Hillary or Obama. Hillary and Obama?

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I was – and still am – a Hillary supporter.
I would say Clinton, but it feels like I’m actually rooting for HER – Hillary. I was too young to remember the 90s and Bill Clinton, but I vaguely remember the other election candidates: Ross Perot (bc he has big ears) and Bob Dole (I wonder how much fruit he eats).

Anyway, back on topic – I think I’ll always support Hillary, but that’s just more of a personal preference and not because of any significant differences between her and Obama. I like to support the underdog, and with the history of Hillary, as first lady, as Senator, and as a victim of an unfaithful husband – I’m glad she’s shooting for it.

Honestly, I’m not sure how significant the differences really are between Hillary and Obama. I know Hillary is an advocate for universal health care (yay) and from last night, Obama said health care was “needed for every person who wanted it.” So, I guess it's the same thing. From what I understand and hear, they are both pro-choice and pro-getting-out-of-Iraq and seem to have similar ideas on spending federal funds. They’re also both supporters of allowing illegal immigrants to achieve legal status (rather than deporting them regardless of how long they’ve lived in the States already).

What people say is different about them is how they approach these topics. I wish Obama excited me the way lots of people get excited about him.

I’m one of those people that doesn’t listen very well, especially to stuff on tv. Unless it’s something I’m really interested in watching, I change channels like my life depended on it. Which is funny, because I don’t have cable, so I get like 4 channels and switch between them and get everyone dizzy. Heh. But I digress.

During the televised speeches politicians give, my attention span sails away after they say hello and thank everyone. So I tend to gravitate toward reading things online. Maybe that’s where I’m missing Obama's enthusiasm, his charisma.

I do think Obama is a really cool last name - 3 syllables in such a short name...

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Universal health care would be so awesome! I do hope whoever IS elected makes it a reality. I might eventually be able to get health care!

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Unfortunately, your choices are now narrowed down to Obama or McCain. Hillary is officially out of the running for the nomination. She'll concede in the next few days, but there's no chance she can take it back from Obama.

I do like Obama as a person, even though I am/was a Hillary supporter. But my vote is really based on the issues. So the candidate who's for better education, more college financial aid, and for getting out of Iraq gets my vote. I also need my candidate to be pro-choice and pro-comprehensive sex ed. Obama fits the bill.

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I don't find it fair because not everyone was able to vote. They shouldn't just go by delegate counts. This is dumb. They should put Obama Clinton and Mcain on the ballot in November, but of course this world is f*ked up and doesn't do that. His plans aren't that different, but like you said I don't see the charm everyone is seeing in him. This is a very sad moment for me because I think the system screwed over Hillary because she was a woman. CNN never talked about her hardly at all and I found it wrong. The 90's were awesome and I was hoping we would go back to that awesome age, but sadly I am disappointed. I guess I will just have to get over it. Obama is not pushing for everyone to have healthcare. I don't know I am at a loss for words. :( Good blog though.

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I thought I'd let you in on a fact I know. Hillary won the popular vote by her calculations, but her calculations were skewed. She counted 0 votes for Barack in Michigan, when he would have narrowed the margin (or surpassed her) had he been in the race. In response to this, you could say "well he should have been on the ballot." True, but so should have the rest of the Democratic hopefuls during the time period. For some reason, Hillary saw herself as above the rest of the candidates and did not withdraw her name from the contest. She was probably foreseeing that she would need some more support to drag on the race and try to bend the rules so she could win. In total, if you include the 40-45% of votes Barack got from exit polls and the like (I don't know the exact percent), he wins the popular vote by around 100,000 votes. If you exclude the votes that Hillary got because of Michigan's and Florida's poor decision-making, the margin is even higher. You can not say these votes should have been counted, the 1/2 vote is still garbage. They knowingly broke rules, but since they are the Democratic party, they can bend them all the way (*cough* Hillary Clinton, Al Gore *cough*). However, I am a Democrat at least for this election, but I'm thinking (and hoping) that Barack Obama is the change needed for the Democratic Party and the U.S.A.

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I too was not around in the 90s (or you could say politically sound in the 90s). Also, I live in a highly Republican house who talk of these years as if they were the worst in the history of the country (although this is not true). However, as you said, the Obama-Clinton platforms are basically identical, so if they were to all go on the ballot in November it would be Obama 30%, Hillary 30%, McCain 40% and we'd be stuck with a war monger. We need to unite around Barack and get this country moving.

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