A (Hopefully) Unbiased Look at Islam

So a while back I was given a challenge to read more about the religion of Islam. The original challenge was to read the Hadiths, or traditions started or approved by Muhammad. In the process, I found an interestng book that I've felt worthwhile to use as a basis for my explanation of Islam and how it's used - and abused - the way I understand and view it.

What I've found is a sort of "question and answer" session with Georgetown University Professor John Esposito, in book form, called What Everyone Needs to Know About Islam.

In the book, he goes into a number of things about the religion of Islam. The parts that appear to get the most praise are those that cover the more "mundane" aspects, such as origin, rituals, and rules of Islam. For the scope of this blog, this is pretty much exactly what I didn't know I was looking for.

The topic in the blog that started this whole thing was along the lines of Islam's similarities to Christianity and Judaism. My original assertion was that there are fundamentally few differences between Judeo-Christianity and Islam, and so far, there hasn't been much, if anything, that has been able to dispute that. So, finding this book, which I will more than likely reference a number of times, especially when its author, a specialist in the study of Islam, continues to reassert the similarities and connections between Islam and Christianity, was certainly intriguing. While most of the following is based on what I read from that book, it is also supplimented with research from other sources, which are cited throughout the text (though the Qur'an citations are simply noted by their chapter and verse).

How Islam relates to Judeo-Christianity

Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all what are called Abrahamic religions. They are called such because they all worship the god of Abraham. In other words, Yaweh, Allah, and Jehovah (and whatever else you want to call him) are all the same being. The New Testament refers back to the Old Testament, and the Qur'an refers back to the Bible, both do so a number of times.

In fact, the Qur'an specifically states "Say, We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us, and in what has been sent down to Abraham and Ismail and Isaac and Jacob and their offspring, and what has been revealed to Moses and Jesus and to all the prophets of our Lord. We make no distinction between them and we submit to Him and Obey." (3:84)

"..what has been sent to Abraham...and Issac and Jacob...what has been revealed to Moses and Jesus..." Well, now, those names sound familiar, don't they? That's because Islam and the Qur'an regard the Jews and Christians as "People of the Book," or those that have seen and believed the books (the Torah and the Bible) that God has revealed to them through their prophets (Moses and Jesus, respectively). Or, it used to, anyway. Conflicts since the time of Muhammad and early Islam have since changed the views both sides have on each other.

In short, Islam is to Christianity what Christianity is to Judiasm. It basically builds on what the other two already have, in much the same way Christianity builds on what Judiasm has in place.

The Taxes Imposed by the Muslims

One of the things that was brought up in the conversation was the fact that in the Muslim-dominated countries, the Jews and Christians were taxed. Yes, they were taxed, but this was during the late 10th century, when most conquerings resulted in "convert or die" ultimatums. In contrast, Christians and Jews were allowed to practice their own religions without fear of persecution. Christians and Jews were able to own land, as well as keep high-level positions, such as engineers and architects. Basically, they weren't as much "second-class citizens" as "second in command" in Muslim nations.

The Treatment of Women and the hijab

Another, rather large, matter that came up was the treatment of women. In the Middle East (as well as many American Muslims), it is generally traditional that women wear garments that cover most, if not all of their bodies and aren't form-fitting. The Qur'an and Hadiths mention covering everything but the face and hands in modesty not toward men, but toward God. This is interpreted in different ways, depending on the country (Wikipedia has some good pictures that show the different ways it's interpreted). For example, Afghanistani women are completely covered, while other countries only require the head scarf part. Men also have a basic dress code, though some people may consider it more lenient than that of women. In my opinion, it's simply different. For example, men cannot wear silk or gold, but women can. The differences between how much is covered is a political thing, not a religious thing, hence the differences between the countries.

Islam teaches that men and women are equal parts of a whole. Women cannot be inherently evil without men being inherently evil. In the eyes of God, every Muslim is a follower, a servant of God, regardless of gender. While it does distinguish the different roles (as with American and European traditional roles, the wife generally has the primary role of taking care of the family), Islam also permits women to work outside the home (so long as family needs are met), own property, and even vote. (Source)

Now, have been women been abused in the name of Islam? Certianly, just as women have been abused in the name of Christianity. The question is, does the Qur'an (or in Christianity's case, the Bible) condone this behavior? In both cases, the answer is accepted by scholars as a resounding "no."

Many (usually non-Muslims) believe that the hijab is oppression. Many modern Muslim women, on the other hand, find it the exact opposite. When interpreted as the entire outfit (ie - loose-fitting clothing that covers the body except for the hands and face), a woman is wearing comfortable clothing that allows her to move freely (the type of cloth, from what I've found, is not restricted to any certain kind, so long as it doesn't show anything off, so it doesn't have to be something like, say, wool). When dealing with others (specifically men), she does not have to worry about them paying more attention to her breasts (and whether or not they are larger than another woman's) than to what she's saying. (One of many sources)

Think about the stereotypical Western woman - tight pants or tight, high-cut skirt, tight shirt or tank top that she nearly falls out of, 6" stillettos, some hairstyle that probably uses a good amount of gel and/or hairspray, and half a pound of makeup. Don't believe me? Open a magazine (yes, I know, not all women dress like that; however, that is considered the bar for Western women, even by our own, regretful admission). Women in this country are often used as sex symbols. Women in the past have been considered property. If you are part of a religion that emphasizes submission (to God) and modesty, would you not want to set yourself apart from the others?

Islam 101 goes more into detail about the rights and privledges of Muslim women.

The Corruption of Islam

Like Christianity and Judiasm, Islam has been corrupted over time by the political powers that be and translations of the holy texts (though Islam has at least tried to keep the Qur'an from translation corruption by keeping it in the original language).

Seneca the Younger once stated, "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." I don't think you can get much more true about the last segment of that statement. Rulers have used the name of one religion or another for political gain. Constantine, among others, did it with Christianity and several rulers today are doing it with Islam.

One of the contentions I was faced with in the other blog was that Constantine and the other things done "in the name of Christianity" were done hundreds of years ago, while those doing the same things "in the name of Islam" are doing it today. The only difference is the timing. We are currently living in a time that will be looked back upon by those in the future as the time Islam went through a phase not unlike Christianity's "literal phase," where extremist leaders used a bastardized version of the religion to control people.

(Note: if you are of the Muslim faith and have found error in what I have posted here, by all means let me know. I am still learning about it and would like to learn more, especially from a Muslim's point of view.)

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Great post. And it shows the strong connection between the Abrahamic religions, something that I am sure will insite some type of backlash. Because I was at least taught that Islam and Christianity were not related, but they really are.

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Oh, I don't doubt it will cause some backlash. People tend to get upset when you start equating them to their perceived enemy.

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All in all I say that I am surprised to find this leading into a peaceful conversation. A rare but nice thing here on Pro u.

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Indeed. I'm impressed and disappointed at the same time. :P

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That was very good and refreshing. I've argued with more than a few people in defense of Islam compared to Christianity/Judaism although I am not a Muslim, even on this site. I especially liked the part about hijab. I used to be one of the many women who thought that hijab was another form of oppression, but I realized that was just my Western way of thinking. I wish more non-Msulim women in the West would wear burqas, that way i would be able to wear one without standing out.

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Maybe some women like the attention they get as sex symbols, but I do not. I like to think I'm modest, but I could be more considerate of those arround me. I've tried to see the perspective of men who don't want to be distracted by womanly curves. Maybe burqas would be overkill, but daisy duke's and other revealing clothing are just in poor taste.

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I've always tried to learn as much as possible about Islam or any religion for that matter.
The quote from Seneca the Younger was really powerful. And the whole idea that Christians did bad in the name of their religion along time ago, and Islamic people are today. Shows that everything, from countries to religions go through cycles, there is always bad. Christianity is a lot older of a religion than Islam, they will probably follow the same cycle.

What if you are of Christian or Jewish faith, and have found something of error in what you have written? I very much like your blog. It's very objective and I adimire your understanding for these three major religions. I don't agree with you that these religions are just built upon each other. I mean, the Bible clearly states that Jesus is the only way to salvation, and though these religions may believe in the same God, I think the ways to salvation are quite different.

I absolutely agree with you about these religions becoming corrupt, and just like Christianity was very much corrupt during the time of Constantine, the same is true with Islam today, but it's hard for many people to be objective in this way. Many people, including myself, have never thought about this concept, and I think it is a very important one to think about, especially for christians.

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I don't agree with you that these religions are just built upon each other. I mean, the Bible clearly states that Jesus is the only way to salvation, and though these religions may believe in the same God, I think the ways to salvation are quite different.

The foundation of Christianity is Judaism, and the foundation of Islam is Christianity and Judaism. Jesus followed the religion of the Jews and is said to be the Word who is with God in the beginning. And Islam is, according to Islam, the uncorrupted religion of the God of Abraham, the same god that Jesus and Moses served. They are different, but they do pick up where the others left off.

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What if you are of Christian or Jewish faith, and have found something of error in what you have written?

As long as it's objective and accurate. I specifically mentioned Muslim and not the other two because this blog stems from another one, in which the Christian I was debating with started getting upset and accused me of vilifying Christianity because I was pointing out the similarities between the religions. I basically got "how dare you relate those monsters to us!" from the conversation, instead of actual information, and have been forced to take with a grain of salt what just about any follower of the Abrahamic religions have to say about the others (especially what Christians have to say about Muslims).

I don't agree with you that these religions are just built upon each other.

Perhaps I was not clear on that, in which case I apologize. When I said they build on each other, I meant that they build on each other in the sense that each has taken basic beliefs from the prior ones and incorporated them into their own. Christianity and Islam, for example, both believe that Moses was a prophet and believe in his story of liberating the Jews from Egypt. They both still heed many of the teachings in the Torah, but have included new teachings (those of Jesus and, for Islam, those of Muhammad).

I think it is a very important one to think about, especially for christians.

The sentiment that I keep getting from Christians in regards to the actions of leaders in the name of Islam today compared to the actions of leaders in the name of Christ during the Burning TImes is that of "well, they weren't real Christians, but these people are real Muslims," or "that was 400+ years ago (also referring to the witch hunts of the 1600s), they're doing it now." Both of these always seemed odd statements to me, because on one hand, they're dismissing what their extremists have done, but use another group's extremists as indicative of the whole, or dismissing actions done because they were done in the past (this one is even more absurd when you also take into account Christianity's view of Paganism and neo-Paganism, particularly in regards to sacrifice. They often cite how pagans used to perform ritual human sacrifice and use that to claim that they still do it, and that was thousands upon thousands of years ago).

Thank you for the insightful response, as well. :)

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What I heard somewhere, and have pointed out before, is that Islam is at a comparable age to Christianity when the Crusades and Inquisition were going on and to Judaism when the Jews were wandering around the Middle East slaughtering various other tribes.

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I'm not sure about the part about the Jews because I haven't studied Jewish history beyond what's in the Bible (and of course, the Bible isn't going to give much detail about slaughtering other tribes), but a simple look at history shows that trend. 1500 or so seems to be that "magical" age of "let's use religion to destroy our enemies."

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"Now, have been women been abused in the name of Islam? Certianly, just as women have been abused in the name of Christianity. The question is, does the Qur'an (or in Christianity's case, the Bible) condone this behavior? In both cases, the answer is accepted by scholars as a resounding 'no.'"

As much as I'd hate to say it, the Qur'an (Quran, Koran) does condone and encourages practices Westerners find barbaric. One of my friends has a Muslim father (fortunately very much nonpractising) and has studied the book, which neither you (from what I can see) or I have done in any serious degree. He has claimed that Islam commands husbands to subject their wives to themselves in violent fashions.

"Think about the stereotypical Western woman - tight pants or tight, high-cut skirt, tight shirt or tank top that she nearly falls out of, 6" stillettos, some hairstyle that probably uses a good amount of gel and/or hairspray, and half a pound of makeup. Don't believe me?"

No, I don't. All that's really required is Photoshop(tm).

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...And I have yet to find someone who can back up those claims from first hand reading. From perusing the Qur'an myself, I have found things that could be interpreted as condoning wife beating or what have you, but further research suggests and a little more critical thinking suggests the exact opposite.

Also, I never said the stereotype was physically completely possible (though considering the things that can be done with hair given enough glue...) and wasn't at least partially Photoshopped. But considering the number of anorexic females in this country because they want to look like the Olsen twins or some model, particularly when model searches shun the more well-endowed ones for the skeletal ones because their "prettier."

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But I trust him implicitly. I'll get the references, look them up, and pass them on.

The second part was poorly thought-out humor.

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Thank you for that.

One of the big things I've found, at least here in America, is that a lot of people look at how people who call themselves Muslims treat a group of people, in this case, women, and attribute it to the religion itself, instead of the faulty (or even downright false and twisted) interpretation that it usually is. What makes it worse is when they then dismiss the actions of people of the Christian religion for doing things equally as heinous because of a faulty interpretation of the Bible (the treatment of slaves, the Burning Times, the treatment of black people after the end of slavery, to name a few).

Are there passages in the Qur'an that can be used to justify violence? Certainly. Just as there are passages in the Bible that can be, and have been, used to justify violence.

The second part was poorly thought-out humor.

Ah yes, I see the humor now. My missing it to begin with probably also had to do with some real life stresses going on at the time of replying.

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I used to be in the camp that thought the burkha and hijab were fundamentally oppressive, but after reading the views of some feminist Muslim women concerning it, I started to see the point. I still think that forcing women to wear it is a bit oppressive, though I dislike passing judgment on the cultural views of others.

The thing that brought the feminism of it all home for me though was when I saw one girl in the bathroom in Dubai. I noticed, as she lifted the skirt of her burkha that she was wearing converses... the only pair of converses I'd seen in all the times I'd been there, and an obvious counter-cultural symbol of the West. I was shocked and looked at the girls face looking for any sign of annoyance at having to put her burkha back on. Instead, all I saw was pride, self-confidence and determination in her face. This was no poor oppressed girl, but a strong, confident woman.

When it comes to other cultures, things are often not what we first believe them to be.

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Yep, I agree 100% on that because all of the places in the world are different, and I can't base my views by "American" perception-

Hi, I like that you tried to take an unbiased view of Islam but the truth is that Islam is a COMPLETE perversion of christianity. In the Koran it says that Jesus was only a man and not God and that anyone that believes that Jesus was God will go to hell or, if they agree that they were wrong and Jesus was not the son of God, they will go to heaven. Islam takes the whole foundation out of Christianity. Also, I agree that Christians have waged holy wars, but they were only doing what is natural. They were taking back the land that had been taken from them. That's why they killed. It had a purpose. Radical islamists are trying to kill the infidel and thus kill innocent people for no reason at all.

I think that it is better to decently research about Islam before making opinions that would offend people.

I researched about Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Taoism before making opinins about them, and I've learned tha tthey all promote peace, yes ALL of them do!

The media often portrays false views of Islam- so its better to research things without bias rather than be ignorant of the truth. I have many Muslim friends, so yeah...

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The radical islamists are trying to drive foreign militaries out of their country, how is that unnatural?

Islam is founded on the same basis as Judaism, you cannot deny that. Just because they don't believe in Jesus as the Saviour doesn't mean anything, Judaism doesn't think Jesus was the savior either. But they are all founded on the same principles. She was comparing the Abrahamic religions and you are only comparing two of them. Really it is Christianity that is screwing with the basis of religion not Judaism and Islam.

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So you're mad a Muslims for not being Christians. Why would expect a Muslim to believe as a Christian believes. And please stop making excuses for your own religion while applying different standards to others.

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I agree with your criticism of flutterfly. Really, what is the difference between a fundamentalist Christian who believes non-Christians are an abomination, and a fundamentalist Muslim who believes non-Muslims are an abomination. We need to be fighting radical fundamentalism in all its extreme and exclusionary forms.

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I'm so thankful for this blog and the effort that everyone has made to take an unbiased look at the three religions. We must discourage others from making statements that are ignorant and probably not what they would actually believe if they spent some time doing research like dragonwolf. We must meet ignorance with encouragement to seek knowledge.

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I'm really glad that there are some people out there that actually research about religions instead of learning about them from biased media. I think that everyone should live in peace because all of the religions are about peace. People in power do twist them to fit their own needs.

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I liked this blog because to me it seemed that you coverd all aspects and that you showed everything is connected. it's hard to be biased when you belive that everything is connected. I like an open mind.

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