I just don't understand.

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I just don't understand.
Why do most white/caucasian people always want to bring up issues that don't exist? Why is it that when a race debate is opened the first thing they do is bring up the things blacks have and whites don't? They are always saying well you have Black History Month. They say you have BET. They say you have colleges, scholarships and whatnot.
Do they not understand why those things were created? If not maybe they need to do a little more research. They always say blacks hate them or blacks don't try to befriend them. Ok even though blacks are mean to whites, blacks are still not as mean as the whites' ancestors were to ours.
Why do they just focus it towards blacks?? There are lots of things offered to people of all minorities! HELLO!!
I also want to know why was Martin Luther King, Jr. Day changed to King/Lee Holiday in the some parts of the nation? That's stupid! That just gives blacks more reasons to dislike whites. Whites do some racially biased things that make black more & more furious.
I am not racist nor prejudice. I have never discriminated against someone. But I have been discriminated against. I have never judged someone on appearance but I have witnessed it. Most times blacks are judged based on their appearance.
I just hope people will stop focusing on what other people have and be thankful for what they do have!

Yeah, my white ancestors treated blacks terribly when they first arrived to the U.S. I won't deny that. I can understand many of the things, such as black history month, etc. But the scholarship/affirmitive action thing? Just doesn't work for me. I heard someone once say that even though slavery was evil, even if his ancestors had not been brought over as slaves, he would not be in the position he was today. African-americans have a lot of oppurtunities today, and if we never had slaves, they would most likely never had had those oppurtunities. Their ancestors most likely would have stayed in Africa- a continent that seems to not be getting any forward motion at all. Of course, there were freed blacks here during that time, but not as many slaves.

I'm not trying to justify slavery or anything- I believed it was aweful, evil, and rightfully outlawed. I'm just trying to put a positive spin on an otherwise negative thing.

Stormy

I'm not sure glossing over a very real and still current problem is the best way to handle it. It seems you're making light of the adversity that the majority of African-Americans have had to struggle with. The fact of it is that "a day in the life" is not just filled with daisies and bling. I had quite a few problems with MY (older white male) supervisors in the military who automatically looked at the few African-American and Hispanic guys who worked for me as trouble-makers, when they had done nothing wrong. Once one of my guys came to me almost in tears because he was so mad because as he passed by another superior, that superior called him over and started berating him for being "up to no good."

It wasn't blatantly about the color of their skin, but most times it did come down to cultural differences and discrimination.

Jsaj's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

The reason people talk about those institutions, like any minority only institution, is not because whites don't have it, but because we can't have them. Can you imagine the outrage if someone made a white-only scholarship? Or if there was a White History month?

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

Ok... I'm so sick of those questions being asked. Can you please come up with a better reason? Every white person I have ever had this conversation with asks those questions!

White-Only Scholarship?? How many whites do you know struggling to make it versus minorities? Minorities account for the lowest incomes in America. Whites make more money than blacks. And even now (according to the latest research) Hispanics make more than blacks. So of course they are going to allow blacks an easier chance to get an education. But aren't there scholarships for everyone out there????

White History Month?? More like white history year! I attend a public school and in my U.S. History class we probably spend 1 week (out of 9 mos.) talking about blacks. The rest is about Whites and Indians. If we didn't have black history month the only thing you'd probably know about blacks is what you learn in school. It's so much more to it than that. Whites get the recognition they deserve every day.

Jsaj's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

"White-Only Scholarship?? How many whites do you know struggling to make it versus minorities?"
One important one comes to mind. Me. I am from a pretty poor family. Got crap financial aid. And the amount of scholarships that are closed off to me because I am not a minority, a woman, disabled, or come with a sap story is ridiculous. And, all those people who also get those scholarships can also apply to everything I do.

In Western civilization, that history deals mostly with Caucasians, yes. So what? If you were taking an African History class and they did a switcheroo and spent a month focusing on whites in Africa, there would be such an uproar...

"Whites get the recognition they deserve every day."
Some do. Some don't. The same is true with African Americans. Oh, and is their an Asian history month? Hispanic history month? Jewish history month? Name a hundred other minorities that get by without a month. And, of course, if any, not just whites actually, were given one, people would be very upset.

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

Ok for every 1 struggling white family there is probably about 6 struggling black families.
Well if they really wanted to focus on blacks, they could find the time. They should offer African Studies in more high schools.
BTW please do your research. There is a Hispanic Heritage Month (September 15-October15), Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month (May), and Jewish-American Heritage Month(May)! (All which seem to be longer than Black History Month.) So apparently you don't even care because you don't even know about them. Please do your research.

Jsaj's picture
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As for those months, yes they exist. Have you ever seen anyone making a big deal out of any of them. From the heart of NYC, the only month mentioned is African American. Maybe it's just me....
Offering African Studies in high school is a very nice idea. Perhaps, instead of wasting money on meaningless fanfare, they can deal with those months.
As for your numbers, I'm skeptical. Why? Because there are a lot more whites than blacks in this country. And suffering is hard to measure statistically. But that is besides the point! Focus on all of the poor families, the suffering families, the broken families. Don't look at the ethnicity, but rather the situation.

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

It's not just you. It's everyone in America. Because Black History Month is the oldest recognized minority history month, it is given lots of attention everywhere. I think more people should start promoting all minority history months.
"Focus on all of the poor families, the suffering families, the broken families. Don't look at the ethnicity, but rather the situation."
I do agree with that.

Jsaj's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

I think we seem to be debating a very small issue, the rest being dead weight that gets in the way.
The issue, as I see it, is whether or not seemingly positive discrimination, such as black history month or whatnot, is in fact positive. I am of the opinion that it is not because it serves almost as a sort of "poor you" thing. "Poor you", we'll give you a _______. Fill in the blank. My problem is the fact that there are actually poor you's out there, regardless of ethnicity, who deserve the help, rather than a not quite-so-poor you who gets the help only because of ethnicity.

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

Can you imagine the outrage if someone made a white-only scholarship? Or if there was a White History month?

i totally agree with that statemen. I understan that yes in the history there were slaves and yea tehy were tortured, but i really dont hink this is hppening anymore. And yes tehy are still some discrimination but not like black and hispanic peopkle dont discriminate white people.

When i wa 12 i went to a school in Chicage and there were only 3 white pople including me, band i do believe that i was discriminated againt alo. And now i am in hight school and my school is very diverse and i honestly dotn see any discrimination. I have friedns from all kinds of countries, black, white, mexican, indian... I think if its all people are mised togethr in the environment there is more likely to be discrimination.

Jsaj's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

A few suggestions for you.
One, when quoting someone, use quotation marks, or blockquote. (The html is under the text box.
Two, spellcheck. Bad spelling makes it harder to read you write.
Three, use the reply button when you're replying directly to someone else's comment.

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

My ancestors didn't even come to the US until after slavery was abolished. Don't go lumping all whites together just because we have the same color skin. I'd also like to point out that there was white support for the abolition of slavery, else it would have been far bloodier than it was.

You are also disregarding the fact that there are plenty of people living in poor socio-economic classes. They're not only black... they're white, hispanic, and asian as well. But, as it turns out, those with colored skin (except maybe asians) are more likely to be looked favorably upon when they try to make something of themselves.

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I do have to say that it really sucks to come from a poor white family. There are scholarships I can apply to, but all the minorities can apply to them as well. And even though the people who select the scholarship recipients shouldn't have a biased opinion, I'm sure they feel obligated to chose a minority so no one questions them.

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KrisanMD's picture

I believe it is and it isn't fair for whites in todays society. I mean, we all know that whites treated minorities very poorly during slavery and other times in history, but that wasn't ME. I am paying for what other peoples ancestors did, I know mine didn't own slaves because they were extremely poor Scottish and Irish immigrants, and I have checked our family records and traced as far back as Scotland and Ireland. So tell me, why should I suffer for something other white people did hundreds of years ago?

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CCBauman's picture

So true!!

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