I got a comment 2 days agot that really made me think... People are really ignorant arent they? A while ago I posted a blog called "Withdrawing Troops II" in which i questioned if pulling troops out immediately would be a bad move. I know very few soldiers are gung ho about going to Iraq, and I know everyone wants their families home. The men and women of the military know that they follow all orders given to them, whether they agree or not. Unfortunately, when they sign the papers, they also sign over certain rights, such as protesting.
Someone left a comment that desertion in the army was okay. I guess its okay if you want to go to prison for a very long time... He also said, and I quote,
"I'd rather serve a couple years in the brig with military criminals than to BE a military criminal. Every soldier in Iraq is exactly that, a military criminal and a war ciminal."
Well I guess its a good thing he's not in the military huh? I thank our brave men and women for serving, it keeps stupid people like this guy out of the draft. Our military men and women work with low pay, shitty housing, shitty food AND they are seperated from their families. I bet if you asked one of them what they thought about this comment they would be upset. My fiance is leaving the states because of orders, not because he wants to... Does the fact that he serves in the US Army make him a criminal? I think not.
It saddens me to see how ignorant some people are.
"If you cant stand behind our troops, try standing in front of them"
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will, of course, your husband should be honor for his duty to his country, but the occupation itself, should not be honor, nor do those that made it in the first place should be honor. what your husband is doing in noble in that he is willing to give his life for his country, but this occupation have never demand that he gives his life for his countries, this countries is not profiting from your husband services, there are people interested in profiting from your husband services. your husband is noble in his belief, but those that send him over to iraq was not noble, their goals was not noble. your husband is virtue in his cause, but those that send him over there are not noble, because if it is, bush would ask for all kind of sacrifies and ask for a draft. your husband is going there in noble in itself a great viirtue, but there are billion of dollars being made of your husband. i think that this might help put your view into a better perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLYWh2f6xE0
I’m touched that you find me virtuous and noble for wearing this silly outfit every day. But I’m afraid my intentions were not noble at all; I’m serving this god forsaken army because I was looking for the fastest way out of my home town before I got into real trouble with the law; so I signed up. Now everyday I wake up I wish I hadn’t signed any papers and had walked out when I had the chance.
What bothers me the most are families who don't support troops just because they had a loved one die. Or, even if their family member is over and alive, they still don't support them.
The soldiers going over have more guts than that guy who made those comments. They are more of a man (even if they're woman) than most of us in this country. It takes a lot of courage to enlist knowing that you can be sent over anytime after finishing training and could die. I am proud of my fiancée for what he does. An infantry man doing what most in this country won't. And yet, the country complains about protection. You can't have it both ways.
"I’m serving this god forsaken army because I was looking for the fastest way out of my home town before I got into real trouble with the law" Wow, what an American. I'm so glad we have intelligent people like you in our country, then those who really deserve recognition and notice are seen higher. What a dumb thing to do. It's people like who you make me sick. People like you who show the true nature of our country: Not united.
"the occupation itself, should not be honor" Really? You think that? Honestly? That's sad. Well, then, I guess we shouldn't have any military and just let ourselves be taken over by dictatorships and forced to live in hobbles of homes eating the scraps on the ground. I would love that country, oh yes. To be nothing but a flee in the nation.
To all of you, I respect your freedom of speech, and I admire our country for letting people think. But you aren't thinking. I agree with meganlamagna, there are a lot of ignorant, foolish people.
-J-
Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become. Your vision is the promise of what you shall one day be; your ideal is the prophecy of what you shall at last unveil. - James Allen
The invasion of Iraq was and is criminal, and anyone who participates in it is a war criminal. No amount of rationalization can change that.
The invasion of the war in Iraq, is not criminal. And the people who serve our country and fight for it everyday are not criminal either. Our soldiers who participate in the war, leave THEIR families, THEIR friends and THEIR homes, to fight for OUR freedom, and keep OUR families safe. I'm very sorry that you think that they are all a bunch of criminals, because they're not. They are brave women and brave men who fight everyday for us, so we can live our lifes normally and safely. So next time you go to church, or go to school, or say something to someone. Be thankful for those soldiers who fight for our rights that we have in America. And the next time you wake up in the morning to a peaceful ray of sunshine, be thankful for those soldiers who woke up to a bomb going off so you didn't have to.
Very true:
If you can't stand behind our troops, try standing in front of them.
Do you say it was/is criminal? Defending ourselves from being taken over and attacked again, that's criminal? I don't look at my fiancée as a criminal, I respect him for what he does and wish I could do it. So tell me why you say it is criminal. Please, I want to understand.
-J-
Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become. Your vision is the promise of what you shall one day be; your ideal is the prophecy of what you shall at last unveil. - James Allen
Try reading Article II of the UN Charter. You can message me if you need any big words explained.
Some of you peopel are absolutely ridiculous. Defending yourself and your home is not criminal. If some man came into my home at night with teh intention of harming me or my property, I would shoot him. Plain and simple. Defense of oneself does not make a person cirminal. Calling our limitary "criminals" is about as low as you can get. They defend your home, your family, your person, and every little comfort you enjoy every day that they are denied overseas. Have a little respect.
As to the country being "criminal" for starting the war, I believe that we were attacked first. Or was that not enough provocation? Would you have rather waited until the took down a few more of our buildings and few thousand more people?
I knwo I wouldn't have waited. And that's the difference.
I agree with you first paragraph.
The second, eh, not so much. We provoked the attacks, kinda. No, I am not condoning what Al-Qaeda did. But they were in Afganistan, not Iraq. We were attacked by Al-Qaeda in Afganistan. The war in Iraq is not based on terrorism or nuclear weapons, it's based on our wrongly preconcieved notions that we must force democracy on the rest of the world.
I support our troops wholeheartedly. I have a relative and a couple friends in the military, but I don't support the war in Iraq.
You "believe" we were attacked first? Then you believe wrong. We invaded Iraq on March 19, 2003. We were not attacked by Iraq, I'm not sure how old you were at the time, or whether you read the news regularly, but please try and get your facts straight here.
Not sure about how to feel on this one.
I support the troops, and I feel for them because I would not want to be in their situation. As for the legal part, I won't even go there because I do not have enough prior knowledge to take a stance. I will say, however, that the soldiers DID enlist knowing that being sent off was a possibility, knowing the pay, and the possibility of bad conditions. I think that the govt. does portray the military in a much more glamourous way than it should, but ultimately the person enlisting makes the decision.
Once again, I do feel bad for the poor conditions, and I wish they were better. I send care packages, messages via internet and paper card, and show much respect to soldiers. I just think it's one of those cases where the enlistees knew what they were getting themselves into. That still doesn't comprimise my compassion for the troops, though. Ideally, they could all come home, world peace would occur, hunger would end, and we would all live happily ever after.
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I support the troops and not the war. I believe the war is somewhat criminal, considering we still haven't found those WMDs... but our troops are serving our country, they didn't say, "Hey Bush! What do you think about sending us all to Iraq?"
I agree though, protesters need to get to the root of the war, the government not the soldiers and their families. People protest at soldiers funerals, now that is just wrong.
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