Alright, I am way, way tired of this racist bullshit coming from minorities. They seem to think that caucasians have no idea what it is like to be discriminated against because of religion, culture or what the fuck ever. Do they now how self-righteous they sound? If you're going to lecture me on how minorites are the only people that have ever been discriminated against, then you need to sit the fuck down and shove your fist deep down your mouth.
Lets look at genocides and discrimination through history shall we? Before 1490, genocide and discrimination was felt through out the Middle Eastern countries. We move from 1490 to 1914 and see this happening to Native Americans in America, Argentina and Australia. We see muslims and the Miao people of China rebelling against their government which lead to millions of muslim and Miao people's deaths at the hands of other Chinese. Next we have the French Revolution where we see the Reign of Terror and the war between Catholics and Protestants, massive discrimination and genocidal acts. We have cleansing in Russia, the UK, South Germany and Africa.
Between 1914 and 1950 we have the genocide of the Jews, Poles, Slaves, the mentally ill, homosexuals, Roma's and sexual deviants. In Turkey we are met with the Armenian Genocide, probably the largest genocide coverup to date. We also have the Assyrian and Pontic Greek genocides going on in the Ottoman empire. Adding to that is the discrimination and genocide coming out of Serbia and Russia during the reign of Stalin, who wiped out his own culture.
After that there are just as many, that come from all continents except for of course Antarctica. All these genocides are from all races, ethnicities and minorites. Yet minorites everywhere have the audacity to say that the majority has no fucking clue what it's like because the majority here or in other countries has never been discriminated against. It is complete and utter bullshit. History shows that everyone is guilty of racism and has no room to talk. Then why am I talking? Because someone needs to knock the shit out of you and show you that you're not as lowly as you like to say you are. It's time to grow up and face the facts, you're nothing special in the racism debate and we are all fucking hypocrites. I am a goddamn minority but you don't see me pandering and grovelling for handouts, so why should you be allowed to?
now if only we had a bowing smiley.
lol, if only we did.
I'd demand that it be in every comment that wanted to respond to me. First and last.
(bow) Txt here (/bow)
lmfao
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(bow) yeah right. Good luck with that. (/bow)
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Lmao, and I would be civiliy disobedient and not do it.
I'd have you martyred.
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:dances: If you can catch me, which I doubt you are your cronies would, haha.
Have you noticed a faint green light on your left shoulder...all the time? :)X
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8-} Not yet and I've watched carefully too. However someone has been following on my walks, but I can safey say that I scared him off.
Amazing and brilliant! Everything you've said is so true. There is racism in our country but it's definitely not all white. Personally,(coming from Tucson, Az) I've experienced more racism from *quote* minorities *unquote*, and in specific, from hispanics, than any other racial group. Actually in Pima county(where Tucson is...) whites are a minority with hispanics as the majority. So anyone want to tell me that I "don't understand" what it's like being a minority? Come on, step up to the plate...
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especially if you can write what you wrote. You really have no clue.
When minorities talk of racism, they’re not talking historically. They’re talking about the ever-present feeling of contempt they feel just for being born into their race. This current racial atmosphere is the result of historical events, yes, but minorities lament it because it is allowed to continue today.
When you talk about historical racism every race has felt at one point or another, you are talking about just that, history. Not a single racist event you mentioned has been allowed to continue to today. In fact, it is racism so far from the public consciousness that you actually have to refresh the memories of people here in this forum since no one can remember those events.
The reason why the history of racism against minorities in our society is still in the public consciousness is because it is still happening today. Minorities were historically isolated when they were confined to the ghettos of major cities. And today, they continue to be concentrated in the inner city. Minorities were poor because they were limited to low-paying jobs. Today, they are still poor because they continue to be denied jobs with studies showing that having any non-European sounding name means you won’t get an interview.
Even racist stereotypes have an effect because groups of people tend to perform to the level they are expected to perform. In America, Chinese children are praised for their academic talent, so they tend to excel in school. In Japan, Chinese children are considered feeble-minded, so they perform the worst in school. Whites in America have a positive academic image; blacks and Latinos have the worst. Take a wild guess how their children tend to perform.
To claim that “[h]istory shows that everyone is guilty of racism and has no room to talk” truly means that you have no clue and that you are not negatively affected by racism. You may certainly have discriminated against based on race, but only minorities live with racism on a daily basis.
The the minorities cannot be racist towards the majority? That sounds slightly racist in and of itself.
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Anyone can be racially discriminated against. But can you say that the form whites experience on an extremely sporadic basis is the same as that of the minorities in this country?
You state that only minorities experience it on a daily basis. I call bullshit. That implies that the majority (notice how I didn't say white, yet you inferred it) doesn't experience a reciprocal racism. This means that when a member of the majority discriminates against a member of the minority, the minority does nothing more than bitch. No, the member of the minority resorts to the most base instinct: call the fucker out.
I'm saying that everyone is equally racist. This is no one person or group who is more racist. I'm going to assume you're a member of the minortiy (the majority has learned to not care and/or just be sorry for being a member of the majority). How many scholarships are you eligible for BECAUSE of your race? In my opinion, that is the EPITOME of racism. When you take the SAT, do you mark your race? The UNCF is racist. They use the word "Negro" to refer to black people! And they don't allow whites or browns to get money from them. The NAACP is racist; they only help to "advance" you if you're NOT white. There was a white people scholarship; it was deemed racist (thanks, NAACP and ACLU). Even after they discovered it was a MEXICAN who was giving out the money!
I'm not saying racism doesn't exist; I'm saying that what you're trying to say is a load of shit.
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equal is a load of shit.
That implies that the majority (notice how I didn't say white, yet you inferred it) doesn't experience a reciprocal racism.
Maybe I have inferred too much. I assumed you were in America where the majority is white. I apologize if you are not American.
But no, whites absolutely do not experience a similar form of racism. When you complain of scholarships, you don't bother to consider why we give scholarships targeting minorities.
Minorities were forced into ghettos in the inner cities by whites. And poor begets poor because poor citizens cannot afford to move out or financially support their schools. Plus, their schools are often so inferior that even many of their best students rate in the bottom 10% on the ACTs. Explain to me how you could ever hope to raise minorities up from these situations if you don't provide them academic help?
They were isolated strictly based on race, and they continue to stay there since anyone with a non-European name has a hard time getting interviews.
"When minorities talk of racism, they’re not talking historically."
Obviously you haven't been reading the same things I have been reading to believe that. Also minorites also allow it to continue as well.
I am talking about history because every debate I get in over racism always goes to slavery. Now you might think it doesn't happen, but it does and it is annoying.
It hasn't has it? Muslim sects still take each other out. Armenians are still treated badly and sometimes killed for their heritage. Nelson Mandela's taking of land from white farmers for the sole purpose of their skin color is continuing.
I understand that, I read Freakonomics. Everywhere you go you have the problem as well. Nelson Mandela isn't a very far out name is it? It is both sides problem, not just the people with European sounding names. Stereotypes all have some truth to them. Lets also look at the bad outlook for Latino and Black students. The mindset is this for them, school is worthless and the only way to be the best is to be an athlete, or musician. That part is there problem for teaching that school is worthless. Yes, it partially came from nonminorites but not all of it. If you remember from Freakonomics, black-american had amazing strides during the years after WW2 even in the midst of segregation and the Jim Crow laws, and the thing that pushed them back was drugs. That shows that it wasn't entirely the white person's fault, but a fault of black americans as well, but they blame it on the white man.
Minorites live with racism on a daily basis here. Minorites that include everyone who isn't white. But in Africa, whites are minorites. So yes minorites do live with racism, but minorites are every race on the planet because somewhere you're race is a minority. So no one truly has any room to talk about racism because they all practice it.
Well, I think you’re expanding your scope a little too much. If you are including countries from other continents like Africa and the Middle East, then certainly, no race has more of a right to talk about racism than any other, because some other countries practice even more extreme forms of racism than we do. However, if you confine it to America, minorities certainly do have a right to complain of their treatment.
If you know economics, then you know the economies of scale. A smaller company may make the same products, but it can never compete with a larger company simply because it takes fewer resources and far less effort for the larger company to make the same product. In the same way, racism that affects minorities does not even begin to affect the larger society in the same way.
Because of historical circumstances and advantages, even a small slight against minorities in this country is far more psychologically damaging than one against a white person. If a black man calls someone a cracker, to me, it sounds kind of funny and desperate. It’s something that can appear on TV and even whites will laugh. But if a white man calls a black person a nigger, the tone becomes much more disturbing and menacing. This is due to the same principle that works in the economies of scale. The kind of pain the larger society can inflict is just not comparable to what minorities can do. It takes much less effort for the racism directed from the larger society to have a profound effect on its minority population.
So when you think of racism in this country, remember scale.
Meh, I like to reach because if we don't learn about what is outside of our own backyard, then we only think smaller terms than we should.
I do have to agree with what you've said to an extent. See when I was called a cracker well i responded with jungle baby. Did I mean it menacingly? Not really, it was more of a fuck you. But still...
I also think of race as a human construct which the majority of America does not. Everyone is a human but to debate I must go into racial terms so that people understand what I mean. I don't like being insulted with cracker just like that kid didn't like being called a jungle baby. I still feel that affirmative action and minority specific scholarships is wrong because to combat racism we must all be treated as equals and only base off of character and integrity, not racial makeup. Check out my last blog I wrote and see what you think.
From an economic level I see what you mean, but from a morality level, racism as a whole is skewed and wrong and giving advantages to others is wrong and we have to remember the past but move on so that we can all be treated as equals and humans, not as black or white.
I disagree with one point. I don't think minority scholarships are wrong by themselves. Only when it is combined with the idea that majority scholarships are wrong do I take offense.
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My bad, I agree with you there.
I still feel that affirmative action and minority specific scholarships is wrong because to combat racism we must all be treated as equals and only base off of character and integrity, not racial makeup.
How do you combat racism without acknowledging it exists and finding ways to mitigate it? It’s true when you say we must all be treated as equals, but it is a fact that minorities are not treated equally. That’s the entire reason for the civil rights movement.
It’s actually smart rhetoric for the white majority to frame the argument in terms of “equality,” but in practice, eliminating affirmative action only helps whites keep the status quo where they continue to be dominant in all aspects of our society. In fact, it is so smart even some minorities buy into this rhetoric. However, no one keeps in mind the balance is tilted to begin with.
Think about it this way. If you had a simple balance scale with a four pound weight in one pan and a one pound weight in the other, will it ever be balanced if you continue to add equal amounts of weight into each pan? Of course not. The only way to balance it is to keep adding weight to only the pan with the lighter weight until both become equal.
But I understand the equality rhetoric is strong as well as primal. It’s an idea that is learned in childhood. If a teacher gives out a bag of candy to a child and asks him to share it with his friend, the child would certainly think that’s fair. But if the teacher gives two bags to his friend first, but still asks the child to share his bag, I know of no child who would think that’s fair.
In the same way, the reason we only give scholarship consideration to minorities based on their race is because the balance of opportunities is very heavily tilted to the majority population. If you give the majority population the exact same considerations based on race, then the balance will always be tilted to the majority. The point of affirmative action is to achieve equality, not to perpetuate the majority’s advantage. That’s why it’s considered racist when you give whites-only scholarships.
But this entire debate shows just how powerful the white majority population is. As I’ve mentioned before, the principle of economies of scale is at work here. No matter how many times minorities talk about why affirmative action should still exist, the white majority, with little to no effort, can make it seem as though it is affirmative action that causes the unfairness.
That's why I bring what I wrote. Like I said, we're discussing this on a purely societal level. I think that discussing on a societal level is worthless because we're all a shade of brown and are homo sapiens, so why should I the societal invention of race be the way I see people? I acknowledge rascism only because it is acknowledged by everyone else. If "white" people acknowledge racism, then so do "black" people. I prefer to rely on the new scientific ideas that people of various colors are actually subspecies of homo sapien. If that is the case, then race exists as a subspecies but we're all equal still.
The problem with our debate here is we're both using entirely different views on racism. I also see it differently as well. We are all the same. All over the world we basically have an even amount of all races. Here in America, slaves were treated badly. Some slaves were captured and taken from Africa and other's were sold by neighboring tribes after raids. Here is where we cannot lay entire blame on "white" people. Then we go and have the Jim Crow south and all those other laws and yet "black" people actually shot ahead, far ahead even though they were still segregated from "white" people. Crack hit and for some reason it hits the "black" subspecies very hard and put them back ten years. We can claim the CIA did it or whatever. If the CIA didn't then they put themselves back on their own accord and this discussion is pointless, but the debate on who caused the crack to get in is up for debate so we rage on. Certain aspects of all races have put them back, even for the majority.
The other problem with this is that it gives the sense of entitlement. Albeit some "white" people need be knocked down a few notches, but still, no one should have a sense of entitlement in my opinion and that's what the NAACP and other groups do for all sides. Personally I am one for the Booker T and MLK visions and not the Jesse Jackson and NAACP visions of how this should work. The economic standpoint points towards all of this being compatible, but from a moral standpoint, it does not, for either side. At least as I see it.
My next blog will go deeper into racism, like real deep…lol.
I would like to hit the core of it, but in a way everybody can understand. So that will be difficult, haha, but not impossible.
Racism like many other forms of worldly cancers in this world, is a difficult terrain to translate, because it is a subject that is entirely build out of emotions that are not easily understood by all.
The thing is, and I’m sorry to say, but the more white you are, the less you understand about racism. Any person which is sun proof, knows this to be a fact!
Racism white people experience regardless of were they might find themselves upon this globe, caries another nature, that nature is hate!
This hate can be experienced or translated as racism while it is not racism, what white people feel is hatred.
The funny part is that 90% of that feeling felt by white people is based upon wrong assumptions which are self-inflicted out of fear for the sun proof man or woman.
Racism is something different than hate, racism is nothing more than a clear indicator telling everyone there’s something out of balance in society!
I will try to bring and create some understanding around hate and racism…
Bring and create understanding I say, because some people regardless if they are whiter or darker can not really be blamed for the emotions they carry inside their hearts that are scattered for life.
To create a situation of hate or racism around people is ridiculously easy, Jews are well in place to know about this sad truth, the problems that arise out of these constructs which are kept alive and nourished throughout crappy education are responsible for all the pain it brings, and therefore very difficult to root out.
People don’t really realize the loss we already have suffered, because of falls pride!
It only took some mirrors and firewater to sicken the minds of the one’s that carried comprehension, while it was unfortunately their pride that erased them of their own soil, not willing to leave footprints of slavery, which eventually marked their painful end!
A (sick) victory brought and magnified in marvelous stories that reflect the bravery of many heroes that conquered those savages! While in fact those heroes were nothing more but ruthless murderers in a time not so long gone. What a way to build a so called nation throughout evolution not allowing your own species before killing the one’s that lived another “less” lifestyle.
Racism is a cancer that is being pushed from generation to generation by sick individuals that carry no spiritual concept whatsoever. A person that caries a nourished seed of cancer in it’s brain while passing his 30ed anniversary is a bigger evil to humanity than hell or any bullet that might cross one’s path.
Pride is not to be to be found in what we have achieved, but in the way we have used and printed our emotions upon those to come regardless of their origin or tan.
We all walk upon a land and soil that once belonged to a people that are and always will remain a part of our heritage and bloodline.
The wiser one becomes, the further one can see down this line, because apart from being filled with bloodshed, our footprint remains the same!
Even that footprint on the moon, which might become a sad and last evidence to remain, for nothing and no one to decipher, while it’s true reality holds a deep and old colorful origin of our species.
It’s time to get wise! So don’t get mixed up, mix up with people, lol
Respect to you.
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I disagree that "whites" can't understand racism, but we'll see what your blog brings to my mind.
Going to include anything about race being a human construct or the scientific theory that each race is a supspecies of Homo Sapien, making us all from the same stock?
I understand you disagree, because there is nothing to understand, it’s a feeling that trouble’s people which have to go through life with this emotion. How can some people possibly understand an emotion they don’t ever live!
What does a father or mother tell a 7 year old kid that comes home from school and asks why she/he is called a stupid black ugly fat ass stinking MONKEY!!!!
If someone knows, please come and tell me, like many other I would love to know….
Whatever the answer or way parents approach or deal with this question, it will eventually bring confusion and emotional pain the verry moment this kid realizes to be regarded different and not accepted by all…pop goes the balloon of his/her loving world!
This shouldn’t happen at such a young age and it fills your jails with broken souls!
I will try to break this open one step at the time, so everybody can follow and get a good look at the core of our nature.
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Wow, this is a hot-button dealo, eh?
I have a comment pretty much unrelated to this, however--and then a related comment. The unrelated one is: I think your point might have been expressed better and elicited less venom if there hadn't been so much profanity. The way it's written now it sounds a little like a rant someone would put in their livejournal.
And this is coming from someone who AGREES with you.
Second, this is a valid point. I went to almost half-black rural high school, and people were actually ganging up on the "white girl", believe it or not. My stay there could have been really miserable if I hadn't had a very concilitory (pansyish) attitude about it.
It was a rant. Half my writings are mixes of comedy, rants and intelligent writing. It's how I write. I write the way I talk and I'm not ashamed of it, lol. But thanks for the advice :)