Jesus loves everyone ... well ... almost everyone ... well ... Christians ... well ... some Christians ... well ... certain Christi-You know what, let's look at the book.
Jesus Loves You Unless:
You are Homosexual – Leviticus 18:22
Have Had Sex with More Than one Person – Deut. 23:18Have committed Adultery – Leviticus 20:10Your Parents Weren’t Married - Deuteronomy 23:2You were Raped and Did Not Marry Your Rapist - Deuteronomy 22:28-29Have thought about Committing Adultery – Matthew 5:18Have Disobeyed Your Parents – Matthew 15:4 Call Anyone Father - Matthew 23:9Have Gotten a Divorce - Matthew 5:32Love Your Family/Friends - Luke 14:26
Have Long Hair and Are Male - l Corinthians 11:14
You are Female and Pray with your Head Uncovered – 1 Corinthians 11:5You are Female and Pray/Speak in Church – 1 Corinthians 14:34
You Are Not Jewish – Matthew 15:24
You were Raped and Did Not Marry Your Rapist - Deuteronomy 22:28-29Are Male and Pray with you Head Covered – 1 Corinthians 11:5Curse your Parents – Leviticus 20:6 Cut your Beard – Leviticus 19:27Have Gotten a Divorce - Matthew 5:32Love Your Family/Friends - Luke 14:26
Wear Jewelry or have Braids and are Female - 1 Peter 3:3
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Wow, did you even read the Bible except to find way of proving that Jesus does not love people? Probably not. Considering that it tells of how Jesus died for our sins so that we'd be forgiven for all the things that we do wrong. You have to love some a whole lot if you're going to die for them, especially if you're not familiar with them.
Also, take into account that a lot of this was written in a different time period when this was the "norm".
All you're doing is taking things in a very literal way with no analytical thinking whatsoever.
I agree with you to a certain extent. Jesus loves everyone, and yes he did die for our original sin, yet one should not continue to sin because one knows that Jesus died for our sin. The point is to ask for forgiveness from the bottom of your heart and truly feel repentment, learning from your mistake and going foward instead of backwards.
Ranger wrote: "Also, take into account that a lot of this was written in a different time period when this was the "norm". All you're doing is taking things in a very literal way with no analytical thinking whatsoever."
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I can't stand it when Christians use that excuse. You can't pick and choose which verses to take literally. You just can't. I bet you still believe that "thou shall not suffer a witch to live" don't you? I mean what verses do you follow? The good ones? The bad ones? New Testament only? Some of the Old Testament? That book just really needs to be updated. I mean come on; the NT still says that women should be kept silent.
Tabias (a Wiccan Witch) -
I can't stand it when Christians use that excuse. You can't pick and choose which verses to take literally. You just can't.
I see what you mean but I think, again, it all boils down to taking things in context. Was Jesus telling a parable? Is the verse taken from a letter that was written to an individual or a church? Is it addressing a custom or tradition from thousands of years ago? And are you seriously suggesting updated a historical and Holy book because of that?
Again, taking the verse you mentioned in context we see a few things. The verse is not talking about God's view of woman, Jesus' love of woman, but of the role of a woman in public worship. Maybe some of the roles held true to the role of women in society in that time, but your point was about Jesus' love, so I'm not sure how this applies. This is the verse in question in the New International Version, "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission." This speaks of a woman's role in public worship. It is a call to worman to learn from those placed in authority in the public places of worship. The same author of 1 Timothy also wrote the book of Titus, and in that book he instrcuts older women to instruct younger women. It is not his intention to silence women, just to establish order, according to the society he was living in, during the services.
Given all of that, I still don't see what any of it has to do with the love of Jesus...
~ElegantFree~
Yes I'm suggesting to update that "historical and holy book". The kings and emperors did it over the past 1500 years, why stop now? Are you even aware of how much material was taken out of the bible?
And if every single verse of the bible can be interrupted a million different ways, then how do Christians even know what in the world they are following?
Tabias-
You bring up a very good point. Who am I to say anything if you read, "learn in quietness and submission," and interpret "Jesus doesn't love women." That is completely on you, just as it is up to all who read the Bible to come to their own conclusions. Because of the different translations of the Bible and it's historical nature there are many things that have been taken out, put back in, interpreted in different ways, so it's up to the reader to ultimately do the research, if you will ,and draw their own conclusions. Hopefully they are not hasty ones taken out of context.
~ElegantFree~
I've read the bible numerous times. The Old Testimate Sacres me. The NT makes me laugh. You are also have to remember that Jesus is still alive (or so they say) so its not like he really died for us.
Smile Like You Care
HA HA HA HA!!! " Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”" Matthew 15:24
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
What was the point of this other than to seemingly point fingers? Is this a blog possibly pointing out things you see wrong in the bible? Is this a blog trying to preach ways? Or possibly what not to preach?
Just posting(and double posting) parts of the bible that claim you have sinned without any other context seems to be just asking for someone to come and chew you out.
I can't see the point to this blog. there is no substance at all.
I wanted to share humor with the people around me.
Smile Like You Care
I see what point you are trying to make and I appreciate that you even went to the Bible to get examples but, you haven’t quiet made your point.
Leviticus 18:22 - 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” If we are going by Christian standards, than it is accepted that “sin” is an abomination to God, detestable, and separates mankind from God. This speaks about God’s feelings towards the sin and not the sinner.
To refer to other examples of Old Testaments that you brought up, Christians who accept Jesus are no longer under the law according to Romans 6:14. You cite a lot of passages but none prove your theory that Jesus doesn’t love those people.
Matthew 5:32 - But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery. Again, this is speaking of a practice, not love or lack thereof for a person.
1 Peter 3:3 says, “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes.” Okay, what does that have to do with the love of Jesus?
You also take many things out of context. You can pick out verses of the Bible that say almost anything, but the point is to take them in context. For example, Matthew 15:24 says, “He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." Okay (this doesn’t speak of love either and it's a conversation Jesus is having with a single woman but, let’s go with it), even given what the verse says, take it in the context of say, the rest of the story of Jesus, where the Jews rejected him but he died anyways for whoever where to accept him (John 3:16).
I see what you were getting at, I just don’t think you backed it up.
~ElegantFree~
Sure you're not under the law of the OT, but I'm pretty sure that Matthew is NT. It also says in 1 Timothy 2: 11 "Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. 12 I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent. " This is NT as well. And no matter which way you read that verse, you can't take it any other way other than exactly what it says.
Tabias-
Sorry! To me God and Jesus are just ideas people thought up long ago to force a certain kind of morality on people.