"awww..that was sooo cute you dirty whore!!!"
"YOU are my favorite ssslut ever!!! but really.. stop with the stds already."
"well i really need to take a little tripy trip down to slutville and booze it up with you guys!!!"
Maybe I'm old and just don't recognize Third Wave Feminism when I see it, but the above quotes, from my 19-year-old cousin's MySpace page, don't seem like empowering things for women to say to other women. Has feminism evolved to the point that these words no longer have power over us? Or has it devolved enough that we're now eating our own?
My cousin and her friends are not unique. I hear girls call each other "ho" all the time. Sororities host "Pimps and Hoes" parties and think it's hilarious. The young feminists are "reclaiming" words like "bitch," "cunt," and "hoe." It is important to turn dis-empowering labels on their heads. My own group of peers has certainly embraced the terms "dyke" and "queer," but we sure aren't calling each other those names in a public forum like MySpace.
Ladies, let me give you an insider tip-- men still call you those names when you're out of earshot, except they MEAN it. What makes me an "insider?" I'm certainly not one of the guys, but straight men often try to understand lesbians within a framework they can to which they can relate...that is, once they figure out that my girlfriend and I will NOT put on a make-out show for them, they figure, "Hey, we both like p***y!" This nullifies my existence as a sexual being (some men don't know what to do with women who aren't sexually available to them), and I become one of them. At this stage, they say all kinds of things they would never say to a "real" woman.
These words still have the power to wound. The Urban Dictionary defines a "hoe" as:
1. A skank
2. A woman that is too loose in the booty.
3. Woman or man that f*#k anything with two legs.
4. A promiscuous person.syn: slut
When you use those words on each other, you give men license to disrespect you. Why shouldn't they view you as little more than sex objects when you label yourselves and others as such? And when you accompany comments like "dirty whore" with photos like the anonymous naughty firefighter at left, you just validate every degrading thought men have about you. Is that power?
These are the girls who grew up on the Powerpuff Girls, soccer leagues, and attitude tees. I know many women will argue that they ARE empowering themselves by embracing their femininity and their sexuality, and that owning and controlling it is real power. My question for them is, whose definition of powerful sexuality are you embracing? And can words that have not yet lost their power to degrade ever be empowering?
It seems to me that the cheap marketing blitz of their early Girl Power years has taught many young women one thing-- how to market themselves cheaply.
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Like teenagers before us we are just voicing something laready presented to us. Our age was presented to gangsta rap, exposing of tabloids, and Bill Clinton. Sexual images, making it hard for us not to make it a post mark of our era.
Glutenously yours,
Pasta Rasta
Celiac disease runs in my family! Gluten is poison to us!
Kidding.
You make a fair point, but still, if you are a man, are you more likely to respect a woman whose friends all refer to her in sexual terms?
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Of course not, i'm not saying that because of this it's totally respectful only that it is socially possible to be respectuful. whether it's right or wrong i'm not sure. Its kind of like asking an adukt to become a kid and kid to become an adult, there will be two completelty different eras of opinion.
Glutenously yours,
Pasta Rasta
Ok, I'm only 20, and I can't fathom girls doing this. Seriously...
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I'm with you, C. I grew up with the whole "girl power" thing going around, but I never understood the "slut power" side of that. It makes me want to gag every time I see or hear friends talking about what sluts they are or bragging about their drunken sexual exploits. If you want to be empowered and take charge of your sexuality as a women, I think that's great, but I don't think running around half naked and calling friends sluts or other equally demeaning labels has anything to do with being empowered. That said I think it's harder for me to define what really is empowering then it is too say these types of things aren't really empowering for women.
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I sure am glad to hear it isn't just because I'm old!
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I;m with ya, i;m 21 and it used to make me sick when i would pick up my little brother from school. These little teeny boppers would throw themselfs at him. Young women these days have no self respect. I have seen girls wallk by boys wearing booty shorts, stilletos and with their pre puberty boobies hanging out, and answer when boys would yell at them "aye girl come here" ... Then wopnder why they get no respect... Young women these days do not know how to portray...i guess they never heard the term :why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free"
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It seems to me like this might be synoynmous with African Americans using the "n-word". Women are taking terms that have always been used to refer to them in a derogatory manner and almost embracing them.
Its disgusting though. I'm only 22, so I grew up with those same things mentioned by Pasta Rasta, but I certainly don't call any of my friends whores or sluts. In fact, I don't know if my friends would continue to be such if I did!
Can't we just use our given names when we talk to each other anyway? I'd much rather someone say "Hey SaxPlayer2 how are you today?" than "Hey Girl/Woman/Babe/Whore/Slut/Insert stereotypical or non-specific blanket term here, how are you today?"
God, I HATE the word cunt! And, unfortunately, girls do degrade themselves in jest and I never understood it. My mother says to her friends, "hey, hoe, how's the hoe family?" all the time, and sometimes I even catch myself saying things like that and I always feel my insides churn right after the words come out of my mouth. It's almost like the new 2008 culture revolves around viewing sex as something as common and ordinary as eating breakfast, women being the breakfast.
How do you change an entire "culture" though? What can we do to teach girls and women to say things that value themselves as opposed to degradation?
I don't know how to turn the tide. The media representations of girls and women these days are not helping. Stupid Bratz.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
i understand where youre coming from with the respect issue, however, i use the word cunt and it happens to be one of my favorites. in fact, i also agree with you that sex has become an open factor of life in the past year or so, but in all reality isnt that the beauty of freedom. We are free to express ourselves as we choose and some choose their sexuality. i for one believe that ones sexuality or sexual preference is their choice. they should be able to express themselves in whatever way they want. however, there still is the issue of respect. i believe that there should be some form of respect when using words like cunt, whore, slut, hoe and all other "downgrading" terms as those. But everyone has the right to represent themslves as they choose. anyway, my point is that sex is a natural part of life and should be taken as such. so yes it is a very common occurrence in everyday society. i for one see it as just another beautiful aspect of the human agenda.
I believe media channels all together with the internet and Music which is around moulds teens into expressing themselves the way they do.
A clothing brand is considering to put a wonder bra on the market, which is meant for ten year olds.
I believe it hit the news last week, anyhow, people are not happy with it.
So, I guess some situations are being exploited while other are bound to create trouble on the long run.
ALL through high school and still do! I try to take myself out of situations where these people lurk, but every once in a while I'll drop into a party where every girl is taking myspace pics of her 'sluts' and giggling up a storm.
The words they are using are so vulgar and are tossed around so casually, it just makes them look immature....though I'm sure most little kids don't affectionately refer to each other as whore.
Sometimes it seems like they are calling each other these names to be more APPEALING to men. They think men must like girls in touch with their sexuality. The truth is they do, but I think that's going about it the wrong way. That's just making yourself look like an idiot.
Times flies like the wind; fruit flies like a banana.
Well, just another sign that whatever version of apocalypse your personal spirituality says is forthcoming, will be heralded by the the siren sounds of....
"OMG u whore, I waz so0o0o wasted, have you seen my underwear??"
Sigh, its actually depressing. Woman-kind was at the crescendo of true equality, and then apparently somewhere along the line they voted Paris Hilton in to represent them, in some political agenda via MySpace; and equality ended with a shot of tequila, and too much MTV.
Most men I know have absolutely ZERO respect for any woman that refers to herself as a slut, whore, etc. We usually go with what people label themselves. Its easier that way. It allows my fellow guys to be lazy and thats what were best at.
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Would she, like, actually GO to Pennsylvania? It's so not even coastal!
You crack me up.
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Ok so I'm almost done with high school and I hear this kind of stuff all of the time. I think it is the same way with African Americans calling each other niggers and etc.
Certain groups get mad when others call them that, but it's ok to use words within those groups.
Yes, calling someone a whore jokingly is not the most respectful thing, but either are the other words that other groups use. Of course it gives the opportunity of letting other people pick-up the word and use it, it is never used that seriously.
But really... when you use a word so much like that it becomes meaningless. Honestly if a guy ever called me a whore or any kind of name like that, I would not be offended because I know it's not true. It is just a word.
It depends if the guy is just calling you a whore, or if he actually believes it.
I mean, if someone calls me a whore I don't think they really think I sleep with a crapload of everyone, I think it's just meant as a hurtful term.
Like dickhead. If someone called me a dickhead and really meant it, I wouldn't check my forehead to see if there was a penis bobbing. But, I think I probably would be hurt just a tiny bit to know they wanted to insult me for some reason. it's not the actual word, but the motivation behind it I guess.
I still hate the word cunt. I think it's gross.
Times flies like the wind; fruit flies like a banana.
I agree with your point. I think when African Americans use the N bomb on their friends and think its cool, it just gives the real racist people the authority to say it. Just like these girls calling eachother ho, and slut just gives men the okay to call you that. Its not fair, either use it as a disrespectful term ALL the way around or not at all. I am 21 years old, anyone who calls me anything along these terms is getting there teeth punched out. I think the term "women" is even disrespecful as well. Kids these days.... i almost feel bad for them, but then again they almost brought it upon themselves.
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It's getting hot and slutty in here...haha
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Or better yet - why are insults for girls/women always sexual? Sure, "cunt" is just a female version of "prick," but "hoe" is almost never used against men. Why is that?
T.k.
I was just pissed at my cousin, so I didn't even think about that side of the argument. But it's so true. Men wear conquests like a badge; women get labels. So maybe they are trying to level the playing field? I think there are more respectable ways to do it though.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
To be honest, I have no idea what girls my age think. They've tried - and failed - to explain things like why long hair is worth the bother, why it's worth listening to attractive singers who can't sing, and any number of other mysteries. Bitch is their favorite insult, even when they are fully aware of its misogynistic meaning. For all I know they could be trying to reclaim sexuality. From what I've seen, though, some are definitely just using the words to submit to the guys. Blech.
T.k.
It's amazing. Check it out. EVERYONE should read it, IMHO.
http://bitchmagazine.org/
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
I love Bitch magazine. I started reading it last year when I found it in my college bookstore. I don't always agree with their spin on an issue, but its always interesting.
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I often disagree with them, but the articles are always well written and mind-expanding. They incite thought. Dangerous!
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
Familiar with, but have never read. I read Ms. though. Does that count for anything?
T.k.
One simple reason, we'd be proud of it. It's almost like guys are raised to be "on the prowl".
I refer to the phenomenon which sparked this thread as the "Girls Gone Wild"-ification of today's young women. It seem to have co-incided with the mainstreaming of porn.
The way I see it, the culture has shifted and guys are no longer looking for "a girl like dear old mom". Now they're looking for a girl who would make mom blush. It's also no longer about whether or not you can score, but about how dirty you can get her to act. The dirtier (read: more degrading) the "studlier" or "manlier" you are.
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I'm too tired to find the link right now (just woke up, waiting for coffee to brew), but I encourage you to find it and read it. It was amusing and thoughtful.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
As a teenager I agree with what you say. I've before been accepted as 'one of the guys' and the comments I hear are often extrodinariley degrading.
I understand we live in different times, and these words dont hold the same... intensity they did before.
But that doesnt make using them okay. Sometimes is okay to throw them around, but there has to be a limit.
I think it's ultimately wrong. Calling eachother sluts and whores just gives men the right to do so. It's the same concept as a black person calling another black person 'nigger.' I don't condone any type of degrading or hateful slurs by anyone to anyone at anytime.
I wouldn't call dressing up as a sexy fireman and prancing around like a slut 'embracing your sexuality.' Quite the contrary, if you have to do that to feel feminine, how secure with your sexuality are you?
[Krst]
hrm... "prancing around like a slut" did I just conradict myself?
Well... I didn't call anyone I slut... I said like a slut. idk, I didn't mean it the way it sounded lol.
[Krst]
:)X
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It's not limited to the states.
Beijing, Aschaffenburg, Shanghai and Guangzhou are all suffering the same. I'm not even eighteen yet and it turns my stomach; I've had to turn down "YOU'RE LEGAL" parties four times already because I can't see myself celebrating that aspect of another year of life.
I don't understand it.
It is a truly horrifying trend. Girls seem to confuse 'sexuality' and being feminine with sex. Dressing in a mini-skirt and then not wearing panties is not projecting an image of owning one's sexuality, it looks like the only thing you consider yourself good for is being used for sex. Sexuality is not purely about sex but is also about who you are as a person. Sexuality is not about how many men you can sleep with while drunk or how many embarrassing pictures you take of yourself half-naked. Women these days are just setting themselves up for being looked upon as stupid and incapable of handling things themselves. When you dumb yourself down and debase yourself to being nothing more than your vagina for people to use, you are just asking for disrespect. I can't imagine anyone honestly taking the term "whore" and "bitch" as affectionate terms. The word whore is about one of the ugliest things you could call anyone - male or female.
My younger sister and I will occasionally say "thanks bitch" in a faux Paris Hilton voice, but that's the extent of it. And of course, we're mocking her not insulting each other.
It seems people have lost all their self-respect. It's truly sad and pathetic.
All of this is a straight result of what’s to be found on the internet, 8 year olds exposed to graphics which are for the least to say disturbing, are unwarily molded, it affects these kids thoughts, interpretations and emotions regarding sexuality and all aspects that are involved with it.
It actually works both ways, and that’s mainly were trouble kicks in Big Time, males that are married for more than 25 years while enjoying a standard missionary sex life on a once a month bases, go through serious mental pains when seeing an 18 years olds enjoying the sexual liberties they enjoy.
It’s not all that hard to create a picture on were this is leading too… one thing is for sure, youngsters are not be blamed for their actual behavior!
Suddenly when you have a child...I think all the need for sexual attention in that manner disappears.
But pictures don't lie and once you post them on the internet, they are there...so if the ladies want to forever be known by that sort of "marketing"...if they are prepared to have people show photos of them to their kids drinking and naked, then that's the risk of embarrassment they need to be willing to take.
Not to mention all the fifty and sixty something men that are online drooling over your photos and just waiting for you to post a phone number or address.
Ladies wanting to be "more than a girl" need to find more mature ways to demonstrate their sexuality. Unfortunately, pop culture loves to deflower women. The media and internet encourage this, give it 5 stars and make girls popular based on their implants and ass cheeks. It's almost a competition thing, which is disguisting, demeaning and they are gonna hate themselves later for participating in it.
Fair warning from a Madonna Wannabee.
I don’t believe to become a parent brings any change to what’s cooking in the brains of certain males.
Media channels just like the internet reflect image’s which are not always well interpreted by older generations.
Over the years during my work which involved working with teenagers from various countries, I sometimes found myself being harassed by 15 and 16 years old teen girls which acted in various ways in order to get my focus upon their growing sexual needs.
On many occasions I almost got in trouble after turning down advances some of these teens made on me. The fact that this issue was a commonly know and an openly discussed aspect amongst college’s, made situations in which “I got hunted down for sexual attention” to be deled with in a proper manner.
Most of the time a small chat with a female college of ours was enough to cool down these teens. Teens can become extremely creative when it comes to teasing and flirting with older men. Teens are fully aware of certain aspects but then again totally foolish and extremely ignorant about other aspects which might mean trouble if they would engage the wrong male.
I believe it will grow worse before it gets better again, many parts of the world are dealing with a sexual liberation of guild. Sex has become a platform in which many find solace to vent their build up emotional stress.
Some girls and women out there really enjoy the demeaning part of sexuality, so I believe proper guidance and education in what’s important to keep in the back of our heads, needs to be projected in an open all knowing and understanding way towards youngsters who are set to engage themselves in sexual activities.
Youngsters of today don’t care less about future embarrassment. By the time they have children of their own, our worldly picture, will look way different while their pictures will be something to laugh about.
There is never a way back to close or box up the exposure which is taking place now, it will get worse and therefore it is necessary to create informative and a no nonsense education to arise with it.
"There is never a way back to close or box up the exposure which is taking place now, it will get worse and therefore it is necessary to create informative and a no nonsense education to arise with it."
That just gave me an idea for a middle school lesson plan. I recently wrote one on identifying and avoiding plagiarism, and a lesson on internet representations of oneself would fit nicely with it. Kids need to see concrete examples of what can happen, not cautionary tales and moral judgments. They dismiss those immediately. But if we can give the information to them in a way that allows them to engage with message we hope to convey, they will listen. Maybe the class collaborates on two mySpace profiles...one in which the "personality" engages in risky internet behavior and another in which identity is protected? And each new posting or spam or message is discussed and analyzed? Sort of like those Choose Your Own Adventure books that were popular when I was a kid?
You give me al kinds of ideas, Wombels! Thanks!
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
Happy you liked it,
Some inspiration followed out of your blog, thank you too
I made a Porn Blog….. rofl
Porn away porn
http://progressiveu.org/142430-porn-away-porn
I really hate it when the female power is redefined as f*** power by the very own divine sex. Relating it to the parent post, girls do tend to keep men on lease. And when such 'babes' lure their lust lasso around men, even the faithful tend to loosen their belt along with their brains.
But since diamond cuts diamond, i find it silly to say men should restrain their desires to fend off such feminist attacks (no offence to ladies... i'm a feminist too).
I cannot tell you how much I agree. Its the most bizzare thing, seeing girls call each other hoes and sluts and whatever else there is. I don't understand why people are so degrading...to themselves! Something's wrong and needs to be changed with this generation!
Tegan.
There's an episode of South Park that addresses this exact issue, "Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playset". For those of you who won't even consider watching South Park, here's a link to the Wikipedia article about the episode. It's fairly accurate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_Spoiled_Whore_Video_Playset
As much as I like the show, I think it's sad that South Park is one of the few morally sound shows on television now.
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I'm 26 years old and while an inside joke or two between friends has crossed the line, I've never called anyone these names in public nor would I allow someone to call me by these names. I grew up in a very "girl power" household and that would have gotten my bottom blistered!
I have a litttle girl though (8 1/2 months old) and I worry what will be around for her when she hits this age. If this is something that is socially acceptable in this generation than what is next?
How is this supposed to be a positive move for women? How is this supposed to help us earn respect? I too thought that these were the things that we fought AGAINST!
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Things will get better, but it will get worse before a change will arise, girls are shifting out of their (imposed religion) role. A (good girl) role which is bringing them trouble
They need to do this in order to level down sexuality between both sexes, once this process is behind reason will come back in place.
If anyone cares to speed up this process, stop buying Barbie items, throw stories about that prince on a white horse in the garbage can.
Think twice before putting kids on this world, they aren’t pets!
I couldn't have said it better myself!
And I hope you are right. I hope things will level off someday.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
They will, because girls are gaining back their sexual right and identity, in order to achieve this, they need to level down to the level of boys in order to get in touch with their weakness. Once they figure out what this weakness represents, they will have control over it, change it and improve the boys emotional state.
Where many mothers fail to bring some sense to their boys, teen girls will kick ass like they have never done before. This implies them becoming dirty for a period of time.
Believe this will be over and woked out within the spam of a generation or two.
Check this out: http://www.progressiveu.org/234554-good-girl-what-supposed-mean
Marissa
I agree with you that calling other girls and ourselves dirty names for fun does give guys license to call us the same things in a more demeaning way.
I have always interpreted my empowerment to be able to act and live on the equal playing field of men. Yes as a woman, I have qualities much better than a man, and yet I find it empowering I have entitled myself to the same liberating activities of men. While no, I do not run around in skimpy clothes, bikini tops and cut off shorts, or flash my chest to Girls Gone Wild cameras, history has shown I have charisma and a charm that most guys are drawn too. I have no need to reveal my body to others in public and yet I live a life where I, as well as those around me save for a select few (my parents), can completely embrace my sexuality. Those against so called "promiscuity" have different morals and ethics than I do, yes, but that doesn't mean my lifestyle is wrong. Homosexuality is deemed inappropriate by many because their morals are different. Homosexuality can just as well be monogamous, but still viewed as wrong. So really I see no difference in my so called "promiscuous" lifestyle of heterosexuality and monogamous homosexuality. Its all in how the lifestyle is carried out. For men who have no interest in me, thats their choice. I have no problem with that. I have no need for men's approval or validation in my life. Its about what I want, what I feel comfortable with in my life. And I love it. I'm educated, professional, and am comfortable with myself and my desires. How much more female empowerment do you need?
But my question was not about how you live your life. It was about the labels women place on each other. Do those around you call you a whore? Would it feel empowering to you if they did?
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
this doesn't say anything about women as a whole.
just because your cousin is simpleminded doesn't mean every other teenage girl is.
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http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/weezyf
Go through MySpace a bit. Tons of girls talk to each other like this. And you hear it out in public too. I never said every girl does it, but enough do that it warrants commentary.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
the issue is not nearly as widespread or problematic as claimed. All teenagers are not calling eachother vulgarities constantly, and teens can definitely tell whether or not somebody means the dictionary definitions of an obscenity. I believe this claim is part of the everpresent societal need to revere times past. Things were not always "in my day" or "the olden days" and "this day and age" is not always "our most trying time," "especially now."
This style of criticism evolves from the for people to feel special. We like to feel that what we do is as or more important than that epic crap we read about in history textbooks.
I am not saying that now is an unimportant time, I am saying that now is likely a better time to live than ever before (there, I fall victim to the need to feel special too), so give the youth the benefit of the doubt.
Also, myspace is primarily intended for other teens. When we are in the presence of other, wiser generations, most of us reform our vocabularies to meet our elders expectations.
I agree. People love to hate the present and romanticize the past.
"Movies in my day had substance"
"Music used to be deep"
"Kids used to respect their parents"
"Girls used to respect themselves"
"Parents used to take care of their kids"
"People used to word hard for what they wanted"
"Guys used to be men"
I was listening to a radio program from the 1940s and heard a man say "music back in my day was good." So this trend certainly isn't new, maybe just more popular now.
“I hope the departure is joyful and I hope never to return.” - Frida Kahlo
I'm gonna betch slap the dumb outta you
I have to disagree. If you are around teens, you hear "slut" or "hoe" or "bitch" constantly. Its like a nickname. It does not have to do with "back in my day..." type of thinking. Its just how it is and it needs to be changed.
Tegan.
I'm not that old. Second, none of the things you quoted were said in my blog. This is not a "back in my day" criticism, as my age group started Third Wave feminism, which we are still riding today. I did not say all teens talk this way. I said teens who don't realize the impact of their words talk this way.
And actually, MySpace was intended as a way for musical artists to get their names out there. I don't know what the demographic numbers are at MySpace, but I know there are a fair amount of 20-35 year old users. So don't act like we're too old and out of touch to possibly understand how you roll.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
Calm down grandma
“I hope the departure is joyful and I hope never to return.” - Frida Kahlo
I'm gonna betch slap the dumb outta you
smart a$$. ;)
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Being past the teen-age not long ago, having completed my schooling from 3 entirely different schools in 3 different cities and being in college in the 4th city i.e the capital, I feel i can genuinely comment on this. Those who lack substance in reality try to create an environment around them by calling themselves sluts or whatever on these social (virtual) networks. As if this elevates their importance that not everyone is comfortable talking like that. Even for those who talk like that in reality, I haven't seen such people progress, never... they never come out of their circle and run away from hard work, unless of course, they face some tough conditions.
There are also the brainy pple who dont protest openly and pretend to enjy talking like that while socializing yet don't make it a habit, obviously that helps. But then it all adds to the image that whole of the generation is changin n stuff as the author said so...
just because slutty paris hilton gets to be the highest rolemodel for girls doens't mean that they truly listen. they are trying to uphold ideals that we, the people, have allowed to come into the limelight. they truly do not even know what it is that makes them special. neither do most of us. most times, the girls that i know, they do not see what it is that truly makes them beautiful, but then again, how can anyone. we are all just jumbles of our own experiences.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes :)X
I just don't understand why to embrace our femininity, we feel that we need to degrade ourselves first. Since the twenties, we've really made a name for ourselves through hard work and determination, and now it seems as though we're trying to tear everything down again. I just don't understand.
Ok, I'm 18... and I will admit to using the terms hoe, whore, slut, and bitch loosely. I think by us using the word jokingly it hurts less to hear it as an actual insult. Just as many other words throughout time have changed in meaning, these words are changing to us. If I hear someone call me a bitch I laugh because it makes me think of this joke I have with my friend. These words are words that have to be heard in the context of a conversation. If we stop looking at these words as insults, they no longer have any power over you when you hear them.
Ok, I'm 18... and I will admit to using the terms hoe, whore, slut, and bitch loosely. I think by us using the word jokingly it hurts less to hear it as an actual insult. Just as many other words throughout time have changed in meaning, these words are changing to us. If I hear someone call me a bitch I laugh because it makes me think of this joke I have with my friend. These words are words that have to be heard in the context of a conversation. If we stop looking at these words as insults, they no longer have any power over you when you hear them.
Ok, I'm 18... and I will admit to using the terms hoe, whore, slut, and bitch loosely. I think by us using the word jokingly it hurts less to hear it as an actual insult. Just as many other words throughout time have changed in meaning, these words are changing to us. If I hear someone call me a bitch I laugh because it makes me think of this joke I have with my friend. These words are words that have to be heard in the context of a conversation. If we stop looking at these words as insults, they no longer have any power over you when you hear them.
I have friends who say things like this to me and each other. We do it as part of the 'fake insult' joke, which many of my friends find funny. There is a point where we draw the line though- we do not speak like that in a public place and never post public comments like those. I find them offensive when done in public, where anyone can misconstrue the conversation or then find it acceptable to do the same. Public etiquette still exists, no matter if it is online or in a store or restaraunt.
My friends and I will say things are "gay" all the time, but only when we are together and out of earshot of any straight people, because we ARE gay, for one thing, so we find it funny to use the slur that straight people use and apply it to everyday things that we do...I mean, if we're doing it and we're gay, that sort of makes everything we do gay. It's probably not as funny to other people as it is to us, and we are really hurt by the slur when other people use it injuriously against us or around us, so we NEVER say it around anyone else. I get what you mean about the fake insult.
But you're right...public etiquette still exists. It's all about public perception. if you tell everybody someone is a hoe, everybody will think that person is a hoe.
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I think it's dumb to take words that people claim is hurtful and use them as a form or so-called empowerment. At the same time, someone who does not know me or doesn't have something good to say about it, for the most part will not phase me. I let thier ignorance and stupidity roll off my back for the most part. Me calling them stupid doesn't phase them why should them calling me ***** phase me?
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