Illegal Immigrants

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Illegal Immigration has gotten out of control. Some are coming in here, and are becoming just a steady drain to our economy, and some actually come here to work, and make better lives for themselves and their family, and therein lies the dilemma. Illegal Immigrants are also over populating the schools, one good example is the school I used to go to, Rancho, almost half of its student population are illegal immigrants. Although its nice to believe that some of them actaully want to learn, most of them just start fights in the school and vandalize the school. The Federal government uses about $6,000 on every student in NV, and it annoys me that a lot of those money go to students who are illegal and dont even take advantage of it. Programs in school are underfunded  because it wasted on people who dont even care.

Mass Deportation? Sure, its a good idea. it has its advantages, but who's going to replace all the dirty jobs their filling? Regular Americans? I dont think so...many Americans, including myself, are not willing to get their hands dirty.

700-mile wall? Sure, but as one of the bloggers in this site said "Who's gonna do it? Probably latinos, as well.

What's to be done?

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They are a drain to our society because they are not allowed to work legally. If there was a way for them to gain citizenship status, and the ability to work legally then there would be money coming from them in order to support the nation. There was a recent attempt at such a process. Immigrants could stay in the United States if they had been in the US for at least 5 years, paid a fine, and went through a process in order to become legal citizens. If they had been in the US for i think 2-5 years then they would be deported but they would be available to come back to the United States legally as soon as the immigrants that had been in the US for over 5 years were processed. If they had been in the US for less then 2 years, then they would be deported.

The advantage of this process would have gained funds that may have been lost by the national/federal government in ensuring that they became legal citizens, and what is more, they would be able to work legally and pay taxes.

They are not allowed to work legally at this moment, and that has an implication. Can we expect the immigrants not to work in the United States? No, we cannot do that, we should know better then to expect the lowest rung in the ladder of society economically wise to be able to support themselves with out working. This is not a were one can live with out money. How can they pay taxes if they do not have a Social Security number or a Tax ID? If we are to blame them for taking money from our society for not paying taxes, then we should at least give them the opportunity to pay taxes and then judge; not take that opportunity away and blame them because they do not pay taxes.

Mass deportation does not have an advantage. It is almost impossible to do. How do you expect to deport the 12-20 million immigrants when the cost can reach as high as $50,000 per family? Why is the number so large? Well, the cost of encarcelating the immigrants while the process of deportation is being carried, lawyers since many do not have the economic means to pay for one, the courts, the deportation itself. Its all a process that takes time and costs money. Consequentally we do not know how many are out there. last year it was assumed to be about 12 million immigrants, now there are estimates saying there are perhaps 20 million immigrants.

The scenario that would take place is similar to ileminating drugs from the streets. There is an exponential growth in the cost with an increase in the percentage of drugs eliminated. It gets infinitely high as the eradication gets closer to 100, but never touches that point. Deporting immigrants is similar, it will get exponentially large and may not reach a limit, it can be the demise of the United States.
Would it not be better to simply allow them to stay? We talk about how dangerous they may be to society if they stayed. What if they are terrorists? Since immigrants are not supposed to be driving, and we do not even know how many are out there, then we have just created a system where a terrorist can hide in 20 million people. The method that was intended to protect us can have a derigatory effect on the United States. If we allowed them to get some form of legal documentation we would be able to monitor immigrant movement more closely, and further more have a basis to detain an immigrant that does not have any form of federal identification, which decreases the chances of a terrorist hiding in the mass population of undocumented and unknown people.

Chasing immigrants around to deport them is not at all the solution. There are still immigrants driving illegaly. It would be dangerous to cause such intimidation to such an extent. They are still humans with human emotions and when enough pressure is placed on humans they will attempt until the impossible if they feel there is a risk to their lives. If they fear their country enough, they may decide to not stop for the police that tries to stop the car for going 5 miles over the limit, and may decide to stick the pedal to the metal, possibly becoming the result for a very disastrous accident, one where the victim may be the innocent bystanders.

Why not kill two or three or four birds with one stone? We can monitor immigrant movement and know where they are situated, and who they are, we can collect taxes from the immigrants, deter terrorists that may hide in the masses, and most crucially, make the immigrants into a group of people capable supporting the burden they may cause, financially.

One thing that I do not want to see is all of the illegal immigrants to get citizenship. I believe that only a certain amount should be able to become citizens each year which depends on how many job openings and the economy at the time.

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I read an article not too long ago about the bill they wanted pass about illegal immigrants. It was interesting because I always thought they were more trouble than anything and that they should not be allowed to come in at all. But after reading a few articles for my Justice class I was really torn. It is such a hard issue. They are hurting the economy, but then again they are doing those jobs that no one else will do.
In this article (Workers Step from the Shadows) the immigrants that they come here because they have opportunities that they would never be presented with in their own countries. They believe that they are an integral part of society. At the time we had to think about, if this bill were to pass it would make it a felony for people to hire them or for churches or charities to help them. Employers would be charged thousands of dollars for each violation. How would this law affect the United States?
Where do we draw the line of doing what right for the people of the US and doing what's right for people who are oppressed. They are coming here because their countries are so corrupt and they cannot make a decent living to take care of their families. From a Christian perspective it is a hard place to be. Also what makes it right for people to hire them for the "dirty jobs." Sure they are jobs that no American wants but if American's do not want to take these jobs then they should stop complaining about illegal immigrants coming in and taking jobs away. I don't maybe this does not make any sense but something needs to be done about something...
I know this will never happen, but I think one of the best things we could do would be to use the money we are already spending on these immigrants to help them to develop their own communities in their own countries. By this I mean that they should maybe set up some kind of program and give them a choice to either go through it and go back to their countries or something other consequence (?). This program could teach them certain trades or business practices enabling them to go back to their respective counties and help their own economies. I think this would work but I don't think it will ever happen because people would argue that it would cost way too much and we would be encouraging illegal immigrants to come here. But it is an idea...

If we legalize immigration then these people can be taxed and make a regular living to do so. Which should help out with costs to educate. Unfortunately, most people want to keep them illegal so they can pay them $4 an hour to build their [insert here].

I get offended when people speakly poorly of hispanic immigrants. Honestly, I know just as many other minority groups that cause problems in schools too. It's not the ethnicity and it isn't fair to say so. It is the lifestyle and community they are brought up in. Unfortunately it's the only thing they know.

My family immigrated from Cuban back in the 1960s before Castro got really powerful. They, like many immigrants, were not drains on society in Cuba but came to this country with nothing and choose to live in poverty rather than stay and watch their beloved country be destroyed. My family owned a sugar cane farm, had paid servants etc, they were very well off. They gave up their farm to castro's regime in order to leave the country. My grandparents are still struggling financially but at least they are free. My family that came from Cuba are all American citizes now and speak english besides my grandmother who only knows a few words.

I would think twice before lumping immigrants together and saying they are the cause of our problems.

not to mention that illegal immigrants can commit crimes and what not and their is no way to really track them since they are not in any system (like social security numbers, passports, etc.) they are like ghosts. If you think they are big crime starters then you should make them citizens so they can be prosecuted like the rest of us.

I have a few friends who were born in mexico and moved here when they were babies. And they can't get their citizenship because many people vote for them not to. I am so glad my family is from puerto rico and that I do not have to go passed all the red tape to become a citizen. Its a long and time consuming process. But one thing I see different in my friends that were born here and my friends born in other countries, is that the ones born in different countires are really proud to be americans. Most families are glad their kids have an education now. Most have jobs that many native born americans would hate to have. Most are willing to work hard and they want to stay here the rest of their lives, while many american teen want to leave, or talk about how boring thier lives are. Just think abuot what whould happen if all the immigrants were forced out of the countries.

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