September 11th was such a tragic day, and I think it affected each and every American.
As humans, we could not help but feel sorry for the 2,000 people who were killed in the Twin Towers, in the Pentagon, and those in the airplane that crashed in Pennsylvania and have genuine care for their families.
As a result of this dreadful day, America has gone to war with Iraq.
The Bible says that we are all brothers and sisters, and we are all united and equal.
We feel the pain for each American soldier dying for him and his family, but not once have I been in a conversation and been told that an American has the same passion for each Iraqi soldier.
They are our family too. We both come from God, we are brothers and sisters, but yet most of us don’t feel the pain for each Iraqi soldier.
They are just a precious as those lives lost in the Twin Towers or the Pentagon.
Now I’m sure there are some people out there who have just as much empathy for the lives lost of the Iraqi soldiers as the lives of the Americans, but I have yet to come across one. Please let me know your opinions on this!
Peace and God Bless!
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You bring up a valid thought...there isn't much discussion about the sadness anyone feels for the Iraqi's that have lost their lives. It's hard to talk about that when all we really see and worry about is our own. That's not to say that there are some Iraqi's that want to be free of the worry that their livelihoods will be destroyed by warfare. I'm sure that there are a small percentage of Iraqi's that want the American force there and feel that they are making the smallest of difference.
I'm sure that there are innocent Iraqi's that people should and do talk about that have lost their life in this war and their families feel much of the same heartache as America does as a whole every time we hear that another soldier is being returned to their hometown to be laid to rest.
You did make me think, but I feel that my thoughts are prioritized to those things that directly affect me. For example, the few and the proud that I know that are currently deployed to Iraq as we speak. My thoughts are prioritized to think of their well-being and safe return from a war that mostly all of the military wants to stop fighting. I get that general thought from the way that my friend in Iraq expresses himself.
It is in my opinion that because we were attacked that the soldiers have a sort of need to justify the act. However, once they are there those feelings evaporate as bullets whiz by their heads and their comrades are dying. In a way it is kill or be killed. I personally wish it had never come to what it has. I wish the whole entire event never happened. I share your compassion but not just for the people involved in the war. I know that people who are not involved feel a sort of sadness because of it. Do you think that others know this? If they did would they still be fighting this war? If they cared would they stop this war just to see everyone in the world happy again?
I never understood that. If they attacked us, why would we be on the same level and attack them right back with war?
Two wrongs dont make a right.
We are all one big family, weather we see it or not, feel it or not, or know it or now.
our ability to defend ourselves. There were many more attacks on the brink had we not cracked down...Peace love and happiness isn't always the answer...SMILE.
Bush can't be considered as the general consensus of opinion in Iraq. Further, I think that WE as Americans need to express our disdain for the choice that HE and others in power made to go to war. WE, as Americans, didn't attack them, THEY, as the people in power attacked them. It's about time that we turn our disdain for the war into support for our troops that are subject to extended stays because Bush can't seem to figure out that religious wars are not solved through bombs and gunfire.
it becomes survival of the fittest once you hit the battlefield...A few friends have just come home and crumbled...broken down-grown men. These things affect everything in life for the people involved. There will never be peace...anywhere, ever, unless all humans are extinct. Sad but true.
I honestly don't think that there are American soldiers waiting in line to go to Iraq to justify anything that has ever happened. Which "people" are you referring to that are "involved in the war" that you have no compassion for.
I can remotely think that you are talking about maybe Bush and his people, but they aren't out on the field putting their life on the line. In which case, that leads me to believe that you are speaking of the soldiers that are over there that are "involved" in the war. Do you honestly think that they deserve no support? Furthermore, do you think that the majority of them are happy that they have to go to Iraq, not once, not twice, but on three deployments? Do you think if they had a choice that they would go?
I agree. I dont think any of them would choose to go.
They arent there to justify anything, but for the sake of fighting for our contry and representing America.
Hmm... I do think you misunderstood what I said. I have compassion for everyone. I was referring to the people who don't have family members in the war. I was referring to the people who have deliberately decided not to join because of the chaos it is causing. I have compassion for those people too. When people usually talk about someone in that war and how they feel sorry for them it makes me wonder why no one thinks that way about other people in the WORLD. I mean you don't hear people strike up conversations about famine in Africa and someone dying in Russia for doing what they thought was right. Yes, all the soldiers first went over there with a desire to justify what happened to us, but it has changed. I see it everyday because I'm at that point where I can notice it. When the war began you cannot deny that a lot of people signed up for the service just because of 9/11. Now that everyone here knows what war can do the recruiting offices probably do not even sign ten people lined up at their door in one month's time. I don't understand why we are still over there anymore but if it means that we are protecting someone who cannot protect themselves then I'm willing to go. As a Navy recruit I feel that way but I hold nothing against the people we are fighting. I envy people with reason but I don't envy someone who is willing to start an argument then lead a group of people to fight. How closely can you relate that to a bunch of immature school kids?
Are you referring to KnKohio when you said : "I envy people with reason but I don't envy someone who is willing to start an argument then lead a group of people to fight. How closely can you relate that to a bunch of immature school kids?"
I didn't read that statement as she was directing it towards anyone in the current conversation. Rather, I believe that she is referring to Bush and the rest of his clowns who have lead us into the fight in Iraq. I don't feel as if I have started an argument here and I definitely do not think that I attempted to lead anyone into anything. Moreover, I think that the response is in response to leading people into war and how could that possibly leave a good impression on school kids in the schools that we are trying to rebuild. I'm sure there are mixed emotions from the eyes of innocent Iraqi's and rebuilding their schools.
I would imagine that some say "yay, you built me a school, but I have no home to go to" or 'great, I have a hospital, but my parents died yesterday due to your bombs'....who knows really what they feel, certainly I can only imagine with American rationalization what the Iraqi people fell. I do know that I am no expert, nor someone that could ever really know how the Iraqi's feel...
and have gone multiple times, on their own accord...that are excited about being in Iraq...They dig wells, build schools and hospitals...and MANY Iraqis love our troops. You won't see that in the media...only what they want you to see, and you buy into it.
Our troops are building schools and hospitals there?
friends coming home have been excited about what they are doing, and it has not been weilding guns...they have been digging wells and building other structures that help the whole of the people.
....and this is what were calling war?
i'm really happy to know that SOME people that you know (Amy Rice) from Iraq have been doing such nice and compassionate things
but you also don't see what i see on my pakistani channels that show the real deal about Iraq
the areas that you are talking about are scattered and a few
MOST of Iraq has been destryoed beyond so much wreckage and shit that it would take about a decade to rebuild
unofficial numbers of iraqi civilians who are dead are as high as 300, 000 and you say it's NOT WAR?
what the heck of a world are you living in? i mean i want to see and hear from the people you know and know on what kind of a level are they reconstructing Iraq
PLEASE don't inform people that this is not war- that there aren't millions of orphans because of american air strikes and bombs and because of the civil war that we have caused in Iraq
we added fuel to the fire that was always there
YES IT IS WAR
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
there are many militant areas, but both sides are involved and I can't blame that all on America
that you painted a really nice picture and pointed out the beauty of what we are doing----whereas the uglyness and far reaching physical and psychological impacts of this war are in no way comparable to the good we have spread
IF we were spreading more good than bad, i would have supported this war
but as it is there is no way i am or ever was in support of this war but that does not mean I don't support our troops
those are the only people i support but I do NOT support this war
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
I am with you. No doubt, I just try to look at all sides, as you do as well, and I think that our goal was to do good, but we all have some bad ingrained into us too, and in the worst of circumstances that comes out.
http://www.progressiveu.org/104644-how-can-you-not-know-or-have-time-to-...
this is the "good life"
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Yes, but she was making it sound like this was our main goal in Iraq and that all i "buy" into the fact that we were killing Iraqis.
and the Muslims are Ishmaelites and enemies of the Christian faith...Plus, God is a jealous God. So, that argument will just not work. Good for you though, making that effort. Some people can't forgive, and when they have had family members and the illusion of safety taken so violently away, who are we to blame them for the distaste left in their mouths? That argument can work both ways.
sorry about the wrong numbers...
The impact was a little bigger, wanted to make sure you knew...
though i see that this is not the point of the blog
but Saddam and Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11
just thought i'd say that
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Valid point, no Iraq didn't directly have input into 9/11. Rather, Sadam is/was Bush's arch nemesis. Bush is a lame comic book hero of sorts...yeah, so he took down the monster, but he didn't save anyone in the process. He only threw the world into increased warfare, hatred, and fearfulness of a future event. Sure, Iraq harbors Al Qaeda members, but so does America.
You may have heard about the man that they found in Columbus, Ohio that was plotting to blow up the Brooklyn bridge. His face graces the news every now and then as a suspected member of Al Qaeda. He was a truck driver that lived 2 blocks from me in a heavily Muslim area in which students of the Ohio State University lived. I lived 2 doors down from a mosque, three buildings down from me, another suspected member lived and was planning no blowing up the mall downtown. So, if we are to believe Bush's tactics and plans, then we would be destroying any community in America that remotely resembled an Al Qaeda area. Which leads me to believe that he would attack innocent Muslims living in the area where these 2 men lived. Neither that, or what we are doing still in Iraq, makes any sense.
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We ALL want our troops to come home safe and in one piece. If anyone rebuttals that they should hang their head in shame and leave the country...
of course....why would we want our troops to not come home safely?
Theyre fighting for out country and our rights.
It's amazing the people that are spreading the word of hatred and non-support for our troops calling them "trash". It's really terrible to read those words and know that one of my best friends is in Iraq right now, or as another blogger wrote in response to that post, something to the effect--I'm glad you call my mom trash and you don't even know her--apparently, her mother is a soldier in Iraq.
I'm glad that you feel the way you do about "why would we want our troops not to come home safely"...there are a lot of people trying to express their hatred for American troops and they are Americans saying that.
When I read the blog about American troops being trash, I ran, not walked, to my e-mail and made sure I told my soldier in Iraq to let everyone know around him that our disdain for the war doesn't mean we don't support them. He's vented to me in a personal e-mail sent to my work e-mail, which I won't see in until Monday. I'm really trying to patiently wait to read his words, but I'll just have to wait and see what he has said in response to my message to him.
i wrote a blog about personal freedom and how the troops have lost theirs. They can't say anything against the war, except the occasional e-mail from private e-mail to private e-mail, like hotmail or yahoo. He never responds to messages like that I leave on his Myspace, which makes me think that somehow that site is monitored. As there was a time that they were going to take Myspace away from the troops because it may lead to divulging secrets of war....That was on the news a few months back. When I asked my friend about it, he didn't reply to that message.
i mean i would point out the horrible way that the VTECH situation was handled
IT COULD have been PREVENTED
that is what we need to do
PREVENT!!!!! NOT CREATE more hate and anger and war and prejudice and intolerance
PS one of my girl friends from high school joined the army a year and half ago and like most people all of us pray for her to be safe at all times
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Iraq's army was disbanded by Bush and now we are training their soldiers from the basics...so most of their casulaties are civilians who get killed in cross fire and are attacked as a result of the civil war that has now become the story of Iraq
Sunni v. Shitte
so when you say soldiers- it's actually basically Iraqi people-- not that their soldiers are not dying but those soldiers were not even the original army of Iraq because as people should know......-the iraqi army was disbanded by the US govt
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def