First off I would like to say I have nothing against Jewsish people.
This week, on the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah, all of the Jewish kids got out of school. Which is understandable, seeing that Christians get out for Christmas and Easter.
But is is really fair that the Jewish people (at that anyother religious/nonreligios people) also get out for these holidays? Christians and Muslims and all of the other religious and nonreligios people don't get out for Rosh Hashanah or any other Jewish holidays.
My argument has nothing to do with the fact of getting out of school. In fact I enjoy school.
And these religios holidays have become materialistic to some people, days built in to the year where we get out of school. Rarely did I hear that the Jewish people that got out of school went to the services.
Christmas has also become materialistic to some, a day where we receive gifts.
If we are going to celebrate the holiday, we should be allowed out of school. And obviously the Christmas break shouldnt last so long.
In fact, the district that I go to school in has had to change the name from Christmas break to Winter Break due to this. There is no Hanukkah Break, and Hannukkah is indeed a longer holiday than Christmas!
GOD BLESS
In public school, at least where I come from (NY), these are days off. If you are not going to make High Holidays, when religious Jews won't use electronics or write or do a variety of other things in addition to the fact that they are supposed to be in Shul most of the day, then you're going to have to expect them to cut. Oh, and I assure you, besides a good meal (with the exception of Yom Kippur, where you have to fast) these holidays are not materialistic.
Most schools get off for Christmas because it is likely that most students in the schools are Christian. That is a choice up to the State, as far as public schools go.
I don't know any Islamic holiday other than Rhammadan(?), but I imagine the reason you don't tend to get off for that is because it is a month long and it tends to bounce around the year because of the nature of the Islamic Lunar Calendar (which doesn't use leap years).
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
and you do know that Ramadan is the whole month but did not know that the actual holiday is-- EID AL FITR and now you know
One day that we celebrate the end of the month of ramadan and yes it falls on different every year, just like Rosh Hashanah
but we don't get off I remember having mid terms and tests on Eid
but i took the day off and it was marked as an excused absence but yeah, I had this bone to pick too
but i said what the heck--- the majority of this coutry is Christian so it does not seem right to fight for an Islamic holiday
especially in today's times
and the jewish ( truthfully) have a lot of money and political clout in todays worlds and they have a history of being the victim of persecution and discrimination so they understandably want their holidays to be accepted and respected
Edited to add that there are two Eids, one after Ramadan and one a month and half after Ramadan
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
I confess that I don't know much about Islamic holidays.
I am aware of the fact that Jews probably have more political power than Muslims in this nations.
I do suspect that the reason EID AL FITR isn't given a day off is because of it's length. I imagine. once again, I don't know, that there are other holidays on the Islamic calendar. I do think it would be right to give a day off for them.
As for the Calendars, there is a difference in the style of the Hebrew and Islamic Calendar. The biggest gap change for the date of a Jewish Holiday on the standard calendar is a month, because every four years, a month is added.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Ramadan is a month long and when we stop our 30 days of keeping a fast(from sunrise to sunset on each day)
we celebrate that ONE day at the end of Ramadan and that day is called Eid Al Fitr (the first time i put it in caps to get attention) and yah, i totally am okay if people don't know
i just wish people would care to know and learn and not actually want to stay in the dark
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
Well, I think that the one day should totally be a day off from school. I am of the opinion that Public Schools should give all major days off or none, of make some sort of formula so they don't discriminate.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
i know it sucks doesn't it but-.my people (the ones who are Muslim) are now never going to stand up mostly because they are just happy that they are allowed to live here and work here and that their kids can go to school in US
they are scared shitless - and it is sad but it also angers me that they think it is okay to let people walk all over you and your religious beleifs
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
Well, that's the Land of Opportunity for ya.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
it has been called the Golden Mountain or something too (by Asians in the past) or something
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
Yes, their holiday last a month, but Christmas last a total of two days (including Christmas Eve.
and we get at least 3 or 4 weeks off for it.
When I was in high school and below, I got maybe 2 weeks off for it... and that was mostly because it was the end of the semester, and we needed a break. We got off for New Years in there as well.
Now, in college, we get a full month off between the semesters. But our semester ends like December 15th, because that's 16 school weeks after the start of the school. We have a month off between all our semesters, including between spring and summer and summer and fall.
~C
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At my public school, Jews just had to cut on those days. Of course, they weren't really religious, so on one day... I think it was the first day of passover... one of the Jewish people in my class came back to school for the second half of the day because he felt that he couldn't miss that class, even for the holiday.
But yeah, approximately 14 days throughout the year (not including shabbos), Jews are not supposed to do work. That includes using electricity, writing, tying knots, sewing, riding in a car, etc. So, it's understandable that those kids get out of class for those holidays (the biggest ones, of course, being Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, and Passover, but Succot comes fairly close behind those).
If the school was truly being equal opportunity, they would just build those days in as days off for everyone, but since there are so many of them, especially in September/October (2 days for Rosh Hashanah, 1 for Yom Kippur, 4 for Succot and associated holidays), teachers may feel like they're losing too much class time. And you know, people tend to raise a fuss if the beginning of winter break falls too close to Christmas or the end falls too close to New Years.
I know some private schools, though, that give most of October off, and then have school straight through Christmas and the New Year (I think getting New Year's Eve and New Year's Day off, but mostly because finals started right after them), and take their winter break at the end of January.
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My friend goes to a Yeshiva. was incredible. He had school 2 days in October.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Where at? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to disclose the location publicly. I just remember you mentioning NY at one point, so I'm curious :-)
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