEEKS

mwilliams27's picture
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After 6 weeks, abortion shouldn't be allowed unless extreme circumstances. Because after six weeks the embryo's heart begins to beat, making it a living being. 

I am all for a woman's right to choose, BUT I think that women/teens should be responsible in their decision making. If they're out partying and being sexually active, those women/teens should not be able to use having an abortion their contrapceptive of choice. Unless the woman/teen was raped, assaluted or lives in extreme poverty and cannot, in any way, afford to have a baby, I think that abortion should be the last resort.

I know, women/teens that have been raped/molested and having a baby would always remind them of that horrible moment in their life, but if a woman/teen is having abortion after abortion, she is not making responsible decisions and she shouldn't be allowed to have abortions.

I'm not advocating making abortion illegal, but maybe clinics can limit the number of abortions women/teens can have or maybe they can make the window in which the women/teens can have abortions smaller, so women/teens will become more responsible about their decisions to have sex and whether or not to use protection. Another way is to not give abortions just because you don't want to have the baby. They're are other alternatives to getting an abortion. Maybe abortions should only be given to those who <b><i>REALLY NEED</i></b> them instead of those who want them.

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Jsaj's picture
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I would go for more like 20 something weeks. That's when it's brain and nervous has developed to a point that I consider human.

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

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Ditto.

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missionsminded_maiden's picture
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Aren't you glad someone considered you human enough to go through with the whole process of pregnancy? Whether one day or 20 weeks, I still find an unborn child human enough not to abort him or her!!!
Bekka Joy

Jsaj's picture
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Yes, I'm glad I was born. But, if I was aborted at five weeks, or whatever, I wouldn't have known the difference. ANyway, I don't like abortions. I just don't think the government has a right to outlaw them.

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

lastnightilie's picture

I just don't think we should murder anything that was supposed to live. Seriously, I see no grey in this issue.

Jsaj's picture
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What makes you think it was suppoed to live? What if the woman died during the pregnancy? What if the baby was a misscarriage?
In that case, can you really justify any for mof birth control?

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

lastnightilie's picture

I just don't see abortion as a natural thing because it's not. Sex isn't a natural thing unless it's for reproduction, and that didn't come from any religion either. I'm an atheist and I believe that because well, I like to pay attention to nature. So if someone chooses to be irresponsible, they should live with the consequences instead of doing that. There really isn't a way to know if the woman will die or have a miscarriage, so I don't see why that even matters. Bottom line, I disagree with abortion.

Jsaj's picture
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I would like to clarify my opinion. I dissaprove of abortion unless there are extenuationg circumstances. However, I believe that the rights of a living woman are greater than the rights of a fetus.

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

missionsminded_maiden's picture
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There are a lot of "what-ifs" in that statement. I am pretty certain that you appreciate the fact that the woman who bore you did not consider all those "what-ifs" and decide to abort you.
Bekka Joy

Jsaj's picture
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It's called hypothetical. She said that the child is meant to live. I disagreed. I don't actually live by that set of rules. And I am going to stop you from using that argument against me a third time. If my mother, while preganant with me, decided to get an abortion I would say that it was her right. I don't approve of them. I don't think that it is the government's place to outlaw it.

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

mvenus929's picture
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How do you feel about picking flowers? Are you a vegetarian? I think your idea is a little too broad.

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mwilliams27's picture

People who are "vegetables" have brains that are not functioning.... are they not still human? Only thing that works is their heart.

Woman do have rights, but if women aren't responsible enough to make sound decisions, then they need to face the reprecussions of their actions, not saying that children are reprecussions, for a woman who doesn't not want to have a baby, she might consider the forthcoming little one a reprecussion.

Maryssa R. Williams

Jsaj's picture
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I also think that a person in a Vegetative State should be handled either in a way dictated in a living will or, if that is not possible, in a way decided on by relatives. I do not, however, think it is wrong to allow them to die.
The fact is that a fetus is not human. People are fond of using the slippery slope argument on the pro-life side. How about we take an opposite look. If you want to protect potential humans, what else do you do? Do you outlaw birth control? Do you outlaw sterilization? If a woman is murdered, do you charge the killer with 1 count of murder for every egg in the woman's body? Should it be against the law for a woman not to try and get every egg fertilized?

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

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The definition of fetus is as follows:
fe·tus [ftəss]
(plural fe·tus·es) or foe·tus [ftəss] (plural foe·tus·es)
n
unborn offspring: an unborn vertebrate at a stage when all the structural features of the adult are recognizable, especially an unborn human offspring after eight weeks of development

Encarta ® World English Dictionary

Individuals in a vegetative state have no brain function. THEY ARE STILL HUMAN.
A fetus is not human, but it is a living being. Just because it doesn't walk and make demands it doesn't make it any less okay to kill it at whim. A fetus has brain function. They are, in fact, more alive than those in a vegetative state. Their hearts beat which means they have veins and blood that pumps through them.

Birth control is a way to prevent getting pregnant. If you get and abortion, you are already pregnant. You can give the child up for adoption. At least give it a chance if you don't want it. As for sterlization, you obviously don't want to have children at all and that is your decision, but having an abortion means that you have already had an egg join with sperm and the embryo has buried itself inside the uterine wall. Eggs are not fetuses, they are eggs. Having a fetus aborted can't not be compared to just eggs. Eggs are not potential life. In fact, a fetus IS life.

Just curious to know. What is your picture of a human?

I just don't think women should get abortions as often as they do for the reasons they give.
Maryssa R. Williams

Jsaj's picture
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Where in that definition does it say that a fetus is a human? No where. It says that it is the unborn offspring of a human.
You seem to think that you are arguing with someone who doesn't think it is OK to let a Vegetative person die, pending the wishes of the person and relatives.
You can't live without a functioning heart. You also can't live without a functioning brain. I consider the brain more important, because it is what makes me ME.
The adoption system is already over crowded and poorly managed. Further more, while another person might want a child, it is not right to force a person to give that child to them. That person still has to go through pregnancy and birth. Those are painful, expensive and stressful experiences and a person should not be forced to go through them.

I consider someone to be a human if they have a brain that functions enough to give them a distinct personality and mind.

"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil

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A person in a vegetative state has brain function. They just don't have enough to think. They don't have HIGHER brain functions. You can't live without brain functions, sorry.

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Crystalio's picture

Some women don't even realize they are pregnant after 6 weeks. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
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Whoa. Hold on there. The mother has more rights than the baby? Dude, what are you smoking? That is like saying whites have more rights than Hispanics, or rich people have more rights than poor, or people with two legs have more rights than those with only one, or that because my IQ is 143, I have more rights than you. We all have the same rights. Whether you believe in a God or not, human beings have the right to life. If God, or Diety, or Allah, or Muhammed, or Ra (or Nature) decide a baby should not be born, the mother's body will naturally abort it; it's called a miscarriage and they happen every day. Otherwise, that human being, from zygote stage on, is a live human being and has the right to life. A human is a human is a human. End of discussion.

mvenus929's picture
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The baby doesn't have legal rights until it comes out of the womb. So yeah, the mother does have more rights than the child.

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