Sympathy? Or Anger?

abkspitzer's picture

I have a friend, and her mother just commited suicide. She came to me asking a really hard question. Why was her mom so selfish? Honestly I didn't know what to say. I don't think people who commit suicide ever think about anything more than themselves. They do not realize who they are hurting, and all of the pain that they cause. Sometimes I wonder what makes people commite suicide, is it debt, family, job, stress, being lonely? It's hard for me to understand because no matter how crappy I feel the thought of suicide has NEVER entered my mind. The number one reason for male suicide in the United States right now is money. I don't know if anyone agrees with me but this is a HUGE problem. Money should not make you commit suicide! I can't say I feel bad for people that commit suicide because of money, because a lot of times they put themselves in the situation (Of course there are always exceptions), but doesn't suicide seem like a total cop-out in general. Am I being too harsh?

I can talk about this topic cause i can relate to the falling mother. I too took a sucide leap; the only diffrence is i made it through. I don't know why i did or why others don't. All i klnow is that i am greatful that God spared my life. As for what goes through the mind of the person, i don't know that either, and to tell you the truth they don't either. I didn't think about anything other than i wnated it all to just end. I believed that no one would ever miss me when i was gone. But in the hospital i seen how loved i was and how many people were crying when they realized what had happened. I don't think that a person can appriciate the like fully that they have until they are faced with something that test your ability to live. and i also don't think that many people ever get the chance to see that.
ashley N. martin

Kiota's picture

"I don't think people who commit suicide ever think about anything more than themselves. They do not realize who they are hurting, and all of the pain that they cause."

Yes, you are being too harsh. More than too harsh. You are being disgusting. Just because you can't contemplate the thought of suicide, you basically condemn every suicidal person as "selfish".

You do not know the amount of pain a person is in when they are driven to suicide.
You do not know the utter despair they feel.
You do not know how hard they have struggled.
You do not know how much they hate themselves.
You do not know if they know their family loves them.
You do not know if they feel terrible guilt.
You do not know if they don't know, and think people will be better off without them.

Try to be a little more open-minded about other people's pain.

abkspitzer's picture

My step mom commited suicide, and she had a loving family (mother, daughter, father, brothers, sisters, husband) she had an awesome life. Anyone would do anything for her ANYTHING. So explain that?
~AnGeLa~

Kiota's picture

How do you know she had an awesome life? Perhaps on the outside it was awesome (though perhaps there was abuse? PTSD? etc) but on the inside she was obviously devastated.

abkspitzer's picture

I understand what you saying. I've just never understood depression I guess, I know it's a chemical thing or whatever. But I guess I could just never relate to it because I've always been able to control my own emotions. My step mom was beautiful she had an awesome life, job, house, everything. It's just sometimes I don't think people realize what they have. I mean there are countries right now that have nothing. They can't even afford to put shoes on their feet. I just don't understand why people aren't grateful for everything that we have. In this country you have an option to be something, you have the option to have your own opinion and your own life? Why is it so bad? Does that make sense?
~AnGeLa~

carrot's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

You can't really compare a person in the U.S. who committed suicide with someone someplace else and say "why couldn't they see that they had a better life then say, a refugee in Afghanistan..." Suicide rarely is about that. Often the people who seem to have the best life, might have the most internal struggle and grief. Maybe they feel guilty because their life is so good, and they don't feel they deserve it, it bores them, they wish the refugee in Afghanistan could have the "good life" too and they don't know what to do to help them...

All of these things and many more could be bothering a person who thinks about or attempts or commits suicide...

I think about suicide from time to time (not seriously really, but as a reminder to myself of what I do have I guess,) and I can see lots of reasons people might go through with it. The world is a sad, scary, disgusting, dangerous, overpopulated, war-torn place...when you really look at all the shit going on, all over the globe, on a daily basis, it can feel overwhelming and to some, to end it all might seem like a better choice then trying to deal with all of it. I mean, when I think that polar bears are probably going to be extinct in my lifetime, that this war might never end, when I see homeless people sleeping under bridges and hear stories about schools getting shot up, I feel pretty damn depressed too...lately I've been daydreaming about living as a hermit in a cave....

Poison_Ivy's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

The anger you feel when someone you know and love commits suicide tends to overpower any kind of understanding for THEIR feelings and emotions. I mean, they're not even around to HAVE feelings anymore so everyone left behind is stuck trying to figure out what that person was thinking. I remember blaming myself - well, lots of others blamed me, too, and even told me that to my face. Their selfish act and everyone else in the family has to try and make sense of it, take the blame for it, wonder constantly if there was anything you could have done to prevent it. Why shouldn't those who have seen this first-hand be pissed? Why shouldn't they be allowed to be a little harsh?

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