You can't get married if you both have penises!!

Fanaile Essence's picture
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Why, you ask? Because somehow in some way that I cannot determine right now, you will devalue my marriage to my husband.

The value of my marriage will go down and the sanctity of marriage will be forever corrupted if you dare to marry for love, faith, and commitment.

Did you know that? Neither did I.

But apparently, that's what a lot of people seem to think. How exactly valuable they feel marriage is now is beyond me, I couldn't tell you. But whatever they have set up as that value they believe it will diminish.

Now, of course, if you were rich and famous, living in Hollywood, and getting married for the sheer publicity and photo opportunities - that would be one thing. Apparently, getting married for any reason other than love, faithfulness, and a show of committment is completely acceptable and even raises the value of marriage - but don't you dare marry the person you love other wise.

People are morons. I'm willing to bet that if in 1976 two famous homosexual stars from Hollywood got married, it would be the trendy thing to do today. And instead of seeing all this crap about Tom and Katie - it would have been Tom and Ashton.

And if you can't see the sarcasm oozing from this message, I'm sorry and I will spell it out for you exactly what I think about the subject...  I do support gay marriage. If you love someone, you have the right to express that love to the world in the form of a legal commitment to each other. If you want to ban any kind of marriage - how about banning Hollywood theatrical marriages done for publicity's sake?

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tauruschild8927's picture
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Tom and Ashton ha ha! i love it.

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lol-that tom and ashton thing was great...

Bamers's picture
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I don't agree with the blog...but props for the tom and ashton thing. It did make me chuckle.

and what about the one's with vaginas?

Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

I didn't touch on them because for some reason people (and by that I mean guys) seem to be a little more accepting of seeing two women together. I do know that they fall under the same philosophy and are suffering from the same discriminations - butfor some reason seeing two men is more "offensive" to those opposed to same-sex marriages.

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tauruschild8927's picture
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lesbians are hott.

The opposite of war is not peace. It is Creation!

Of Course we are hot, but with that logic ugly heterosexual people should not get married...

Well I dont know maybe we're on to something!

(if you all dont know that I am kidding then uhm, wake up cause I am!)
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lol, I love the Tom and Ashton thing. So Funny!

Briane's picture

Would it be okay then for my Mom to marry her Sister?
They love each other but aren't lesbians or anything and her Sister needs someone to take care of her. They could both use the benefits that legal marriage provides & would be a big benefit for them both. Nothing wrong with that, right?

Fanaile Essence's picture
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While I appreciate the moderate attempt at sarcasm, incest is something completely different than homosexuality.

But, if your mom does in fact like younger girls, she could marry your sister's best friend.

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Awhile back, there was a push for "domestic partnerships" which were basically marriages for people in non husband and wife situations. There are a lot of times when people have good reason to form a family who aren't fitting the traditional definition. She said they weren't lesbians, so I think she wasn't trying to imply a sexual relationship (ie. incest), but something else. Again, I remember there was a growing group of people supporting this because it had nothing to do with the convention of marriage, but with the legal benefits of being able to "unite" with another person for mutual benefit. Getting caught up in the "gay marriage" debate split folks and now a lot of people who are more on the fringes than gay marriage supporters are left with a bigger struggle, trying to convince legislators that there are people who AREN'T gay who legitimately want a legal union as well.

Usually, if you are getting married, it is becasue you are in love. I dont feel that anyone has the right to get in the way of that, or tell another who they can or can not love or marry. My best freind was raped by her uncle at the age of 5. She is a lesbian and has been since I have known her. I can't blame her for wanting to be loved by someone, and for her that just can not be a man. Alot of people judge someone for being gay, when they do not know the circumstances surrounding it. I don't think we should judge people at all. That is not our job.
What if you were born gay. This is debatable I know. I do believe that people are also born this way. Did they ask to be? No. So how can our God judge them for wanting to marry the one they love? I just do not believe that anyone should be judged for simply being who, and what they are.
I am a woman that has been married twice to a man. If I fell in love with a woman and wanted to marry, I feel that I should have the right to do that. What is the harm in it. Our society needs to be a more acceptable one. We are all to love one another whether the "other" is gay or not. I think we all should mind our own business, and if we have that much of a problem with "gay marriage" then mabye we need some therapy. I think alot of people are simply not taught that we are all individuals who are perfectly capable of knowing what is right for us. If you are gay, and you feel that you want that life long commitment with your partner, no one should be allowed to get in the way of that.
I hope that one day society will change and stop punishing people for being who they are. It isn't just this issue. At one time or another this kind of critisism has happened to us all. It hurts, and people that have a problem need to take a look at themselves and address it. Find out where it comes from, and remember a time when someone forbid them from having less than what they deserved.

John-Perish's picture

morality, sanctity, wtf/e. cuz in the strictest sense, there is already equality. a strait man cant marry another man any more than a gay man can. and gay man can marry a woman just as much as a strait man can.

People need to stop asking for the government to make gay marriage illegal, and instead should advocate taking the government out of marriage all together. leave it up the the church to decide who they want to marry.

we rely on the government far to much in this country.

When you take that bus, you get there.

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Blackout's picture
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I agree that we rely on the government too much, but I have to take issue with a few things that you said.

a strait man cant marry another man any more than a gay man can.

The fallacy in this argument is the assumption that the fundamental rights of male citizens and female citizens are inherently different. This is not Constitutionally supportable. A citizen is a citizen, regardless of their sex, and to suggest a female citizen has a right that a male citizen does not (or vice versa) immediately runs afoul of the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection clause.

leave it up the the church to decide who they want to marry.

Point of Fact. "The church" doesn't own, or even have any special claim to the institution of marriage. Historically speaking, marriage is a form of contract. It is only relatively recently that marriage began to be viewed as a religious institution (starting from approximately the 10th century C.E.). Marriage is a legal institution because the State attaches a special status to it, and affords certain privileges and responsibilities on the citizens that participate in the institution. To suggest that an institution of the State should be dismantled and adminsitered as a uniquely religious institution is a violation of the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.

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SaintAntioch's picture

Personally, I wouldnt care if someone married a llama. Allthough, I would bet a million dollars (of someone else's moolah), that the honeymoon sextape would be up on youtube in a New York minute.

Marraige to me means two entities that wish to be permanently tied together for whatever reason. Perhaps they just want to actually be TIED together. Perhaps the llama couple and the bondage couple could get together and have a kinky sex party. Which will also be on YouTube, I'm sure.

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