Hearing Racism on the Radio

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Listening to the Howard Stern radio channel today I heard a surprising amount of racist comments from one of the crew. The man explained how he’d been talking to his father about Barack Obama (oh boy, here we go). His father pointed out something that truly bothers me. Since Barack is considered “Half black/half white”, the father asked, “Who do you think he’ll be loyal to?(meaning the white or black population). Just look at his wife!” Apparently Barack has a black wife, so this means he’ll always favor blacks over whites? Oh come on people.

This was one of many racial comments that came out of this guys mouth, and I’d like to take a break from quoting him to interject some of my own opinions. First of all, should we really care that Barack Obama is “half black/half white”? That’s just as racist as individualizing him for being “just black”. Second of all, he has the right to marry whomever he chooses. Just because the woman happens to be black doesn’t mean he’s “choosing blacks over whites”. Does personality and intelligence mean nothing to anyone anymore, or have we been reduced to simply loving a person based on skin color? In that case, I should have a boyfriend.

The annoying racism continued. The man talked about how Barack didn’t marry an American, so he won’t favor Americans. Whoa, hold on there. Are black people no longer citizens of this country? This is a completely unfair statement. “African Americans” he said, were apparently separate from plain old everyday Americans? How racist can you get?

Then Robin, one of the main people of the show who just happens to be a black woman, said, “Would you vote for me as President?” and he said, “No, but not because you’re black. Because you’re a woman.” On top of racism, he piles on sexism. This guy is just digging a hole he won’t be able to climb out of again. If he had his own show, his nickname would be Imus.

It is astounding to me that racism is so rampant in this day and age. It is an epidemic for which there is no discernable cure. Sure, maybe a few people can be shown that their beliefs are unfounded, but what about the others? Racism is being handed down through the generations, polluting new minds with the well springs of hate. Why not hand down acceptance and understanding?

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Howard Stern is just shock radio. You can't take anything you hear on it seriously.

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He does influence people's thinking, and not in a healthy, productive way.

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The news portion is good, but the rest is for the most part "shock radio".

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    Yeah, Howard Stern is just a shock jock. You can't take him seriously. He makes money by making people angry.

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    Where are the people who called out don imus right about now?

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    Wow it amazes me that they left him on the air to cause that much PR damage. Some people like him are just well to put it in nicer terms idiots. I think America is one of the few if not only countries that cares so much about race. I like the way other countries do it they call themselves Cuban instead of black, white, or any other race. They have no races and I find it personally better and fascinating.

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    Wow I cant believe that people are still so hung up about his race, I mean if he wasn't bacl they wouldn't even be talking about him, People shouldent be worried about what color or sex the next US president will be but about how they are going to help improve this country.

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    Ditto ( a phrase I hardly use, but seems appropriate here). I once mentioned to my dad that I wish the candidates could not be seen until elected. Let their convictions and ideals separate them, not what they look like.

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    Stern obviously operates by shocking his viewers into continually listening, its a business whether or not it is offenseve, yet I would not go that far to call it racist.

    What he does bring up though is how Barrack's supporters are relatively unaware of his mixed race. He is known as the "Black" candidate but he is just as much white. I believe this is where the real racism lies. why not run as the candidtate with "mixed backrounds"? the reason is because he is taking advantage of his race for political gains. He needs to be black to attract votes, its as simple as that.

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    I understand where you're going with the rest of that comment, but the first paragraph was a little off. It wasn't Stern who was saying racist comments, it's on of the other random host-type figures on that show.
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    Barrack can only ever live the experience of a Black person. He is "known as the Black candidate" because a person who's half Black and half White is viewed as Black in this country. It's the one drop rule that has carried over into the modern era. EVERYBODY knows that Barrack is half White, it's no secret.

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    I'm not very well informed on the political side of things right now, so I wasn't aware that Barrack was half-white for quite a while. Anyway, it surprises me sometimes how racist we can be. In the past it was worse, of course. You were "black" if you had one great great grandparent that was black.

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    Since it now seems that you are getting informed you might as well know the rest of the story about Obama's ethnic/racial heritage.

    On his mother's side, he is descended from white slave owners.

    On his father's side he is descended from a recent immigrant from Kenya. He has no ancestral ties to American slavery unless his father's ancestors were among those black Africans who was engaged in the trade of selling other Africans into slavery.

    So like the rest of us white people, he is (or should be) burdened by perpetual guilt that can never be washed away no matter how many years we are subjected to the reverse discrimination of affirmative action or how many years we have passed since our ancestors fought and died in a gruesome war to end slavery.

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    Kenya, huh? That's right...didn't Obama wear some sort of ancestral robe (i know that's not correct, so excuse my stupidity) to a speech?

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    No, he just was wearing traditional clothing of an African country, I am not even sure if it was Kenya, but it could have been. He was just experiencing/taking part in another culture.

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    stern has those people on his show for the same purpose

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    I suppose you could say that. I mean, they can get away with a heck of a lot on that show.

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    Why is one half of your heritage more important than the other?

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    In Obama's case, one half is more visible than the other. Because his skin color is different from the majority, he is classified as only black (in a lot of minds). Many of the people who feel this way also believe his skin color nullifies his validity as a candidate. We have a long way to go.

    Yes, he's the black candidate, because he is the first who has any noticeable black blood in his line. He is not exploiting his ethnicity to win votes. His ethnicity is exploited by opponents and dissenters as a liability.

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    Obama would be an unknown if he wasn't half black. Americans feel obligated to vote for him becuase they think it will make us more politically correct. this will be denied repeatedly, but I ask you this: what has he done in the past to prove his eligability?

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    In today's political climate, that is all one need be. I don't believe the country was desperately seeking a black man to garner the PC vote. That is too small a voting bloc.

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    lets look at how the rockstars would lead america?

    imagine ozzy as secretary of state and Bon jovi as the atorny general.

    the comon element is a lack of qualification. Its like the popularity contests in pity high school elections. they turn out horribly wrong. I plead america to vote for someone who knows what they're doing

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    I obviously don't mean he plays guitar and wears spandex. But I have read enough of your comments to have a decent grasp of your feelings about people of color, so I'm not going to continue this. If you don't like him, don't vote for him, but there's no need to be insulting.

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    my apologies if i have offended you, however I was making an analogy -not mocking your comment.

    I mean to say voting for someone of popularity is an insane method of election. I am not a racist. I simply want people to realize so amny are making a mistake

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    Then explain Kennedy.

    I actually believe in him and his abilities and his plan for the country. I believe he'll fix our reputation in the world and right some of the wrongs. I'm way too tired to get into specifics right now. And you aren't insulting me. I am hard to insult. You are insulting Obama when you say his only virtue is his race, especially when you have made it very clear in other comments on other blogs that you do not see blackness as a virtue at all. It's disingenuous.

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    I second your retort.

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    He wouldn't be unknown. He would be known differently... and without controversy. I really don't think he would be unknown, because many many people agree with his views, take a look at CNN polls if you get the chance.

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    many people have popular views on politics, but when you get america excited over haveing the FIRST "black president it sure is alot easier to get attention don't you think?

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    Attention, yes but not votes. Attention is still different then being known.

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    one side's not more important, but usually one side has a more noticeable effect effect.

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    one side of his heritage will suddenly erase the other....

    Why do we need race in the first place?
    We are all americans and none of this should matter. yet when you take the race factor away Obama has little to show as proof of his abilities

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    It won't erase the other. Obama isn't the one constantly bringing up his race, it's his opponents and the people who just don't like him. You are the one accusing him of hiding his White side so he can get the Black and PC votes. And what are you saying, that no one would vote for Obama if he wasn't Black? I think if anyone had his personality, people would like him regardless of race. Obviously the people voting for him feel that he has proven his ability.

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    I walk around everyday and the only thing I hear about Obama is that alot of people think a Black Man should be president. I recent Fox poll asked a room full of Barack's supporters what he had accomplished that made him worthy of becoming president and the most popular response was no answer. yes no one would vote for him if he wasn't black because the democratic party wants to put up a minority candidate. when else in U.S. History has a person gone from one year in the senate to running for president? Its not just his opponents, its his supporters and their lack of understanding of his principals. He travels the country talking about CHANGE when he hasn't even been in government long enough to understand how things work in the present.

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    Abraham Lincoln had less experience.

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    Lincoln had been involved with national politics for six years prior to nomination. Yes I kno he had no senate experience but neither did Washington. When you go back that far our nation was not nearly as complex and required less political experience to be led. As for Kennedy when you look at the two side by side they are complete opposites. Kennedy "ask what you can do for your country" Obama on the other hand seeks to blow Billions on everything that "your country can do for you". Kennedy saught to motivate Americans to work hard and compete with the USSR while Obama motivates them by promising to throw more and more money around. There are plenty of people in america with good ideas and public speaking skills but few with significant life experience to deserve such power as the presidency. Obama makes his way by getting people excited ( originally by attracting them because of PC and lately because he has become an avid speaker) but such characteristics as these should not be on the forefront of a campaign. Yes they are to be considered but not this importantly.

    Blackness?? No I do not believe Blackness is a virtue and i'm not afraid to make that statement. I do not believe Whiteness, yellowness or any other racial characteristic should be a virtue. I believe we should abolish the cruel system of judging people by race becuase it is holding us back socially. If we could just refer to each other as universially american it would make this a non-issue. just as previously stated most people of color today are at least 18% white. So why not remove the racial barrier altogether. the only sensable reason is because it gives activists such as Obama an unfair edge using PC. I further explain this in my blog on reverse racism.

    And....you people still have yet to answer my question: What has Obama accomplished that makes his so deserving of the presidency??

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    Actually I did answer that question. You didn't respond though.

    mjconnor9's picture

    actually you doged it, and quite well, but i've responded below

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    did you know that most "African Americans are atleast 18% caucasian....

    for example Actor Don Cheedle is 18% white

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    Where'd you find that statistic? That's really surprising, but it makes sense. As interracial marriage becomes more accepted, that percentage will probably go up.

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    I don't know where Mr. Warbanks found it, but I saw it on a great documentary about tracing African American heritage as far back through the slave trade as was possible. Very few African Americans can go much further back than the plantation. And it was on the plantation that a lot of the white genes came in. By force.

    The documentary was on PBS last month. I can't remember what it was called, but it might be on their website still.

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    African American Lives

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    Interesting. I think I'll check this out later.

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    Because people are looking toward that future, not the past. Honestly, I care more about what he wants to do or will do rather than what he has done. Bush had "experience" and look where we are. So it seems to me that the amount of time spent serving the U.S. government may not be so vital after all.

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    I'm not talking about experience, my word was accomplishment. What has he accomplished to make him so grand??? Experience isn't just gov time, it could be time running a successful business, being a governor or representative, or even a politial activist, what has he DONE?

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    ..Well now we know what kind of experience Bush has had....

    Did you know that he ran two of his father's oil companies into the ground? How can you do that with one of the worlds most-used resources?!

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    Well sure, I'm not a bush fan either, but that has no significance here. You can critisize any president at the end of their term but it doesn't accomplish anything. But since you brought it up I would rather have someone who was the governor of one of the unions second largest state for eight years, and had SOME experience running a business good or bad than a man who has no experience at all. At least Bush could have learned from his experience.

    While we're bashing old presidents....did you know Bill CLinton was linked to a large drug cartel cover up while governor of arkansas?

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    I did not know that, but then again we could bash Presidents as long as we want to. They all have their coverups and bad points, don't they?

    Kinda funny that you mention Bill Clinton because he one or two streets away from me right now. He's doing some speech at a local high school.

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    I did not know that, but then again we could bash Presidents as long as we want to. They all have their coverups and bad points, don't they?

    ...but Bill Clinton had a redeeming factor: he really wasn't a bad President. I mean, what he did for our country's economy was incredible. But of course, there was that whole thing with Monica Lewinski...

    Kinda funny that you mention Bill Clinton because he one or two streets away from me right now. He's doing some speech at a local high school.

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    Yes we could.

    Bills economic gains were results of the previous Bush presidency and many of our problems today are due to faults in the Clinton years. But lets steer clear of the past and try to concentrate on the future for now.

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    oh there we go the future! Well that is what I am focusing on. Plain and simple, I don't care about past accomplishments (http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php - too long to paste, so read and enjoy). I really am looking to the future, so yea let's concentrate on that.

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    You just proved my point! That little article (which apparently embeded all of Obama''s political experience) seemed to leave out a few things : Economics, National security, law enforcement, Border control, healthcare, and taxes. He has no experience in any of these fields unless you count his big accomplishments on vetrens affairs , but once again like you said we concentrate on the future here. Lets put a man who doesn't know what he's doing in office and see what future we have. you thought bush was a joke...

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    If we elected and reelected Bush what can't Obama do it? He can.
    I just have some faith I guess. I am with this back and forth stuff.

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    National politics isn't something you take chances with. Especially in times like these. With our economy in shambles we need a president hwo has more than just words. I want someone who has serious experience and plans both for the political relm and the economic. Obama doesn't cut it for any of them

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    Alllll of you spelled Barack wrong, and I am sorry but I couldn't finish reading the blog! please edit it so I won't be so distracted, I know I am being a pain but I want to read the blog because it seems interesting the the constant misspelling of his name is killing me.

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    my spell check told me that it had a double "R". Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Only one R? Really? Huh, I guess a lot of people are wrong then. I've been going off how I've seen it spelled.

    As to your suggestion, I will go back and edit my blog post. *sigh* here goes.

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    Yes I swear I am not crazy. Look at any credible website, newpapers, news channel, etc and you'll know I am sane.
    Thank you though, I really appreciate it. :]

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    No prob. I'm not trying to be ignorant or anything but I'm, well, ignorant I guess. I'm always trying to improve with my blogging so corrections/suggestions are always welcome. I just wish people who rate me badly would explain why they were rating badly.

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    RACISM IS A HUMAN FEELING. WE ARE NOT ALL EQUAL. We never will be. If you don't think you're a racist, you're ignorant. How can you tell me that you are not biased at all. If you have a brain, you are biased in some way shape or form. I hate to break it to you, but that's just how it is.

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    Racism is not a feeling. Feelings are emotions. You don't say, "I feel racist right now."
    And if you do, it isn't right. You are or aren't racist. Feelings come and go, racism doesn't. Check out my blog "I feel ____!" maybe you'l know what feelings are.

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