Please just quit

shawn87's picture
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This may be kind of harsh, but you know what, It's kind of driving me crazy....

In 2 of my upperdivision physics courses, there is a lady in her mid 40's and she seriously needs to try something else. First of all, she has a comment about EVERYTHING our prof says, but whatever, maybe she has a lot to say, or a lot to offer with her comments...nope. After every comment/question, she gets an attitude with the teacher because she's so behind and just doesn't understand anything. The prof tries to dumb down the answers so she can understand, but nothing works with this lady. She'll throw her pencil down, breath hard, and just roll her eyes like the teacher is the idiot. After every outbreak from this lady, I stare at her baffled that she would act like this during class. But, 2 days ago, I thought my dreams came true... We had a test, and about 10 minutes after starting, she got up, slammed the test on the desk, and walked out. I couldn't believe it, she actually quit and dropped out. YESSSS. I finished the test relieved that I wouldn't be seeing her anytime soon, but little did I know. The next class, she actually showed back up. I cannot witn with this lady. So, I have a proposal for her: how about she doesn't show up ever again in class, and I'll meet with her to teach her everything...sound good?

Maybe I'm overreacting, but I just can't take the whole adults trying to go back to college...

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I think adults can go back to college, but not ones like this.
Thats crazy she didnt get the dumbed down answers.

shawn87's picture

im not saying they shouldnt be allowed..i would never like that. but, this has happened to me in more than one class, where older adults try and come back, and they dont make it pas the first 5 weeks. Im just kind of annoyed because the profs get these people, and have to actually take time out to deal with an immature adult who thinks they are a special case because they are getting an extra chance...who knows, its just something i have to deal with haha

TUFFGONG's picture
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We had a woman like that in our Visual Communications course. She was under the misguided notion that because she was old as ass, she was also wise by default. She didn't know her snatch from her elbow regarding anything in any class, yet she treated the lecturers as if she was their superior based on some sort of age related measure. She argued everything, like a drunk child I might add, and everytime she was subsequently drowned in a vat of her own wrongness, she took it as some kind of personal slight exacted upon her by people who merely failed to understand the subject according to her.

She used to turn around and use her miserable results, seriously relaxed grasp of any of the course work and the correction that generated, and use it as evidence of some kind of mythical agist conspiracy. I speculate that prior to joining our course, she spent most of her time around children and equally stupid and ill-educated peers, where she was free to spew all manner of bowelbrained opinion without ever being confronted by somebody who actually had the intellect or perhaps the will to set her straight. Suddenly landing in a class full of students and lecturers half her age who had no problem taking her down to intellectual China town obviously proved to be a shock to the system.

I see it with my own mother. She left school at 17 and surrounds herself with other woman who've done the same. They all married wealthy husbands when they hit their early twenties, then just sat back and let their intelligence dwindle to dangerous levels, just wallowing in ignorance. They are like a support group for ridiculous opinion and ignorance fuelled craziness. They rarely correct each other's idiotic notions, I suspect because in their world of small talk and social events, contradicting each other could upset the precious equilibrium generated by everybody nodding and agreeing.

My old man, who's a medical Doctor, is just too weary to bother arguing with any of them; he craves two things in life, peace and quiet, and arguing with a foolish wife and her foolish friends is not a surefire way of ensuring either. I see this in her friends' husbands too, a collection of well educated men who just couldn't be bothered dealing with the emotional Chernobyl that resuilts from arguing reason with unreasonable people.The end result for my mother is this: she thinks she's right about everything, but seldom is, however in her little bubble world of children and silly undereducated housewives, she is also seldom corrected.

After enough years of this conditioning, to be suddenly confronted with intelligent argument and contradiction, it must seem to them like they've stumbled accross the most ill-informed bunch of crazy no-nothings they could have ever imagined. They rationalize this to themselves by deciding that everybody in this new environment is crazy, stupid or weird, then they run back to their bubbles after college hours so they can enjoy the fruits of equally dumb people patting them on the back and agreeing with them that those lecturers and students do sound stupid.

Many members of these kinds of anti-intellectual support groups will be of the ilk that reasure themselves regarding their own educational defecit by saying things like 'You don't learn shit in no University anyhow', which is usually met with a reaction which ranges between solemn nods of agreement and full blown high fiving..
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I am the people my mother warned me about.

Miho's picture

I know a couple people like that. I think they're problem is that in their mind, they've already admitted defeat. They think, "well this is hard subject, I'm not going to get so I won't even try." They just have implanted in their heads that everything is impossible and the world is out to get them. They refuse to try, they refuse to just let go and let the information soak in. I bet you anything that when she was in high school or whatever she messed around and figured that she was bad at everything. Now the times has come when all her kids are gone or maybe her life just slowed down so she decided to go back to school to pass the time or get a better paying job. She already has it in her mind that this is something she must do, she probably deep down doesn't really want to even be back in class, so to protect herself from the feeling of failing she's created a mental block that makes her believe that she just doesn't understand and the reason for her not understanding will be placed solely on the professor in her mind.
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TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

"They think, "well this is hard subject, I'm not going to get so I won't even try." "

I disagree, I think they generally think that they are right because they percieve themselves as graduates of 'The University of Life'. What is most likely running through their heads is this: "This subject is hard because the lecturer is stupid and lacks the skill and wisdom I have from being middle-age to teach it to me properly. The only reason the other students get good results is because they are young and not percieved as a threat to the lecturer's superiority as I am. Yeah, that's it, the lecturer is too stupid and feels too threatened by my age to recognize my wisdom over his. He's a stupid teacher, the course is structured in a stupid way, the other students are so stupid they just go along with it, then i get persecuted for standing my ground and telling everybody in my infallible worldy wisdom that everything is stupid. And what's more, when I mentioned it to Sally and Gillian over coffee the other morning they agreed with me. I'm a martyr, like Joan of Ark. Case closed"
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I am the people my mother warned me about.

asmaw's picture

and it's driving me mad and i really don't want to be disrespectful but it's so not good for them to hold the whole class back
ARGH - i need to find a way to approach this topic with the professor

"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight

Well, that's the spirit behind community colleges- not only can young adults can take classes, but old adults can take college classes, too.

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