Because That's Not Obscene or Anything...

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I was watching TV one day. Nothing in particular, just the TV Guide Channel. Of course apparently they have TV shows on the TV Guide Channel. At first I didn't mind this so much, but sometimes things get a bit... aggressive? Like The Surreal Life; now that's just insane! I can't even begin to tell you how shocked I was to hear "What the hell!" plain as day.
Yup, in the middle of the TV guide channel. What's up with that tech support chick?

I even hear it when I just happen to be watching commercials about other shows. A lot of things pop up on TV. "Blah blah blah my ass" or "What a bitch" or "You son of a bitch." Stuff like that. or even "Damn it!" But that's about the extent of the language.

Since when has profanity become such a so-called normal part of life that it's ok to swear in plain old commercials? When did it become so appropriate, or required?

One family I babysit for has parental controls on their TV depite having a bajillion channels. I was almost shocked, but...
And not even 30 seconds ago as I type this was, I believe, a commercial for Burn Notice and I just heard something about someone "being bitchy."

My dad was complaining a while back about how sex is no longer a personal topic (or at least ED -that is, erectile disfunction- isn't, but a Viagra or Cialis commercial was on at that point in time) [-( I told hime something along the lines of how it was no big deal because it was a medical commercial. I mean, medical commercials pop up all the time.
But I suppose if I had (younger?) kids (or any, for that matter) I probably wouldn't want some commercial about erectile disfunction or some profanity to pop up on the screen.

Now I'll just barely touch on innuendo.
Spongebob. That's about all I really have to say (and it's on Nickelodeon still, I believe. Which was a kids' channel last I checked). That and I can't watch Spongebob because it hurts my brain. @-)
If you have a good pro-Spongebob argument for me, then go for it! (As long as it isn't just something like "It's funny!")

So if all of this isn't semi-obscene (at least, the profanity or the innuendo on a kids' channel) then what *IS* obscene?

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I'm surprised to hear what was said on the TV guide channel. During certain times of the day, there are only certain words allowed. I was shocked the other day to hear that "fart" is now something controlled by the FCC, and is as bad as real curse words!

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That actually surprises me, too. I don't hear the word "fart" very often, though (but that may be why, I guess, huh?).

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Welcome to the world of free speech and expression! Indecency and obscenity are two different things. Indecent material contains sexual or excretory material that does not rise to the level of obscenity. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, to be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test: (1) an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts); (2) the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and (3) the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The Supreme Court has indicated that this test is designed to cover hard-core pornography.

Indecent speech as “language that, in context, depicts or describes sexual or excretory activities or organs in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium.” The content also has to air between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., a time frame when children are likely to be listening, to be defined as indecent.

Things on cartoons have to be somewhat entertaining for adults...they have to do subtle things to keep adults who are watching cartoons with children occupied. It's a funny concept actually. Whenever I babysit, I watch cartoons with the kids and the things they say are somewhat appaling, but nonetheless amusing.
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of the quote from judge who adjudicated the Jacobellis v. Ohio case on describing the threshold of obscenity.

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [hard-core pornography, which is NOT protected by the US Constitution]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it."

if that doesn't prove obscenity is completely subjective, i don't know what does.

Ah, Justice Stewart and the Movie Day- one of my favorite Con Law stories ^^

I do agree with you that obscenity is completely subjective, but Justice Stewart's quote doesn't help you in that argument. He recanted his view in Miller v California (1973) saying that his view was "simply untenable."
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