Attack on Christianity due to Satan and Posers

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Does anyone else feel like Christianity is being attacked?  I mean. . .like.  .. REALLY attacked. I feel like it's the only religion that is ever given any thought. You would think that all religions would be attacked because all of them have different views. If you're a Christian then you're automatically a bad person. .. you're closed minded and no fun.  As a Christian, I find this to be sOo frustrating.  I mean think about it. .. it's always

Creationism vs. EVERYTHING ELSE

Jesus vs. EVERYTHING ELSE

etc. . .

Why is everything accepted except Jesus?  It makes sense in a way though.  I mean, Christ is the only way to salvation so it makes sense that it would be the only thing that is attacked.  Satan already has control over everything else.  Why are Christians thought of so poorly though?  There is so much hate and angst against it when lots of people have no idea what it's about.  I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that Christians are watched so closely to see if they live up to what they talk about.  The problem is that we are all imperfect beings so we can't ever practice everything we preach.  If we could then we wouldn't need salvation from Jesus.  But when people see us "fall"  they assume that we are posers and we are no better than everyone else.  They say that we are on our "high horse" and we can't have any fun.  People expect us to be perfect and we're just not.  And some people are Sunday Christians and they give the real followers of Christ a bad name.  I can feel this "war" everywhere. Everytime I watch the news or read a newspaper, walk into a highschool, read a blog, or listen to music.  It's always there.  Why is it that when people get mad they always yell out the name of the Christian God?  You never hear anyone yell "AWW BUDDHA!" or "CONFUSCIOUS!", "MOHAMMAD" etc. . .It's always the Christian God and I find that to be very curious.  Any thoughts?

I don't know anyone who is upset with ALL Christians, nor upset with Jesus. Just upset with people who stuff the bible down their throat. Read my blog "Christian Conservatives = Taliban" That should explain the difference that your looking for.

crystalshardz89's picture

Aww how very concieted of you.

Now...just to let you know, I am a atheist, but I used to be a christian. I went to christian school from preschool to fourth grade, went to church, the whole nine yards.

Christianity isn't really the problem. It's people like Pat Robertson that piss me and other people off. Even his good ol' pal George Bush......

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"When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. `What do you mean?' the media challenged me. `You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?' My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.'" --from Pat Robertson's "The New World Order," page 218

"The mission of the Christian Coalition is simple," says Pat Robertson. It is "to mobilize Christians -- one precinct at a time, one community at a time -- until once again we are the head and not the tail, and at the top rather than the bottom of our political system." Robertson predicts that "the Christian Coalition will be the most powerful political force in America by the end of this decade." And, "We have enough votes to run this country...and when the people say, 'We've had enough,' we're going to take over!"--Pat Robertson

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/8/92

"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."-- George Bush

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Do you see what your religious leaders say about others?
They are prejudice. It's not a lie, it's a fact. And those quotes are the back bone of that fact. Men, or anyone who wants to make our country believe their religion shouldn't be in power. THIS IS AMERICA.

I must give credit for those quotes though. I found them at this site:

http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/7027/patrobertson.html

you will have to excuse me for being left quite upaet over you statement You seem to leave out quotes like those from Howard Dean saying We are sick of christians trying to run things and wi are going to take back this country for the liberals and kick there God out of everything. And there are thousand of simular comments made by the liberal every day, but thats ok isn't it. We as christians want our country cleaned up and made safe for our children and our great grand children. If you would check your facts you would find out that this country was formed on biblical principles and did quite well for many many years it wasn't until the liberlism began to st in that we began to go down hill. from crime to education. I'm sorry if the truth of the bible offends you but you already live by some of it's oprinciples any way. It is all over the atiquated court system. Thou shalt not Kill, thou shalt not steal.ect. I'm sorry if Love thy nieghbor as thy self bends you out of controle but I for one intend to continue to do everything in my power to uphold these old values that have worked over and over again for cnturies.

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(1) Could you provide a link to the Howard Dean quote you allude to. I don't think what you said is an accurate quote.

(2) Do you REALLY think that only Christians want this country to be safe for their children? In fact, can you provide a link to anybody saying that they DON'T want their country to be safe for their children?

(3) This country was formed on SECULAR principles. The founding fathers knew full well the problems of countries that were run on religious dogma. Witch trials lasted up to the early 1700's. That is why they included in the Constitution the first amendment forbidding the Government from aiding or hindering religions.

(4) The "truth of the bible" is all too often an oxymoron. I have written many blogs documenting numerous falsehoods in the bible.

(5) Can you come up with a society at ANY time in history that thought murder and theft of its citizenry was a good thing? By the way I CAN come up with several biblical references where God does advocate murder. In my mind the most serious one is the Noachian flood.

(6) I'll bet you have bought many more vehicles for yourself than you have for your neighbors. In practical terms how is "love thy neighbor as thyself" any different than "respect you neighbors rights as you do your own" which is pretty much the rule for all societies?

(7) It is good that you uphold those values you mentioned. Just don't get on high horse thinking that Christians invented them or even worse that only Christians advocate them.

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If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. - Anatole France

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"You never hear anyone yell "AWW BUDDHA!"or "CONFUSCIOUS!", "MOHAMMAD" etc."

That's because those people are not God and are not viewed as such in those religions.

Like the person above, I only dislike people like Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps, George Bush. I don't agree with the religion, but I don't hate people just for being Christian. I think many people just get so bombarded with hypocritical Christians that they think all are like that. Kind of like people do with Muslims, Mexicans, and Gays.

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The reason that the name of Christ is so attacked is because it is the only truth. No one would bother to attack an outright lie; at least I can't think of many who would so adamantly continue (throughout all of history) to do so. The message of Christ continues to be so heavily persecuted because it is real, it is deep, it is true. We just simply have to live strong and stand firm in our faith. We are certainly not perfect, but God calls us to lean on Him for wisdom and understanding. Hang in there, friend.
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People do attack outright lies. I don't know of anyone who would attack a true principle throughout the course of history without failure. Not too long ago, the bible was being used to back up slavery, oppression of women, and wearing skirts. My question: What is the message of christ? have you actually read the bible? Most christians that I've asked this question haven't, but they are very good at spitting out what the preacher said last week.

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The name of christ is attacked because his followers so often cram his teachings down to the rest of the world as THE ONLY TRUTH and expect that the rest of the world should come to their knees. Every religion thinks it is the only truth; it is like a demon that demands complete allegiance or the spell of its supremacy is broken. Too many weak links and the myth disintegrates and it threatens the foundation of the believers.

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I agree. I couldn't have said it better myself. It's like everyone wants an all-or-none following and acceptance of their view.
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"You never hear anyone yell "AWW BUDDHA!" or "CONFUSCIOUS!", "MOHAMMAD" etc. It's always the Christian God and I find that to be very curious."

1) Buddhists believe in reincarnation not a supreme being, deity or God like Christians, Jews, etc.
2) Mohammad was a prophet, Muslims don't worship him, like you worship your God (ie; the father, son and holy spirit) they do have Allah, which is God...possibly the same one as yours ;-)
3) It might be your Truth but it's not all of ours.

Interesting story awhile ago, on 20/20 with the Dali Llama, the reporter asked "What if we could prove the reincarnation wasn't true?" and he said "Then we'll stop teaching it, but can you prove it?" This is my favroite quote, like I said in other blogs you cannot prove without a doubt that your religion is right, to the masses it's not possible. You can say they are indenial but it's based on faith and we have faith in different things.

And it seems as though you are belittling anything else thats not the same as yours (although I'd like to think its not intentional, I hope it isn't), but really you should try worshiping at a Hindu temple, or a mosque...you'll find out you'll have more in common than you thought, just different ways of doing it. :-)

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Allie_the_Neko's picture

I was raised Christian. I went to church every Sunday, went to Vacation Bible School every summer, and have been in a religious school my entire life. And guess what?

I'm out & proud. I'm agnostic. I question EVERYTHING. I'm a feminist.
I'm basically everything I was taught NOT to be. And it all began because I saw no reason why I should hate someone because they're not Christian, or because they were gay or black, or why women should not be allowed to work or speak in church.

No, people shouldn't hate Christians. No one should hate anyone. But, in the words of Saint Francis de Sales, "If you expect respect, be the first to show it."

astarachaos's picture

Ok excuse the pun there but I loved your comment and how you so nicely added the quote at the end. Its hard for me to hate a gay person or a black person when my best guy friend in the world is gay and most of the girls I know are black. Personally when your mom is irish and your dads japanese it a bit hard to be prejudice.

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You took the words right out of my mouth! And I think we had the same childhood. And Lutheran schools made me agnostic. I got A's in religion, but I guess I missed something.

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To create an awareness and understanding one might not receive any (respect) from certain individuals one might cross, while remaining it yourself, is indeed an intelligent way to move around in life.

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"You never hear anyone yell "AWW BUDDHA!" or "CONFUSCIOUS!", "MOHAMMAD" etc. . .It's always the Christian God and I find that to be very curious. "
First and foremost, Budda, Confuscious, and Mohammad were not gods but men. So to yell at them would be like saying "Aww Bob!"
Secondly, if people can argue that the God in the pledge refers to all Gods than I would like to say that when I yell "God" I refer to all Gods.
"I am a Stephens Woman."

saint_o_nothing's picture

Umm. Just to ask. What about the Muslims. People are in utter fear of the Muslims because of thier religion and you say that Christians are the ones being mistreated. Christians go to other countries looking for a fight and trying to get people to drop all of thier beliefs because they said so... look around there are churches on every street corner. You guys have a huge music genre, whole clubs, lots of little televison shows about your faith and you say your being persocuted...ahh blah

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...put my 2 cents worth in here.

I am what you might call a non-denominational christian. I dont call myself a christian per say but I do believe there is a god or some supreme being. I was raised Southern Baptist and Bhudist, so my beliefs sway from those and some others of religions I have studied. I do believe in creationism, and I also believe in some things of the bible. But what I am about to say is something you may not think you would hear from someone like me. What people dislike about Christians is that most of them are hypocrits. The preach about how you shouldnt do this and that and how your going to H--L for different things you do in your life....oh and I love the one where they say that if your not a christian you wont go to heaven as if you cant be any other god worshiping religion because if its not "Christianity" its not a religion. It pisses me off to hear about these things and then there are these liberals that want to change it to where a kid cant even pray at lunch time or he will get suspended. What kind of crap is that? They want to take religion out of schools and other places and soon there will be no religion allowed and possibly the anialation of churches and temples. You know why? Because there are probably those who have had "Christians" come to them and try to force thier beliefs on them. So now they figure if they can keep religion out of schools, then children wont be doing that to thier children. Let me ask you something...how would you like it if someone who was muslim tried to shove thier beliefs down your throat? What would you do? The same thing they are doing to you...attacking your beliefs. So before you go calling the kettle black, look at yourself first.

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Rest in peace
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True Christians do not force do not force their faith on anybody. This forcing Christianity on people started with the Emperor Constantine forcing soldiers to be baptized.

The History of the Christian church is the most ugly and horrific thing that you could come up with.

That being said. Christianity as presented in CS Lewis's mere Christianity is the most reasonable form of faith.

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If Faith can be considered reasonable at all

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Rest in peace

reasons for faith that apply to all faith.
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Are needs in the human Psyche. We need faith for validation and things like that, beyond that there is no reason to have religion
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Rest in peace
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oppressive. Reasons for faith have to do with honest intellect, not validation needs.

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Are you really saying that intellectual people go to faith or Christianity really because it is the most reasonable thing out there. Christianity is believing that there is a Super man in the sky that will take all your problems away because you asked him to and that if you bow and lower yourself before him on all fronts that he might let you into his perfect palace to be with him forever. Now i know god is not thought of as a superhero but in all likely hood what makes him any more believable than Superman. How can you say that Honest Intellect play a role in faith. Faith is putting your first foot out with your eyes closed hoping to get lucky
Sai. I guess the most intellectual of people like to gamble alot.
And i am honestly not saying that people who are christian are just stupid im saying that intellect plays no part in Faith
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Not so long ago more over than 4 million women got brutally murdered for one reason only!

Because they verbally manifested their “I am” intuition into the open!

For this reason only they got labeled with the tag of “witch”.

The biggest enemy of religion is the presence or manifestation of thought other than their own doctrine.

Because personal “I am” thought affects the structure of religious mental suppression and enslavement.

One way only, their way or the Satan way, which of course boils down to the very exact same thing, religion being both the creator and Satan which they project, create and build around one’s illusion of reality.

Faith other than in your own self, is the way to step inside an illusion (prison)!

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I AGREE
i full heartedly agree
the most powerful being is a man with full confidence of his own righteousness.

"Because personal “I am” thought affects the structure of religious mental suppression and enslavement."

thank you

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Rest in peace
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is the satan way....satan is an illusion of reality God is not an illusion. religion is an illusion.

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With the sole purpose to make one look outside and “away of oneself”, in order to make one feel “lost and guilty”, to put and leave one to wonder upon a narrow path filled with doubt, like a flower having to grow in darkness...

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Rest in peace
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If Jesus Christ is the intellectual focus and not religion it becomes a different discussion and faith is not forced on anyone.

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“if”, which is surely not the case inside this rant.

To project thoughts upon others is exactly the hatefully inspired intent which is taking place here.

@_@

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Rest in peace
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wombels's picture
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Christians and Muslims are dwelling in a same pattern of organized mind control or better say abuse!

A worshipper is unaware of his personal self-awareness of “I” identity, since it is been undermined by the use of fear.

In order to lure people inside this bubble of fear, religion creates a wonderful image of emotional overwhelming magic first to provide one with that feeling of union and safety (peace of mind).

Once ones “mindset” is inside this magical box, religion comes up with a presentation of what is outside and endangering this magical reality (illusion) one is experiencing.

This is the moment when the clouding of one’s vision starts to kick in!
Listen, all is fine and good, but do listen carefully, in order to maintain this magic you need to do this, never ever do that, try it this way, it works great like this, read this, see that, don’t step on that, don’t ask that question, keep quiet and do it,.....or else, burn in HELL!!!

Doctrine actually molds one’s mind into an obedience by using a readymade concept, this concept is one of limitation, because all of religions main goal are to keep all limited in thought!

To do this is simple, they only have to limit ones choice by adding an illusionary one.

The (mirror) trick is to make one believe “he has” a choice in the first place, so the illusionary option which is been pushed forward is the choice between this or that, right and wrong, good and bad.

One choice available is in direct accordance with the wishes, guidelines and rules of the doctrine, while the other choice actually pushes one down the mind cliff straight into the burning flames hell.

Religions goals have always been to make sure none uses its mind in order to think outside the doctrine (box) they have created around one’s “I”.

For anyone to come to a self-realization of who he/she really is needs to be tackled by all means possible. An individual which opens up more options in order to make a choice becomes an immediate liability within the structure and needs to be addressed accordingly.

In order to get this done (fixed), doctrine need to inflict trauma upon and around people lives, the way upon which they proceed with this in 2008 is not much different than during times of the inquisition.

To inflict and stir up fear, brings hate to arise, hate is a powerful weapon (tool) in order to start a war or genocide. It is amazingly easy to point it at a certain segment in our societies, one only needs to point out a difference which is referred to as being negative, fuel it up until it receives enough focus and attention. Thoughts which will build around what’s taking place will do the rest!

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I was shocked at how accurately your description of religious indoctrination captures my childhood. That is exactly how it worked in my grade school through high school religion classes! Jesus loves the little children, but if they slip up, look out! Hellfire forever! Don't worry about anything, just stay on our team! As long as you are on our team, god will provide! But if you leave our team, look out! Suffering! Disease! Poverty! Hellfire!

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That's how all of my early experiences with religion were, too. I lived in the middle of the Bible belt, which wasn't exactly a place full of logical thinkers.

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To inflict and stir up fear, brings hate to arise, hate is a powerful weapon (tool) in order to start a war or genocide. It is amazingly easy to point it at a certain segment in our societies, one only needs to point out a difference which is negative, fuel it up when until it receives enough focus and attention. Thoughts which will build around
what’s taking place will do the rest!
-Wombels

Sounds like a good ol' case of the Hitlers
Look at John Edwards and the tale of the Crucible. These people used Fear and Religion as key weapons to take care of thier own agenda. McCarthy did the same thing during the Red Scare it's plain monstarous

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I accidentally posted it twice and now i can't delete it
oh and i spelled Monsterous wrong...
[-(

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This platform is well monitored, someone will come and clean up (fix) the monstrous mess you created,

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