This is an issue that has always been on my mind in one way or the other. I know that Four year Universities are supposed to educate you and help you become a better person. My question though is do they really help you in long run money wise?
Many don't teach skills or trades, but instead general degrees. I do know that employers perfer a bachelor's degree, but there are so many jobs that don't require a four year degree that make money! Can we agree that the prices of college are just poposterious!! I don't understand why they are so high, if someone could inform me that would be great.
It just amazes me the pressure put on graduating seniors to go to college. If you don't go to college what in the world could you do that would be acceptable!!! I mean it's just ridiuclous. In all honesty, your turning eighteen years old and your life is in front of you. You are than expected to do another four more years of school that will be more rigourous and a lot more expensive.
I am not saying a four year univeristy is the wrong option. A higher educations is definatley worth it intellecutally. My first two years of college at South Puget Sound Community college through running start has made me a better person, but I doubt will help me financially unless I train in a specifc career. I have a feeling it is the same way with a bachelor's. Which is what I am worried about. I guess I just don't know and would like to know how worthwhile getting your bachelors is financially.
Perhaps it gives you a chance to study what you want to and learn about what you want to learn about. Which gives you knowledge and satisfaction. What can you do with knowledge exaclty? Can you cash in on knowlegde? If it is in the right area of course!
Hmmm
luv, Monica
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There is strong evidence that those with bachelors degrees make notably more than those without, on average of course. Most jobs that do not require a degree but pay well usually require some specialized training.
To work at many skills and trades, you need a degree. To get that degree you'll obviously be studying the field you plan to work in. O.o Without a degree you basically can't get a decent job.
Are we talking bachelor's degree though?
My questioning is the bachelor's degree worthiness.
I will have to look into it.
It depends what you go into. A Bachelor's in Engineering is pretty useful. So is architecture. Business is so-so, but doable. Social work is useful.
Now when you start going into psychology, philosophy, biology, english... I can see your point. There are very few jobs out there for people with bachelor's degrees in those areas, and many more jobs require additional training (you can't be a clinical psychologist without a PhD, if you get a degree in secondary education, you can only teach in one subject, and professional degrees require additional training beyond the bachelor's).
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I see your point and all, but I think you chose some sour examples.
For instance, can't an english major become a journalist or editor?
Can't a biology major teach high school biology or work with chemicals and such?
I think their are alot of opprtiunities out there for people with liberal arts degrees, they are just harder to see without a hard skill or trade.
I understand how people with a simple general studies or Liberal Arts degree, are harder to find a job with.
Most journalist graduate from a School of Journalism, which means a very specialized four year degree. A biology major would have to get a teaching license, which means another two years of professional training after the four year degree.
I think employers like to see the bachelor's degree. It shows a breadth of knowledge and the ability to succeed in several arenas. But I agree that it isn't always enough. I know a ton of people who went back to technical schools for more training after college. The jobs they got liked that they had both degrees. So which gave them the edge? Was it the bachelor's or the associate's? It seems more is better, regardless. We've come to a point where the bachelor's degree is like the high school diploma used to be. It's expected. Now potential employees have to show what makes them a better candidate than all the other millions of people out there with bachelor's degrees.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
It is difficult for an English major to become a journalist, because 1) the field is HUGELY competitive, and 2) most English majors haven't done enough to be noticed, and 3) as ediblewoman said, most journalists have a degree in journalism. The type of writing style taught in most English classes is not the same as journalism.
Teaching is iffy. You can be certified on the job to teach, but you'll be pretty restricted. A good number of my high school teachers had master's degrees. Working in a lab is also rather difficult for biology majors, because they're not chemists. You can work in conservation biology just fine with just a bachelor's degree, and sure, you can work as a lab tech your whole life, but honestly... do you really want to make a career out of being a lab tech? You certainly won't be able to run the lab, since that's pretty restricted to PhD's (or MDs, depending on the type of research being done).
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There is nothing shameful about trade schools. Too many Americans focus on traditional four-year Universities, even though we are swimming in people with useless Liberal Arts degrees they cannot use.
This country is desperate for nurses, welders, and electricians. I would recommend looking into trade schools if you are questioning the usefulness of a bachelors degree; these schools are very rewarding and because of the competitiveness the pay can be very good.
What you are saying is that it's difficult to get a job without the specific training. I undersand competitiveness as it relates to the job field that is nothing new.
Your words are insightful to me, I am not interested in teaching in any way shape or form. Wha I am interested in are the risks of getting a bachelors degree and having it be useless when it comes to getting a career. I don't beleive it will though because of what it looks like on your resume.
I once read if a person wants something bad enough, the country we live in allows you to pursue it. Having a bachelors is definatley a desirable thing, I just have to be cautious and mindful of what I get it in or do I?
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