Abortions
Okay, this is a subject where just no one wins, abortion. Okay which is right taking a life or giving it? If you believe strictly in your religion, you would never have an abortion because for one you would be married when you were pregnant. Secondly, if you were not you still would never have an abortion because it strictly says to never kill in the bible if that is what you believe in. I am sure the protestors standing outside the clinic with pictures of aborted babies are enough to turn you off to the idea as well.
However, the pro-abortionists have their reasons too. Like what if by birth the child will be in a worse off situation than dead. They could be a drug baby and if they were not given up at birth they could possibly lead a terrible life. Most abortions as you can guess are a result of teen pregnancy or teen girls being stupid and having sex before marriage. However, teen mother more than often are just not ready for children. Science even tells us that while teens get pregnant the female body is not really at its peak to produce until the early twenties. However, a situation in which a teen becomes a mother she may not have support of the father or her parents, she may still want to go to school, or she may just want to live her life, which is considerably harder with a child. A child may grow up in poverty or a bad home because obviously, if a woman is trying to abort the baby she is just not ready for a child or would not make a very good mother.
However, there are other thoughts to consider when thinking of abortion. Is all abortion wrong because if so you are cursing the human design? Unbeknownst to many the female body naturally aborts pregnancies often without the woman ever knowing she was pregnant. What about miscarriages are they not the body’s way of naturally aborting a baby as well? Also, should the mother be able to abort the baby if she is certain that it will have a disease that is hereditary like AIDS.
For me there are just too many factors to be complete for or against the subject. If you ban abortions, people will just find methods of doing it themselves. Also, should they not have their own rights? Should it also be mandatory for both parents if available to consent to aborting what both of them created? That leaves another problem what if the child is born to a teen parent they are more than likely not going to be ready for the responsibility of a child they are still a child themselves. Should the child be meant to suffer because abortions are banned? Either they could grow up with a parent that had to grow up too fast or they had the tough experience of a foster home because they were given up.
If you are looking at the other side of the argument, you must take into consideration the religion aspect of it. It is against many religions to take a life. Should not everyone be entitled to live and who are we to play god. What about the couples that want to adopt a baby for whatever reason and would be very grateful for a child? What about the life that was wasted after all we never know if that baby would one day grow up to be the next Mozart or Einstein of our generation?
You see there are just too many factors and would be exceptions that I just have no opinion. See I may think it wrong to abort a child however, I know so reasons why people might do it and I understand their logic. I might not choose the same path for myself should I ever become pregnant but I cannot patronize anyone for their decision on it because we just do not know their motives behind it.
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"Secondly, if you were not you still would never have an abortion because it strictly says to never kill in the bible if that is what you believe in."
For this reason, I'm always confused to hear people bombing abortion clinics..
"the pro-abortionists have their reasons too."
No one supports abortions. People revere the right to choose what is done with their own bodies. My own belief is that we should let the majority of women pursue the question in our society. But who knows whether that idea will ever catch on..
Sustainably yers, http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/green-underbelly
Thanks, by the way, for sharing your religious beliefs.
Sustainably yers, http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/green-underbelly
"Most abortions as you can guess are a result of teen pregnancy or teen girls being stupid and having sex before marriage."
"In the United States, 19% of abortions are performed on 15-19 year old girls, whereas less than 1 percent are carried out with those less than 15 years of age." (Santrock, p.216).
But...Adolescent girls ARE more likely than older women to delay having an abortion until after 15 weeks of pregnancy, when medical risks associated with abortion increase significantly. And so this might be a reason why more abortions are NOT done on adolescents.
Other than that, there ARE many things to consider when thinking about abortion, but when you look at all those reasons most of them are selfish. And I'm a little scared that society is becoming more and more self engulfed. Other than that, good post. :)
p.s. I hope that I didn't offend you. It wasn't meant to. :)
I'm not positive if the statistics that I gave (it's in my adolescent psychology book) take into account illegal abortions. I'm not sure how they got that number (if it was a survey, or medical records, or whatever). :)
That's interesting. I always figured the majority of abortions were performed in that 15-19 range. A lad learns something new every day
Sustainably yers, http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/green-underbelly
Is there an actual statistic that describes the reasoning behind abortions? I'm really just curious. I mean, I can think of so many other reasons, you know, like not being able to take care of a child properly, or health problems for the mother, or rape, or lack of financial resources, you know? But I don't have the info to say that for sure.
Well, adolescent mothers are more likely to come from low SES (socio economic status) backgrounds (Crosby & Holtgrave, 2006), however not every adolescent female who bears a child lives a life of poverty and low achievement...I'm not sure if these low economic status girls are the same ones having the abortion, and it doesn't seem to imply that, but it is possible. Let me check on that. :)
alright, easy find actually and it seems pretty legit too:
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html
The top two reasons are : can't afford baby now (21%) and not ready for responsibility (21%). This research was done in 1988. A more recent study (that was just done to get updates on that study) done in 2004 states: 25% as unready, 23% as unable to afford baby now, 19% : has all children wanted or all children are grown.
There are other reasons and surprisingly having an abortion due to rape/incest is 1% in 1988 and <.5% in 2004.
But if you do want to check it out, the site that I provided has all the stats on the two studies. :)
for not just searching that myself. thank you so much for the info. that rape is only 1% makes me confused as to my feelings... happy that less women than i thought have to deal with that specific situation, but sad that 19% of women just don't want another kid... but that's their perogative, you know?
It's actually good that you asked because I really didn't know myself, and I was actually excited to get a little more educated on that. :) I was actually surprised by the rape statistic as well. I agree, i think that it's sad that 19% of women dont want another kid or their kids are old (that might mean that they feel too old)...it may be their perogative, but it's a little selfish... And well, I'm not good with selfishness..not on big things like that.
I agree completely, which is why I say that the government should not ban abortions, and people should be able to decide for themselves. I do understand both sides, but one side of the argument is trying to make the decision for the other side. not banning abortion will not force Christian women to go get an abortion. I don't think that something like that should be decided by the government when there are so many factors, and so many children already in the adoptive system. And plus, keeping it in the open will help prevent the misuse of abortions and keep them safe for the women involved.
With that logic, murder of born people, child abuse, theft, rape, would all be legal things. So the people that want to stop murder, child abuse, theft and rape should not make the decisions for the rapists, killers, or thieves? Apparently, you don't understand both sides. As a Libertarian, I agree that the government should stay out of people's personal lives, but for everybody's liberty, there must be rules to follow. The one thing that the government does have the business and the obligation to enforce is the no aggression principle. People should not be permitted to hurt or kill other people absent of true self-defense against an aggressor. I got news for you, despite the claims made by the anti-life side, an unborn child is not an aggressor in any case and rarely threatens the life of his/her mother.
You say that not banning abortion will not force Christian women to go get an abortion. True enough, but you make it sound like it is a purely religious issue when in reality, it is a humanity issue. I am not Christian or any religion for that matter, but I still have a sense of right and wrong. Also, I must ask, why should we ban murder of the born? I mean, keeping it legal will not force those against killing to kill. The answer is obvious, because just like abortion, there is a victim or two that has rights and the law of the land must protect these rights.
My last point is that abortion is not always safe for all of the women involved. Think of the women in the womb getting aborted and mutilated. Those in the womb are not safe from the scissors of the sociopath abortionists that wish to mutilate the child while he/she is alive. Just think about it.
I'm sorry if i wasn't clear enough, but i am absolutely against legalizing anything that could hurt or harm a citizen. We're talking about fetuses here, things that could develop into a child to be born, but aren't quite at that stage yet. Something that still forms part of the woman's body and is absolutely dependent on her. There is quite a distinction between a fetus and a child being harmed by an abusive parent, just like there is a difference between wacking off your own arm and wacking off someone else's.
I know that abortion isn't only a religious issue. That was just the part i wanted to address. As far as humanities go, i still think it is the woman's choice. She should be able to make the decision about her own body. I think that, until a certain point, the fetus is a part of her body. And maybe you don't agree with me, but that's the beauty of this country. I think that women should have that choice open to think for themselves.
And on the subject of crazy abortionists, i actually won't pretend to know anything about that. But i will say that crazy people exist in every field of employment, and making abortion illegal isn't going to stop them. If women are so desperate that they get an abortion, i don't doubt that a significant number of them would do so illegally if need be. It's safer having it out in the open where the government can set standards and regulate the clinics.
I have always thought that that decision was one that should not be made by the government, but the parents, but it is a terrible burden to carry alone, perhaps the government should only allow abortions when certain contingencies are present.
Never let the world get you further down, it already has the weight of gravity on your shoulders.
Most abortions as you can guess are a result of teen pregnancy or teen girls being stupid and having sex before marriage.
Actually, only 19% of abortions in the US are performed on teenagers.
Should it also be mandatory for both parents if available to consent to aborting what both of them created?
No, because pregnancy only happens to the woman's body, she should have the final say whether she remains pregnant or not.
It is against many religions to take a life. Should not everyone be entitled to live and who are we to play god.
The problem with this is that women who have abortions are not a threat to society. They are not violent, evil people, going around and killing other people's fetuses; they just don't want to be pregnant themselves. Abortion is an act of self-defense, not murder.
What about the couples that want to adopt a baby for whatever reason and would be very grateful for a child?
There are over 100,000 children available for adoption in foster care right now.
What about the life that was wasted after all we never know if that baby would one day grow up to be the next Mozart or Einstein of our generation?
You can make what-if arguments to support anything. What if the baby would be the next Hitler or Dahmer? What if the woman could go on to be the next Mozart or Einstein, but having an unwanted baby would waste her future?
I might not choose the same path for myself should I ever become pregnant but I cannot patronize anyone for their decision on it because we just do not know their motives behind it.
Agreed 100%!
I believe that you aren't thinking the comment through all the way. What FelixFelicis09 is trying to say (I believe) Is that by trying to force the answer as "no" to an indidvidual, more illegal abortions -that are harmful to the mother than legal ones- are occuring. (Becuase many of these individuals have already made their decision.)
It's a bit off topic, but a similar example is the new idea on drug use. In some places, they are considering making professional labs to help introduce drugs into the system for the same reason. They figure that at least that way, there will be less overdoses, and less spread of blood transmitted diseases. It's disgusting, true, but the point is to save more lives, You have to choose the greater of two evils sometimes to yeild the greatest good.
Never let the world get you further down, it already has the weight of gravity on your shoulders.
that was the point i was trying to make.
It is true, that if abortions are banned, people will find a way around them. Abortions are morally wrong, with or without religion, however they exist.