I've actually been trying to avoid this matter, since even I realize it's a long-dead horse, but I've seen one too many people here on ProgressiveU that seem to think gun control is the only way to go to leave it alone any longer. It seems that a lot of people that are for gun control think that even touching a gun is going to make a person go on a rampant shooting spree or turn someone into a serial killer. It's that kind of ignorance and beligerent fear that's so dangerous to everyone.
A little history about myself
I originally grew up in a suberb of Cleveland, OH. The area was the typical urban/suburban area where guns were seen as a taboo at best and an evil at worst. Whether or not there were laws banning guns or "weapon free zones" in that area at the time, I don't know. I do know that guns weren't something many people owned and the physical tools themselves were almost non-existent.
The area was, however, not one you'd really want to be in at night and alone. Break-ins, mugging, and other general petty crime was common. You'd also hear about the occasional armed assault or shooting or whatever.
When I was about 10, I moved to a rural part of Western Pennsylvania. We're talking the middle of nowhere in the middle of the National Forest, where towns were 15 miles apart and the nearest big city (in this case, Erie or Pittsburgh) was two hours away.
The area is a big hunting area. So big, in fact, that kids had the opening day of deer season off because the school district knew that no one would be in school anyway. Part of the sixth grade cirriculum was a week-long hunter's safety course in the fall, just before their first deer season (the age to get a hunting permit in Pennsylvania is 12 years old). In that area, hunting wasn't just a sport, it was a way of life. And for a lot of people, the meat they got from hunting was the staple of their diet.
It was there that I learned to respect guns and learned to use them as the tools they are. Though I never hunted myself, I respected the fact that they were tools and weren't toys, and above all, weren't the evil force a lot of people in the cities make them out to be. I still learned how to handle and shoot one, as well as proper care and storage of rifles and shotguns.
After I graduated high school, I moved to Columbus, OH, for college. The city of Columbus is one of the many cities where guns are banned in parts of the area. Downtown, for example, you cannot carry guns into any building. Some of the suburbs/municiples, if I recall correctly, are completely gun-free. The first week I was there, the news reported the finding of a dead body next to the highway less than half a mile from where I lived. There is generally a shooting or murder or some other gun-related crime at least once a month. I've stopped watching the local news because it's generally pretty much the same thing.
So...what's your point?
The people in the rural town that I lived in had, typically, 2-4 children and enough firearms (including shotguns, high powered rifles, hand guns, bows, and muzzle loaders) to arm a small batallion per household. Yet none of my schoolmates or their brothers or sisters have even been killed or injured because of guns (actually, the roads are far more dangerous than even a room full of guns in that area).
Now, why is that? Because they were educated about guns from a very young age. They were taught that guns were not toys, but tools, and that they were not to be touched unless an adult is around. They were also around them all the time. To kids in these rural areas, guns are as much a part of their life as kitchen utensils. Once they got old enough (typically 7 or 8), they generally got to go to the shooting range and learn how to handle and shoot a gun (my step dad always let me use the .22 caliber rifle, while my younger sisters generally used a smaller gun we called the chipmunk gun since they were younger).
The key here is the knowledge of the tools. A knife, a tool used for cutting things so it is, by nature, sharp, is dangerous, even lethal, in the wrong hands, be they ignorant or malicious (or both). The area's gun-related crime rate is next to nothing, despite the fact that the firearm to person ratio (including children) is roughly 2:1, because they know the proper handling and care of firearms and respect the tools as potentially dangerous, much in the same way they are taught that knives can be potentially dangerous and they have to learn to respect them.
In contrast, my classmates in Ohio probably never laid eyes on a firearm other than on a cop, in the movies, or in those "take a bite out of crime" commercials, all of which depicted them as something taboo or just out of reach (and that's probably all that was ever told to them about firearms). In the suburbs, guns are one of those things that "just aren't proper to talk about." That, of course, makes them all the more tempting, because they're a mystery.



Here, Here! Agreement from me!
Nicholas Aden
Self-Promotion
I've been way off base this whole time, and I apologize to everyone. Whenever I've heard of gun control I've always thought that that applied to urban cities and set a limit to what kind of gun, like an assault rifle. And that you had to file paperwork and had to be a certain age....what are exactly some of the most common rules of gun control? I'm so confused now.
While current gun laws do set a limit to types of guns (though I think assault guns are no longer banned, at least in some places), there are still people that push for complete disarmament of the civilians. I'm all for sensible restrictions (background checks, wait periods, etc), but not for complete ban, which is what a lot of groups are pushing for, for some reason.
-- quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I think that they're disguising the true intent of complete disarmament but calling it gun control, am I right? I honestly don't think that a lot of people are for not being able to have guns at all, they just want to make it a little safer.
Many of them want to make it safer by implementing weapon free zones. The problem with that is that they're disarming the protectors of those areas - the everyday person.
-- quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Just for clarification :
Most actual laws regarding what capabilities a gun can have were put in place by the National Firearms Act in 1934. This law highly regulated the ownership of assault rifles (and all other weapons capable of firing more than one round per squeeze of the trigger), as well as short-barreled rifles, 'sawed-off' shotguns, silencers, rifles or handguns with barrels wider than a half-inch, other destructive devices such as grenades or rockets, and 'any other weapons'.
While it's possible to own such weapons legally, ownership requires a very expensive tax, submission of fingerprints and photograph, permission from the ATF and local police chief, full background check by the FBI with a six-month wait, and ATF permission slips every time you want to cross state lines. Local or state law may have extra prohibitions. In short, not exactly the sort of thing you'd use to commit a crime.
There haven't been any changes to what a weapon's capabilities may be since then. The only offensive capability that even the oft-named "assault weapon ban" limited were bayonet mounts -- the majority of prohibitions focused on cosmetic effects or safety features (barrel shrouds may sound scary, but the only thing they do is prevent you from burning your hand on the barrel).
Currently, in order to purchase any gun from an individual or group that makes their living or significant profit from the sale of firearms, you must fill out a form 4473, which requires you to give a name, address, nationality, height, weight, race, and a host of other things, as well as pass the NICS test, which checks if the FBI has any records of a felony arrest or conviction, misdemeanor conviction related to domestic violence, active warrants or restraining orders, or some types of institution at a mental hospital. Current photo ID must be shown, and a rifle or shotgun purchaser must be over 18, while handgun purchasers must be over 21. Almost all shops will also give you a primer, if necessary, as to how to use the gun safely.
Private sellers don't have to fill out the forms or call NICS, but are responsible under most state and federal laws to make sure they aren't selling to prohibited persons.
There are some gun control movements that are out there to ban whole classes of guns, or all guns all together. Josh Sugarmann and the Brady Campaign (as well as most other Joyce Foundation funded groups), for example, advocate the complete ban of all handguns or even all guns, and Mrs Carolyn McCarthy's HR 1022 would currently include every gun on the market that did not get express Attorney General permission.
Exactly! Education is important, not control. By controlling, things will get worst and more people will try to get a hand on guns. But with knowledge, guns can be a shield instead of a weapon. Good point!