[I'm the first to admit--sometimes I'm a bit of an angry writer. In this case, apparently I was too angry. Thusly, this post has been somewhat edited for content in order to abide by ProU's Terms of Service. If you'd like to see the original post, you can find it here, in my more personal blog. Also, for the sake of posterity, I've marked the edits using asterisks. Anyone that's read the original post will notice some pretty drastic differences.]
I am just so, so fed up. I'm sick and tired of this nonsense, and I don't want to deal with it anymore. What's more, I know other people out there feel the same way.
That's right, my friends. I'm talking about the fact that apparently...spelling things correctly and using appropriate grammar is now the eighth deadly sin.
Now I don't know about the rest of you, but personally I get extremely annoyed when I'm reading someone's post, regardless of the content, and every other word is completely butchered. If someone can't master the language they were taught from the time they started talking, they have no business sharing their opinions with the world. *First Amendment occasionally protects our freedom of speech, though, so those people can say whatever they want! Nothing could be better!*
People complain that there's no spell check? They could type up their post in MS Word or another word-processing program that does have a spell checker, *but of course I wouldn't want to offend anyone, because obviously the best way to fix something is to coddle the perpetrator. Wouldn't want them to be offended...if they can even spell "offended"*! Or how about if they actually pay attention in school? English isn't even my first language and I can spell most things correctly, and if I don't know how to spell something I at least have the decency to look it up! I mean, geez, is it that difficult to spend an extra second typing that elusive word into Google so that they don't look *foolish* to anyone that reads the *innocently naive balderdash* they think is worth sharing with the rest of us?
For that matter, if they don't know how to spell a word and they refuse to do those of us that aren't quite as *silly* the favor of checking the correct spelling, they have no business using that word. Recent offenders include: *well hey, find your own examples! It's not like it's difficult! Just, you know... don't mention them Anywhere. You never know when one of these lost children of the English language might be lurking, and if they recognize the error as their own, they might be unhappy...and the last thing I want is for anyone to ever be unhappy, anywhere. Let's all just hold hands and be happy, happy, happy. After all, what better way to promote progress than by ignoring fundamental problems for the sake of political correctness? I sure can't think of one!* Next time I would perhaps use a word I was more familiar with, less chance of looking like a *child that was left behind* that way.
I don't even know who to hold responsible for this plague of idiocy. Is it the public school system? I'm a product of that system and as far as I can tell, I'm not a *cheeky monkey* that tries to bandy around words like "coincidence" while spelling them with a Q so I'm sure that's not it. Is it that most Americans are brainwashed zombies that could give a rat's ass about their intellectual capacity as long as they have a shiny SUV in their driveway and a big-screen TV in their living room? Maybe, but most of my friends are natural-born and they're not *cheeky monkeys*, so that's probably not it either. Is it because most people are just too stupid to give a *something that comes out of your bottom after you eat* in general? Really, somebody help me out here, 'cause I'm at my wit's end regarding this issue.
While we're on the subject of *people that aren't as smart as they wish they were*, is it really that difficult to hit that apostrophe key when they're using a contraction or a possessive? And why, for the sake of all that is holy and good in the world, why do they try to make up for their ignorance of basic (BASIC! we're not even talking about dangling participles here!) grammar rules by sticking an apostrophe between the word and the letter S in something that's plural?
Are they going to get leprosy and start losing their fingers if they use them to insert a comma where it's appropriate? Does the thought of using a period fill them with fear and anxiety? Is the judicious use of punctuation in general going to make them seem "uncool" to the neighborhood kiddies? Because, I mean, if they're going to look uncool then don't worry about it. Wouldn't want to tarnish their reputation as the cool kids. Nope. For that matter, let's forget about using question marks. Using them really makes too much sense. No, instead let's abandon any and all forms of punctuation except for that favorite of *people that like to exaggerate* everywhere--the exclamation point.
Perhaps even worse than the spelling skills of a *kindergartener* and the grammar knowledge of an *"English as a second language" student* is the god-forsaken internet abbreviation lingo.^ Now, yes, sometimes I do indulge in the occasional "brb" but that's usually because I'm about to pee my pants and if I don't run to the bathroom at that exact moment I will mess myself, so I simply don't have the patience to type out "be right back"as I furiously will my bladder to hold it in. Sorry, that may have been a bit graphic. Anyway, yes, some online abbreviations have their place...but as these people are idly sitting in front of their computers, switching between inane conversations with friends (that might be even stupider than they are) and the latest Fall Out Boy video on MTV, so they're clearly in no rush...why must they abbreviate absolutely everything? Are the two "extra" letters in words like "you" and "are" just soooo far out of the way that they simply can't be bothered to use them? Is adding the W on the end of the word "know" beyond their intellectual capability? For that matter, stop using numbers for words! They have seperate designations for a reason, *you silly goose*. They're probably the same people that don't use the turn signal while they're driving 'cause moving their finger that extra inch to the switch is way too difficult. *Those rascals.*
Oh, and speaking of being too lazy to hit a certain key...I'm only going to say this once, and I'm going to put it in a format that maybe those people I'm addressing will understand:
TURN OFF CAPS LOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh. No one wants to read the all-caps *hooey*, they can't spell, they wouldn't know a properly punctuated sentence if it *appeared in some literature that they happened to be reading. My guess, however, is that these people rarely read.* Anyone *uninformed* enough to type in all caps is probably saying something completely ridiculous anyway. News flash: not all attention is good attention. Using all caps doesn't make me want to read the written diarrhea on the screen in front of me. All it does is make me want to find out who these people are, where they live, and *give them a consoling pat on the back. After all, they just can't help it*. I bet Terri Schiavo had more brain activity than *these poor unfortunate souls that are clearly not at fault for their own shortcoming, so let's just be extra-politically correct and treat these people like they're on the same level as the greatest minds of our times. We wouldn't want anyone to get their feelings hurt. That would just suck.*
Okay, that's probably enough ranting. I know I feel better, and I hope we've all learned a valuable lesson.^^
^Also known as text-speak. Even more appaling? Now the mass stupidity is being condoned. The only, and I really mean only time text-speak is okay with me is if you're that cute little girl from the Cingular commercial saying "idk...my bff jill?" Otherwise, *gosh, I don't know what to tell you. You can't be blamed for choosing to butcher the language that has been used to write some of the greatest literary works known to man, can you? Go ahead, carry on! While you're at it, have lots of children and teach them your ways! That'll definitely make the world a better place!*
^^Just in case you're one of those people with an IQ of around 80--hello, Mr. President--and you didn't get what the lesson is, it's very simple--*I'm not a nice person, and I should be reprimanded for expressing myself, while other people can write about how God hates gay people, how women deserve to be controlled by men, how killing civilians in other countries is okay because they look different than us, and how poor people just got what's coming to them with no repercussions.*
[Hooray for free speech everywhere!]




As I read and skimmed though this piece, I have to admit it made me laugh. Personally, I couldn't take the time to type out such a rant. I feel that acknowledgment of the activity is somehow giving it the attention it desires and thereby enforcing the behavoir.
I enjoyed, particularly, the Terri Schiavo comment.
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And there I go spelling acknowledgment wrong in the first post.
I think that its sad that you have to go all the way out to name calling. I believe that is more childish than miss spelling a few words here and there.
I also think that some of this was very wrong for you to say. I'm an honors student with a 3.47 GPA, took all honors english classes. But you know what? I have a 5th grade level of spelling. Yes, sad. But I never learned when I was little how to sound out words. I can't tell you the difference between e's, i's, and y's or o's and u's. The problem was never addressed because I always only used the words that I knew how to spell(from memory). So calling someone a 'brainless twit' or 'feeble-minded' for something that they may no longer have control over is pretty ****ed up. Trust me, I have tried to learn how to spell, but its hard to teach an old dog new tricks. And trust me, I do pull out the big old book but sometimes I sit here for 20 minutes tryig to find one simple word. I would use Microsoft word but my constant miss spelling has made it unable to check my spelling(yes, it is that bad).
So please, next time you must rant about something about someone else, think if you were on the other side of the post. You might find that you will be upsetting people that you didn't even tend to address.
For someone that claims they can't spell, you do it pretty well. I mean, the only things you misspelled that I can see are misspelled, and trying (but I think that one was just a typo).
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But like I said, I stay away from the words that I don't know.
I do that too, and for the words I can't think of an alternative for, I work on Firefox (spell check there), so I know if I'm misspelling it.
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hi,
i'll address the points you made as best i can.
1)regarding the "name-calling"...yes, i realize i come off a little harsh sometimes. i'm a strongly opinionated person and this is one of the only forums in which i have felt able to express my opinions; consequently, i use the language that i feel to be most appropriate to what i'm feeling at the time. i try not to swear to express myself, which i feel is more than i can say for some people. nevertheless, if i offended you i'm sorry. FYI, the moderators have asked me to edit the post and "tone down" the language, so you're basically going to get what you want in terms of me not being quite as "crass" as i suppose i seem. however, i don't feel that i'm being childish, i'm simply expressing myself the best way i know how, and that happens to be in a rather angry fashion. furthermore, i don't view the bad spellers and those ignorant of grammar to be "childish" i just view them to be...ignorant.
2)i've read your posts before, i think, and i've never seen anything bad enough to complain about, so i don't see why you would get insulted. besides, you said yourself that sometimes you do try to look the words up, which therefore excludes you from the category of people i'm addressing. for instance, i read a post tonight that was a full paragraph long (a rather lengthy paragraph, at that), featured ZERO punctuation, the use of the word "like" in literally every semblence of a sentence (there were no actual sentences since, as i said before, there was no punctuation), and in general just a lot of incoherent rambling. that's more what i was getting it, not at someone who writes intelligently with well-voiced opinions that makes a mistake every once in a while. i guess i should have been more clear about that. anyway, like i said, i've been asked to edit the post, so have no fear, because as i censor myself, you are getting what you want.
It's absolutely amazing that NCLB has helped you so much. It's amazing that seniors are allowed to graduate without a comprehensive understanding of the English language.
Spelling is an absolute necessity in the English-speaking world. I don't know how to break this to you, kimosabe, but you can't just aviod the words forever. Out of the 40000 words in the English language, it's unlikely that you should need more than half, but that doesn't mean you should just ignore the other half because you feel it to be "something that they may no longer have control over."
While, yes, she may have gone overboard with some of the cursing and name calling, you need to consider how ignorant you seem claiming to be unable to do anything about your spelling problem. I've been reading since pre-school, I'm sure that as a High School graduate you can do something to improve your situation.
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Actually a growing number of seniors nation-wide are graduating without the ability to read...
So her situation does not surprise me.
And a lot of honors programs assume you know the basics and therefore will not take the time to go over them again, so again, it makes sense to me.
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"Actually a growing number of seniors nation-wide are graduating without the ability to read...
So her situation does not surprise me.
Well it surprises me! How is it possible to graduate without an ability to read and write? Surely the word "graduate" is synonymous with the word "pass"?
Technically I was considered illiterate after sitting my final exams at high school. I scored 49.8% for English and missed out on a literacy requirement by 0.2%. In the sciences I scored well into the high 80's and low 90's.
Before I was allowed to even apply to go to university I had to resit the final English exam and score greater than 50%. Which I did... just.
However I live in Australia. It appears that things are very different in the US.
Although I don't classify myself as dumb or stupid, I am embarrassed by my inability to spell and punctuate correctly. As a result I constantly use http://www.dictionary.com to check my spelling. It is a shame that grammar is not as easy to check. :(
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Hi Cathii :) Long time no see and where the hell have you been?
Okay, onto the point; LOL
When I say it doesn't surprise me, it did when I first heard that people were passing without being able to read.
I always thought reading was fundamental; just easy and if you couldn't do it then you had to be completely stupid; that was when I was a much bigger snob than I am now.
But, after working in the school system, holy crap, the majority of teachers here suck! They will pass a student just to get them out of their hair. Sometimes out of laziness, and sometimes because they deem the child as a "problem child" and they never bother to check to see if the child actually understands everything.
I can't really blame the kid for being stupid if the teacher doesn't show any interest. But that was a concept that took me a long time to grasp. You know what I mean?
Then they started this "No Child Left Untested" crap that really doesn't do much except force the students to memorize a lot (and I mean a lot) of crap, some of which isn't even true (hence, why I've quit for now until I'm certified to teach at the University level)...
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I would like to put in here real fast that I have had a college level reading skill since I was in middle school. I can also write perfetly fine, if you don't believe that, please feel free to read a few of my blogs. I'm sure you will find that my writing skills are suitable for passing high school. I have also been published as a creative author at my high school and in national poetry magazines. I got a 25(75%) in the writting section on the ACT and a 26(84%) in the English section. Those two scores are plenty high to get into colleges.
Oh... and the NCLB, sorry, but it sucks. It just makes it harder for teachers to teach because students now have to take twice as many govermental required exams, which are really stupid, boring, easy, and take up 3 to 5 school days.
i think we can all see that your writing skills are just fine, as are mine.
the people addressed in my post are people whose writing is NOT fine. the occasional misspelling or typo, hey, it happens to the best of us. spelling every other word wrong, completely forgetting that the period and the comma exist, and writing inane bullplop that doesn't belong on line is what's not okay with me. especially because most of the people involved in this kind of chicanery think they're the smartest people ever to walk the earth. i just think that's wrong.
again, sorry for any misunderstandings my brusqueness might have caused, i was just being my sandpapery self--sometimes i rub people the wrong way.
--stacie
No one said you couldn't read...
What was said was in response to when a user said that they found it surprising that someone in her senior year of high school would still have a hard time spelling; and I pointed out that this didn't surprise me because there is a growing number of graduates in the country that aren't even able to read. You were definitely not included in that statistic...
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"Spelling is an absolute necessity in the English-speaking world." I really want to say something to this, but I'm not going to because you just had a slight typo here, hopefully...
And I have not had a singal proble avoiding the words. Just because I stay away from larger words most of the time does not hinder the tone of education in my writing. I see no use in using words in writing that people would not use in speech.
And I have tried to do many things about my spelling problem. I had an 8th grade teacher that tried so hard to help me and I spent at least an hour every night studing spelling words with my parents or by myself. The end result? If I was lucky enough, I would get a 60% on the test at the end of the week. It became discuraging when an 11 year old girl is used to getting straight As without studing, spending every night working on one thing and still only getting a D. My spelling has improved since then(for instance, today, I learned that you spell finger like that and not fingure). But I have to learn each word by itself because I have to creat the memory of how it looks with all the letters put together, instead of how the letters sound together.
Have your parents thought to look into the possibility that there might be a learning hindrance there, like maybe a slight case of dyslexia or something, that is keeping you from being able to use phonics?
You went to school in New Mexico, right?
I live near there; they really don't have a very good educational system anyway, to be honest. I watched as a teacher yelled(!) at a student in the third grade for spelling "the" as "tha" because that was the way it sounded for that particular reason. Then this same teacher yelled(!) at another student in the same class for always pronouncing "the" as "thee" because it was spelled with an "e".
They need some serious improvements. I remember reading in 2005 that they were rated as #50 nation-wide in national spelling and testing scores, and after witnessing this teacher in action I never questioned why.
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But I haven't been living here all my life(I realized last night that you only live 30 minutes away from, I figured you lived close from some things you said, but not THAT close, lol). KG-2nd grade, my family was living in Japan because my dad is in the nazy and that is where they stationed us. When I first started going to school, I didnt understand math at all, so they put me into a special math class. And then my reading went down the drain cause I couldnt look at words and sound them out, so they put me in a special reading class(the one with the special books... You know that all rhyme ex The cat(picture of a cat) had a hat(picture) and loved his baseball bat(picture).) I have never had a problem with math since then, in fact I finished my math classes for high school my sophmore year. I can now look at words and sound them out, so my readng is just fine. But my spelling problem was never addressed there, and once I moved here, I no longer had any problems, according to them.... Except when my 8th grade teacher told the whole class that Im a shitty speller and should have never been able to pass the 5th grade.
wow, that's extremely harsh. if i ran your school and found out about that i would've severely reprimanded that teacher. jeez.
--stacie
I have a serious problem with math; dyscalculia. I've always done really well in every other subject, but I can't understand math at all. I'd stay up all night working on a single assignment only to turn it in and receive a bright red F. I get the numbers backwards, can't remember the formulas, can't remember without visual assitance which way is left and which is right. It's incredibly frustrating. My algebra teacher in high school always made me feel like a complete moron because I just didn't understand it. I even begged and pleaded to be put in a remedial math class but because I was in gifted and talented education classes (GT) in every other subject, she refused to allow it. I failed. Twice. And she thought it was perfectly acceptable to bring it up to the class at every opportunity. People like her and your 8th grade teacher just shouldn't be in the teaching field. It's those types that add to the problem instead of helping solve it.
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My chemistry teacher, Mr. George Povich (because I'm not above naming names), did the same thing to me. I did not understand chemistry AT ALL. I studied so hard, and never got it. Whenever I tried to ask a question in class, he would ridicule me and accuse me of stalling. He'd say things like, "There's no way you don't understand this. Everyone in this class understands this but you. Are you proud to be failing this class?" Which, of course, made me stop asking questions. I tried going after school to get help, and he'd have the classroom locked. I could see him in there, and he wouldn't answer the door when I knocked. I tried this three or four afternoons before I finally gave up. My friends saw how awful he was to me, so they tried to help me in study hall, but I just DID NOT get it, so they just did my homework for me, all the while walking me through each formula. The only way I passed was because someone else did my homework. I failed everything I attempted on my own. It makes more sense to me now, but I have been so conditioned to fear chemistry that I avoid it like the plague.
Whew! That was cathartic!
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I have dyscalculia, too, Fallon. Soon (when I am off my physical disability topics) I plan to write about it. I can fully understand your frustration at trying to do math and teachers who felt compelled to publicly bring it up. I'm sorry they did that.