It's a classic

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When I was in the fourth or fifth grade, I received an award. I can't recall what the reward was for- something to do with reading or writing, perhaps- I can only remember that it was this really big thing at my school. Only a handful of students were selected for the award and it was presented to us during this big reception with our parents, our teachers and a slew of flashing cameras in attendance. My parents were thrilled that I'd won the award and got me all dressed up to attend the reception. I don't remember much about the reception or even about receiving the award. What I do remember, however, is what happened afterward.

Instead of heading home after the affair was over, my parents loaded me up and rushed me off to the bookstore. They wanted to reward my success with a brand new set of books, so after browsing for hours, we came upon a collection of classics. Romeo and Juliet, The Prince and the Pauper, A Tale of Two Cities, White Fang, Little Women, Jane Eyre, A Connecticut Yankee, A Christmas Carol and so many others all sat side by side, their hard spines calling my name.

My father and I reach out at the same time and selected a book. We ran our hands lovingly over the covers, our eyes wide. "This is it!" he exclaimed quietly, looking excitedly between my mom and I.

I nodded my head in agreement and we all set to work loading our baskets with every title they had on the shelves. By the time we were finished, I had a massive collection and was in book heaven. My obsession had officially begun.

We raced home to introduce my treasures to their new home. I didn't have a bookcase at the time, but had already begun to amass a collection of young adult fiction. My mom worked as a manager at a convenience store and would bring me home hard plastic milk crates. I had them stacked on their sides, five across and three up, and all of my books sat in neat little rows on those shelves, proudly displayed. I set to work making room for my new books, stopping every few minutes to pick one up and read.

I finally managed to get them all situated and selected one to read; The Prince and the Pauper. I curled up in my bed and read for hours that night. I read for days. Within weeks, I'd read every title we'd bought and was dying for more. Mom and dad were happy to oblige and would make a point of stopping by the book section of the store anytime they were there to see if they could find me a title I didn't yet own.

When they found one, I was ecstatic. When they didn't, I was so bummed I'd mope for hours before deciding to reread one of the classics already gracing my shelves. By the time my junior year rolled around, I no longer had the collection (it had never made the move to Arkansas with me), but I still collected books like others collected stamps.

My junior year, I got the chance to take a course in classic literature and was over the moon. I danced around in excitement for days, not even the frequent migraines spoiling the excitement. When the semester started, I dove in. We started with The Illiad. I'd read it already and adored it. Reading it again was a beautiful thing.

And then we got to Agamemnon. I'd never read Agamemnon, but had heard of Agamemnon and his rather pathetic assish life story through other tales and myths. So, I was uber excited to dive into it.

I hated it almost instantly. I'm still not sure why I hated it that first time. I just couldn't get into it, didn't appreciate it. Was bored to tears by it. Agamemnon was an idiot, Clytemnestra a vindictive hussy, Cassandra a fool, Aegisthus an ass. I forced myself to finish it, however and came away with little appreciation for Aeschylus.

Just recently I reread Agamemnon and upon rereading, decided it wasn't as bad as I thought the first time around. Don't get me wrong, it still isn't at all my favorite, but it isn't completely terrible either.

It did make me wonder though, what makes a classic classic? In some cases, such as Agamemnon, I'd probably argue that they're considered classics simply because they're really freaking old. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are other reasons... but if I'm honest about it, the really freaking old criteria seems to come first in some cases. And it really doesn't make much sense.

Ernest Hemingway said that "all good books are alike in that they are truer than if they had really happened and after you are finished reading one, you will feel that all that happened to you and afterwards it all belongs to you, the good and the bad, the ecstasy, the remorse and sorrow, the people and the places and how the weather was."

While I'm not sure I agree completely with him, I can certainly see where he's coming from. The classics, to me, are the timeless pieces that never get old, no matter how many years have passed since they were written. They are the ones that are as true in many ways today as they were when first penned. The ones we read not because they're really freaking old, but because even though they are really freaking old, they're still new.
They still have something to offer, no matter how many times you pick them up. You can still get lost in the story, still find a new moral or theme even if you've read it a hundred times and can still, in some way, come away from the reading feeling as if you've learned more not only about the time in which the piece was meant, but in the present time as well. They are the tales that make you think not because they are written in some archaic form, but because what is conveyed sets the wheels in motion despite that archaic form.

They are the ones that are, whether you liked them or not, remembered. Whether true or not, are honest. Whether comedic or tragic, are relatable. They are the ones that may make the traditional list of classics or may only make your list of classics.

That last point is probably one that most would argue with, but I think it's true nonetheless. That traditional list differs depending on where you get the list. There is room for personal preference on that list and there is no single acceptable definition of a classic.

Which leads me to a question for you...

Is it contrary to the purpose of having a list if we each have our own definitions? At some point, we all have to read at least one of the classics for some school assignment or another; how do we decide what makes the cut and what doesn't? And does it really matter if the book is on the traditional list or not to you?

I personally think you should pick which of the classics you wish to read, but that you should most certainly read them. A lot of students find them boring. I just wonder if we eliminated the required reading of a specific book and allowed them to choose which title to read... would it make the titles more appealing to students or would we just be asking for an entirely different problem?

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Having the list is not contrary to the purpose in this case. The list is influenced by personal preference and is therefore a subjective list, but anyone's list is still worth while. I think the best way to make your own list is to see what many others recommend and then start with the ones that appear on every list. Then work your way through the rest. I think that's the way that most teachers choose which novels to teach. They also consider which ones work together in a cohesive unit, and which novels can enlighten, expand, entertain, and connect with the students.

Because I too love reading the classics, it doesn't really matter to me if a book is on the traditional list. I usually read novels that are recommended to me, and I love to look through the displays at Barnes and Noble, but that's just a starting point. Once you have laid the foundation of classics a few books high, then you can make your own choices about what other novels are worth your time. Plus, so many of the classic novels reference other authors and novels, so I'm always curious to read something that an author felt was important enough to mention in their work.

I don't know if eliminating the reading of a specific novel would be effective or not. It would give the students some flexibility and choice in the matter, which could make them more active and willing participants. But its tough for teachers to do that and creative units that flow and work well together for the curriculum. And I have a feeling that most students these days would simply choose the book with the smallest number of pages.

Out of curiosity (and because I'm always looking for new recommendations) what books make your....let's say...top 10 (ish) list?

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Only tenish? In that case I would say

Candide
The Illiad
White Fang
The Secret Garden
The Divine Comedy
Wuthering Heights
1984
A Connecticut Yankee
The House of the Seven Gables
Caeser, Cicero and Alexander by Plutarch

Okay... so it's technically more than 10 with the last three... but they all three fascinate me. Most tend to circulate around with a few others, but Candide and The Illiad tend to stay. Candide makes me both crack up and think every time I read it and The Illiad is just an awesomely beautiful tragic tale that sweeps me away every time.

What are your ten?

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Bleh... I wasn't a big fan of A Little Princess or The Secret Garden. I guess I was spoiled too much by watching the movies first.

I absolutely love Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, and A Tale of Two Cities. I want to read the rest of Austen's books, but I've been so busy that I haven't had much of a chance. I've read the beginning of Sense and Sensibility a few times, but I always end up distracted. The Aeneid bored me. I liked Livy (though I'm not sure you'd consider him classic literature), and have a soft spot for Shakespeare.

I do really want to read a nice long list of classics, but I keep getting recommendations to read other books first that I never get to that classics list.

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I read both of the books (Secret Garden and Little Princess) before I saw the movies, so maybe that made the difference. The Secret Garden was one of the very first I read, so it's been on my favorite list for a long time. As is A Tale of Two Cities and Pride and Prejudice, they're two that circulate often with the others. Jane Eyre was okay, but it's one of those I have to force myself to finish. I just get bored with it for some reason. I liked The Aeneid, but I wouldn't consider it a favorite.

I'd like to read all of them at some point... that's a hell of a lot of reading though! I've started collecting them again. B&N has an awesome leather bound collection that I'm dying for. Hubby and sis have made this "no buying books for Fallon" decision though (they think I have too many already), so getting it's been a pain in the ass. I did get a really beautiful copy of The Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost though... so I've at least started. Reading them all (and owning most of them hehe) is on my list of things to do before I die.

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Hmmmm.....I think I would have to say (in no particular order)
Dracula
War of the Worlds
Jane Eyre
The Odyssey
Phantom of the Opera
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
The Last of the Mohicans
Anything by Roald Dahl, but especially Matilda
Tropic of Cancer
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and The Hobbit

My classics come from very different time periods and some are what I guess you might call "new classics" (like the Roald Dahl books). The ones from your list that I've read are Candide, 1984, and A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. I enjoyed them all, but the 10 I listed were enjoyed more.

Really there are only 3 classics that I've come across that I didn't like:
Crime and Punishment (but that may have been the translation I got)
Don Quioxte
Robinson Crusoe (I never made it all the way through this one)

Right now I'm reading V. by Thomas Pynchon and Paradise Lost, Madame Bovary, and Walden are on the top of my pile.

"Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent." - Victor Hugo

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I didn't much care for Robinson Crusoe either. Paradise Lost is pretty good and Crime and Punishment and Don Quioxte are on my list of still to be read. War of the Worlds was the first one my sister and I read together. Ah the memories.

I'd also add the Land of Oz series and the LoTR and Hobbit to my list... I still adore those. I've not read many of the modern classics, though they're on my list. Then there's the whole banned book list. It's just a matter of finding enough time in the day to get them all read. At least hubby agreed to me having my own library one day! By the time I make it that far, I'll probably need it.

Were any on your list assigned reading when you discovered them or something you picked up on your own?

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The only one on my list that was originally from an assigned reading list is The Odyssey. The first time through it I was pressed for time and didn't really enjoy reading it. The second though I really got a lot more out of it and I had the time to love/appreciate it.

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez was also on an assigned reading list, but I didn't really get that when I read it. I may have to go back and read it again as well. Catcher in the Rye and The Great Gatsby were two that were assigned that I didn't really like either....

"Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent." - Victor Hugo

Yup, I'm a music nerd.

Too cute. It is amazing how we can remember such things so vividly. Our minds seem to create the exact images over again and allow us to relive the moments. Nice post.

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I think it's kind of amusing that I can't remember for the life of me what the reward was or what we did during the reception but I can remember that trip to the store. Apparently, the books were far more interesting that both the reward and subsequent reception!

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The thing about Classical Greek literature is that it was all written in verse. Chances are, the story was much more compelling in the original Greek (sung, as was the standard in those days) than it is in printed English.

--Mike

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Probably so. Tales are always more compelling when sung for some reason. But some of it's pretty compelling even written. Agamemnon though... it'd probably take a miracle to make that one compelling. It's not terrible... but still not wonderful either.

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Not only that, but you lose a lot of the plays on words, the alliteration, assonance, and various other verbal qualities (Roman writer Vergil was really good at making the writing sound like his subject using R's and B's when talking about water and S's and T's when writing about fire).

--Mike

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Everyone knows me as a reader--- I always have a book in my bag and I get through it in about two days.

I kind of have an aversion for most "Classics," though, and I'm hoping that reading your blog will get me the motivation to add some of them to my list at my local library's website (I am a library girl-- the book store is a rare treat for me).

I can say that I wanted to kill myself when I picked up Oliver Twist... Dickens is definitely not for me. :)

Any suggestions for someone like me with an aversion to the classics? I'm a history nerd-- I adore Gore Vidal (with Hollywood and Lincoln and the like) and I'm a huge fan of Fitzgerald, but that's about as "classic" as I get, if you can call it that.

Help me read classics, Fallon! :)

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fallon's picture
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Hm, since you love history have you tried reading things like Plutarch's Lives? Those are always fascinating to me because of the historical context. Or try starting with the things that one wouldn't generally consider first when thinking about classics... Wizard of Oz, diaries, biographies, etc. Diaries and biographies aren't necessarily classics, but if you like history it might be what you need to get you interested in the classics... kind of give you an opportunity to relate to the author or whatnot.

What about things like The Call of the Wild, White Fang. The Secret Garden, A Little Princess? Have you read any of those yet? What sort of books do you typically read? That'd give me a better idea of what to recommend to you that you might not hate :)

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I tried Call of the Wild and it just wasn't my thing. It was good, but not like ... I don't know. I don't think I appreciated it as much as I should have.

I usually read stuff about drug addicts or prostitutes or lost little kids.... [inthecompanyofimagination.blogspot.com is my list of books i've read and crappy "reviews" so i can remember what they were about]

Anyway, I might be a lost cause, but maybe I'll try a few more of the basics, like you're suggesting :)

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fallon's picture
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In that case...
Go Ask Alice (considered a modern classic by some... Anonymous author about drug abuse)
Maggie: A Girl of the Streets (Stephen Crane... dysfunctional family, prostitiution, human nature, etc)
James and the Giant Peach (Roald Dahl... children's book but banned because of abuse discussed and drug claims),
Moll Flanders (Dafoe... prostitution)
and Lady Chatterley's Lover (Lawrence.. haven't read this one but have heard it's good... adultery).

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I love James and the Giant Peach! Also, The BFG (Big Friendly Giant). :-)

Another good one is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. About a young girl in a dysfunctional family.



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BurningExample's picture
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You guys effing RULE.

I'm excited... my library has this awesome "MyList" thing where you can make as many lists as you want so that you can remember what you plan to read/have read/whatever. I put books on hold when I want to read them and pick them up whenever they come in. It works out so that I only have to go to the library to pick up the book when it's available and usually they come at staggered times so I only have about two or three out at once.

I just added all the books you guys suggested to me "To Read" list!! THANK YOU guys! :)

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Sweet! I'm excited for you! Let us know how you like them when you get into them :)

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Psst, BE! \Have you had a chance to read any of those you added to your list yet? Did you like any of them? I wanna knowwww hehe!

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As Fallon mentioned, Plutarch's Lives are all right. I preferred Suetonius' Twelve Caesars and Livy's Early History to it. I've heard good things about Ovid's Metamorphoses, but I haven't actually had time to read that yet.

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I hate Dickens too.

You know who loves to make fun of Dickens? Mark Twain. That right there should get you interested in reading some of his books. :-)

I also second the Jack London books Fallon mentioned (White Fang and Call of the Wild). Those are 2 of the earliest books I remember reading. Not that they're like first grade reading material, I just started reading early. ;-)

To Reign in Hell by Steven Brust might inspire you to pick up Paradise Lost by John Milton--To Reign in Hell was based off of Milton's work.

Asimov, Heinlein, and Hemingway are three of my favorite authors. I've been reading them pretty exclusively lately, so of course I'm going to recommend anything they wrote. I especially liked End of Eternity (Asimov), The Glory Road and Stranger in a Strange Land (Heinlein), and, by Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises and Garden of Eden.



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