Students Not Soldiers

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People have their own opinions of the military. I personally wouldn't join the military at all. The ad's on TV are all lies, they say that they will pay for college, give you work experience, and you will receive a lot of money! But really, its all lies...

College situation: The reason many students end up not going to college and decide to go to the military is because they think college would be to hard for them. The military says that by the time they finish their time in the military, they will be able to attend college with the money they receive. All lies!!! From what i know and have learned, most people returning from the military dont have money to pay for college, so they end up looking for a job.

"Work Experience": It is true that you obtain a job at the military, and it does give you work experience, but once you're out and in the real world looking for a job is going to be way too dificult! How on earth are you gonna find a job that requires to fix an army tank? or a military air plane? They end up getting jobs as security (which they could have done by not even going into the military) or something else. Work experience is only at the army, that experience wont really carry out in people's everyday lives.

Money!!!: 40,000 dollars a year!!! Wow thats a lot, but what they dont realize is that the soldiers get that money little by little by the military and now the soldiers have to spend it to buy the things they need...yes u recieve money, but its given to them monthly, which they spend, and when they leave the military they have nothing...

People could join the military if they want, but just think about it first.

Then the recruiters target students in high school, mostly in inner city schools. I noticed that in schools such as at san bernandino, pasadena, arcadia, and others out of the L.A. area, they have less JROTC classes...in the inner city schools, there is way more. It seems as if though inner city school are the one's targeted...We are students not soldiers. We cant give in to the military, its better to go off to college than the military

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I totally agree that makes perfect sense nd we shouldnt be in this war

Ok, so you guys are so totally wrong. You can get a college education in the military. My husband has been training for his job, and in 5 months has already recieved 32 college credits. He will also be able to take college courses through the military while hes serving for really cheap. Im not sure how much it exactly is, but its way cheap. And yes, its true that you cant get alot of civilian jobs with certain MOS' , but thats CERTAIN ones. And really, even those ones have their civilian jobs. And men and women in the military can always change their job. And wait, have you ever heard of the GI bill? ya, thats about $32,000 for people who are serving or have served in the military to use for college. So what again did you say about the military not paying for college? You are so wrong. And those ads are inspiring, not lies. Yes, military life is hard. Its not for everyone. But just because you wouldnt ever join is no reason for you to rag on our military. All your saying is lies. If my husband decides to get out of the military after his 4 years, he will be able to get a job with a starting pay of about $100,000 a year. Not only is he getting work experience, but hes getting an education. Hes doing more than most people ever will. you think you know everything, but you dont.

ediblewoman's picture
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One thing I will say is that military experience looks great on a resume. You may not have to fix tanks in the real world, but you will have to work with a team, take commands from people above you, problem solve quickly without second guessing yourself. There are also a lot of tech jobs in the military. Those are really valuable skills. Plus, the military is effing hard! Employers like to see that you survived it without cracking up.

I agree with the rest of your post, though. It isn't as cool and fun as the video game-looking commercials make it seem. And the recruiters do lie to students. A lot. And the GI bill gives people up to $30,000 for school (I think), but there are a lot of strings attached. Plus $30,000 doesn't cover that much school anymore.

http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman

thanks, i learned something new...but yeah, 30,000 is pretty much nothing anymore for college, tuition is way too much

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military looks great on a resume. if two people are up for the same job and one of them has military experience, the one with the military experience does give you jobs. Also, the military does give you money for college. They will pay for you to go to school if you want to be an officer. Also, there's civilian jobs close to military jobs. Someone who used to work on military airplanes could get jobs at Boeing or whatever aviation business is in the area. Helicopter pilots could become airline pilots. There's a lot of benefits in the military, but you have to actually join the military to know what they are. Also, the pay that the miltary get is per month but majority of the stuff you need in the military you buy on your own. Who wouldnt give up free housing? The military ads claim you can see the world. You can, its just you dont have a choice where to go. If you say in the military you wont go to a certain country because you dont feel like it, you will get a dishonorable discharge and it will go on your criminal record.

The incentive of getting an education in the military is just a bait for the fool to join. They don't really care about you getting an education. The military just want you to fight for them, risk your life instead of their (people in charge). The GI Bill is one of the biggest bait of them all. Just as ediblewoman stated in her comment, the GI Bill come with numerous string attach. Also the $30, 000 is over a 3 years span if I'm not wrong. That just $10,000 a years. The salary for the military is on a monthly basic but if you divide up the salary into hourly basic and compare it with civilian hourly wages, the military is the lowest paying job EVER.

My final comment is that if you are willy to put your one and I repeat only ONE life on the line just to reduce your college debt by $10,000 a years or whatever amount it may be, you better think twice. Don't put a price tag on your head. You may not feel pain when you are dead but the living closest to you will mourn for all of eternity.

BurningExample's picture
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You know, most soldiers really love to defend what this country stands for and see the GI Bill as a benefit to doing a very honorable job.

Your anti-military comments are really frustrating.

Just move to Canada or something.

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_Meke's picture
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Most soldiers? And how exactly do you know that? Most of the soldiers I know joined the army because they couldn't pay for college, or they just had no direction in life and did what ever the recruitment officer told them. Although we probably run in different circles.

Just move to Canada or something.
I hope that's a joke.

If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed...nothing shall be impossible unto you. - Matthew 17:20

BurningExample's picture
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I know that because I live and work with people who give their lives to defending this country and are very proud about what they do.

People who join just because they want to pay for college or because they were "brainwashed" by a recruiter kind of annoy me... and I'm not saying that to be rude. Honestly, I've grown up poor, but there's nothing that would make me join the military... not even a promise of college. The military is not for me; I'm personally not willing to make the sacrifice, even for full college tuition.

But most soldiers, every soldier I know, actually, which is a lot, is very proud of what he/she does.

And the Canada thing was meant as a joke. But loner should really be more appreciative of the military. The way [s]he talks is really hateful.

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_Meke's picture
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It didn't seem hateful to me. It seemed like s/he was genuinely pissed off that people join the military for that reason. I'm also pissed off about that. Anger and hate aren't the same thing. I may not know as many soldiers as you do, but I know my fair share, so I stand by what I said. I don't doubt that many are proud of what they do, but we can't pretend that every soldier joined the army to serve his or her country.

If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed...nothing shall be impossible unto you. - Matthew 17:20

BurningExample's picture
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Point taken.

The hatefulness is kind of stemmed from his/her other comments and blogs, so I suppose I was making a pretty generalized assumption of loner's opinions.

I feel the same way; it's stupid for people to join the military for that reason, so it pisses me off. But it seems like Loner is completely blaming and despising the military itself for it. At least it seems that way to me.

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Your Tongue is a Rudder; It Steers the Whole Ship, Sends Your Words Past Your Lips or Keeps Them Safe Behind Your Teeth... [Brand New]

I agree, who wouldn't love to defend for their country. What I was saying in my other comment was that a person who is going to college should not rely on the military for college aid for if one person die for just that reason, think about the still living. As I stated already, it is like putting a price on a person's head. If you join the military for the protection of what a country stand for, go ahead. I can't stop anyone but I advise against joining the military for college aid for it can have more dramatic negative impact if there was an unfortunate event.

_Meke's picture
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I agree. It actually breaks my heart that so many young people go into the military without thinking about the consequences of that decision.

If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed...nothing shall be impossible unto you. - Matthew 17:20

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