Taste Barrack Obama--Is it Poisonous or Progressive pie? PART III

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It's important for me to write this blog, because I believe it's the role of citizens in a democracy to ask meaningful questions (especially of their desired candidate) so that the end goal of defining reality is achievable.

It is not our job to seek inspirational speeches or vote on fantastic whims. But rather for the citizen to become as educated on the issues as she/he can, and to push the candidate who shows the most flexibly towards the will of that educated opinion rather than the will of moneyed interests.

Constituents of the Democratic Party have nominated their candidate. I nominated him with a number two pencil on June 3rd even though I knew I was ushering the chicken to the other side of the road-- the other side of the road that was quickly repopulating itself with wolves.

I understand that Barrack Obama has to appeal to a facet of groups that I could never think of asking for endorsement, let alone money or a vote. (Although I would love to appeal to the National Rifle Association because I think we share a common bond--increased public land trusts for recreation).

We live in an interesting time. A time when the sequel of Mr. Smith Goes To Washington cannot be filmed. A time when columnist George Will can stand on his high horse in front of Charlie Rose and explain that McCain-Feingold marked a terrible precedent in America's history. Dollar bills equal speech, he argues, and such a bill was unconstitutional. And yet a 5-4 majority of the supreme court ruled that Congress may regulate campaign financing to prevent corruption of political candidates.

Will writes in "McCain-Feingold's Wealth of Hypocrisy",

... by restricting the quantity and regulating the content and timing of political speech, the law serves incumbents, who are better known than most challengers, more able to raise money and uniquely able to use aspects of their offices -- franked mail, legislative initiatives, C-SPAN, news conferences -- for self-promotion.

That is to say, money is to democracy more important than the idea that needs spreading --OR-- you need money to spread an idea. I don't believe it, but I digress.

The reason I point to such troubling times in relation to Obama is a tribute to "The Iran Trap", which is surely a must-read for any Obama supporters. A lot of people, including myself, believe that Barrack Obama is an educator.

After reading portions of his novel, The Audacity of Hope, I was left with a greater perspective of issues and their complexities. Complexities he was more than happy to share. Complexities I think he shared in his race speech in Pennsylvania following the Jeremiah Wright controversy. Complexities I thought he might share June 4 at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

Eight minutes into the speech, Barrack Obama spoke of Zionism and the Halocaust:

I saw some of those very images at Yad Vashem and they never leave you and those images just hint at the stories that survivors of the Shoa carry with them.

Like Eisenhower, each of us bears witness to anyone and everyone who would deny these unspeakable crimes or ever speak of repeating them. We must mean what we say when speak the words never again.

It seemed only logical for him to conclude that the interests of Israelis and Palestinians are the same. I expected him to find common ground among the two cultures, because that was what he illustrated in his book so well--commonalities form the foundation for policy. I expected Obama to turn to the gross inequalities of living conditions in the Palestinian state that drive violence and unrest. In short, I expected him to educate.

And yet, he turned to the same sort of millitarism that has plagued our stagnant foreign policy for eight years; to the topic of Iran and the defense of Israel from people with brown skin. And away we go...

I will bring to the White House an unshakable commitment to Israel’s security. That starts with insuring Israel’s qualitative military advantage...

As President I will implement a memorandum of understanding that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade, investments to Israel’s security that will not be tied to any other nation.

Chris Heges writes in "The Iran Trap" at Common Dreams that "Obama went on to blame the Palestinians for the conflict, although the ratio of Palestinians to Israelis killed in 2007 was 40 to 1. This is an increase from 30 to 1 in 2006 and 4 to 1 in 2000-2005."

Where is his sense of complexity that characterized his speech on race? I'm concerned that he did not articulate what the university professors I've seen, who have made it their life to study Israeli-Palestinian conflict, have absolutely pronounced. We need a re-weighing of the causes and effects of our Middle Eastern policies.

At this point in the election cycle, I believe it's constructive for Obama's supporters to slash at his hanging fat if they see any. Do you remember the inability of the American media to ask the tough questions during the primary season?

Following the pitiful ABC debates, Ralph Nader wrote, "The two candidates were unperturbed by any questions from the reporters that they had not answered before or they were soft balls they could hit out of the ball park." He countered with an article of his own, reaching out to experts of many issues to compile their own question. Essentially, what would they ask Hillary and Barrack.

The former New York Times Middle East bureau chief and author, Chris Hedges, asked the following question in February:

The Israeli government is imposing severe and continual collective punishment on the 1.5 million people of tiny Gaza, which includes restricting or cutting off food, fuel, electricity, medicines and other necessities. Malnutrition rates among many children resemble the worst of sub-Saharan Africa. Israel’s leading newspaper, Ha’aretz, has reporters and columnists describing these horrific conditions and concluding that the ferocity of the blockade is detrimental to Israel as well as the Palestinians.

Collective punishment is clearly a violation of established international law. Prominent, former military, security and political leaders in Israel are speaking out against this punishment and calling for negotiations with Hamas. Do you, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, agree with these Israelis or do you continue to support the policy of collective punishment against innocent men, women and children in Gaza?

That's the type of complexity I was just waiting to hear from him speak of at AIPAC.

Sure, the media has dropped the ball in a larger way than giving a married man green-colored headwear as a gift (said to be a faux pas by Chinese culture).

But such a mismanagement of responsibility does not extend to the candidates who have already shown the encouraging ability to worship and pronounce the reality of the situation in front of any crowd. Are citizens so mute that we would see the potential of Obama and close our lips to the injustice of his June 4th speech?

How is Obama going to affect lasting change in Middle Eastern policies if he is unable to balance the equation and "tell things like they really are" (especially) in front of the AIPAC?

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Obama is very intelligent as is McCain. Whoever wins if it is meant to be it will work. Not all things work for the best right away but in the end it always does. We learn from our mistakes and correct them. We know both candidates have it's flaws and benefits. Let time tell which one will be more beneficial.

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McCain is an 82 or so year old baby who is fed intravenuously, and is being kept alive graciously by some people who are teaching him words to spit and tasks to fulfill so that they can get what they always wanted more of-money. He is not intelligent, and he will die before he can rectify any mistakes that he makes under the influence of younger, smarter, and evil GOP members, even if he learned from those mistakes.

As for Obama, that certainly is surprising. It does only go to show that he was just out for support from those who matter overseas. Fueling the MidEast war machine is definitely not in the ideal peace agenda. The Isrealis are dangerous...end of that observation. So you can't really expect anyone to announce to those hate-filled, hate-given people that you will cut all support flowing to them. Hopefully he will go back on his word and do it anyway.

In this millenium, a military only serves as a ball and chain for swinging; it will only prove detrimental in the end. Thanks to Eisenhower for pointing that out.

The Barack Obama pie sure tastes delicious, but it'll go straight to your thighs.

What I mean is, just because something seems great doesn't mean it is.

Money runs politics; an unfortunate truth. Barack Obama's got the most. At least he's promised to ban lobbyists from the DP. I wish McCain would follow suit; I suspect he will not, despite his usually good record on fighting corruption in government (such as his opposition to earmarks or the campaign finance reform bill you mentioned.)

Those words "never again," referring to the Holocaust, are the cruelest lie in recent times. Where was everyone during Bosnia or Rwanda? During the 20th century, approximately 50 million people were killed in genocide, starting with the Armenians in the early part of the century. Military intervention is clearly justified in such cases, and anyone who so much as whispers "never again" should be fully dedicated to such a difficult option.

I'll agree that Israel is certainly not the saintly victim in the conflict going on over there. The more they oppress Palestinians, and treat those living within the Jewish State as second class citizens, the worse they make their own problem. Maybe you recall a debate we had a while ago about the idea that extremism is often born out of a nation oppressing and occupying another people. I wasn't convinced back then; now, I too subscribe to the idea.

I haven't read Barack Obama's book, though I think I'll pick up a copy this summer. The only election piece I've read so far is Ron Paul's "The Revolution." Paul also advocates a fundamental reevaluation of our foreign policies. It comes with my recommendations.

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This is your best blog ever, GU! I will have more to say about it when I get my homework done. (Stupid summer class. Boo hiss). I wanted to tell you right away, though, that I think it's great.

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Thank you kindly. I admit-- Today was one of those fortunate Mondays when one has the day off from the conservation corps and the life of a king ensues. Makes blogging real easy-like.

Seems to me our writing gets better the more we do it on ProgressiveU. I've noticed in your case that well deserved praise has been showered upon your posts from the onset-- and never too lightly. I can't wait for the next installment, Edub...


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The italics made that even more meaningful.
:D

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Shit, isn't that the purpose of all italicizations?


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He has the power to create new words!

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Blog??? Did you mean book?

Wow that was well stated and not hard to read at all. SOme how I missed the first two parts....
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Sure, the media has dropped the ball in a larger way than giving a married man green-colored headwear as a gift (said to be a faux pas by Chinese culture).

I love how you drop that little tidbit in there. It made an otherwise awesome post even more awesome.

You bring up a very good question and in so doing, bring up the biggest question we as a society need to answer... why are we willing to ignore that the hard questions have gone unanswered and still voice unwavering support in our respective choices of candidate? We're so easily placated by the easy questions that it's really no surprise that candidates take the easy answer road. Unless we're willing to force the tough questions; we'll continue to get the same answers... we seem far too content with that. I'm not sure if that's more frightening or more sad.

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Yep, I believe it's the job of writers in a culture (whether eloquent, sophistocated, or neither) to ask the tough questions of candidates and representatives alike. In 2008 VOTING, if it ever was, has become not enough. That's what makes the blogosphere so valuable. Youngin's like you and me can participate.

On a note of levity-- I'm glad to hear about the awesomeness, although there's an embarassing story behind it. It all started when I forgot the spelling of faux pas and it resulted in looking --like any curious blogger-- at the phrase's history on the wiki. Fortunately the site was broken up into how each culture percieves the phrase. I was able to --more or less-- land on the chinese examples of faux pas.


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Voting is not enough is in the great spirit of progressiveu and very responsible!

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I wish candidates would stop taking such a hard-line UNcomplicated view of this issue. I understand on some level (as much as it pains me) that seeming TOO sympathetic to Palestinians could lose the support of people who see the middle east as a den of terrorism and Israel as a mini-US prime for attack. However, a more nuanced view of the situation, or at least one that included promoting diplomacy, would be a breath of fresh air! I completely agree with you that Obama is not living up to the idea of educating the public about complex issues and is, instead, moving toward the same ideas we've heard spouted before.

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that Israel will attack Iran with US assistance before election day and image the political and diplomatic mess that will create.

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Here's a quote from the article I cited--sounds conspiracy-atic at first, but the more I read the more I started to dig into it.

House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, in a letter to President Bush on May 8, threatened to open impeachment proceedings if Bush attacked Iran. The letter is a signal that planning for strikes on Iran is under way and pronounced.

“Our concerns in this area have been heightened by more recent events,” Conyers wrote. “The resignation in mid-March of Admiral William J. ‘Fox’ Fallon from the head of U.S. Central Command, which was reportedly linked to a magazine article that portrayed him as the only person who might stop your Administration from waging preemptive war against Iran, has renewed widespread concerns that your Administration is unilaterally planning for military action against that country. This is despite the fact that the December 2007 National Intelligence Estimate concluded that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in the fall of 2003, a stark reversal of previous Administration assessments.”

The administration, in rhetoric that is eerily similar to that used to build the case for a war against Iraq, asserts that the Iranian Quds Force is arming anti-American groups in Iraq and providing them with high-tech roadside bombs and sophisticated rockets. It dismisses the National Intelligence Estimate conclusion that Iran suspended its nuclear weapons program. The White House has not provided evidence to back up its claims. I suspect it never will. And when Israel’s Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz tells the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth an attack on Iran is “unavoidable” if Tehran does not halt its alleged nuclear weapons program, what he is really telling us is we should prepare for war.

Conyers’ threat is too little too late, especially if the Bush White House, possibly assisted by Israel, launches airstrikes on some or all of 1,000 selected Iranian targets in the final weeks of the administration. But it is an effort. Conyers tried.


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That is possibly the single most terrifying thing I've ever read in my life. Bush seems like a bitter woman going through a nasty break-up. He's burning all his ex's stuff before he leaves...
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I laughed at the analogy. But the possibility makes me frown like a Sesame Street Grouch.


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have stated that if it happens it could be over in 8hrs.

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That sounds oddly familiar...


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Yes, but also similar to Reagan's attack on Libya in the 1980's not referenced all that much.

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Sure, I see your point. The thing that worries me is that military officials blared that message ("if it happens it could be over in 8hrs") and... THEY WERE RIGHT, just as they were in Libya, yes?

It really doesn't surprise me and I guess it shouldn't---we have a superior military force. But in my opinion we have yet to learn the ancient Star Wars wisdom, With great power comes great responsibility.

Shouldn't we think of the consequences that come after the fun part? Do you think we've learned our modern day lesson?


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Today it was s announced that in May Israel did a Military Exercise - practice run
on bombing Iran.

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I like your similie better :D I'm not too happy about what Bush's doing either. He needs to just leave quietly like a good little boy and let the grown-ups take over now.
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without a lot of noise. In a Fox news interview it was said he would finish strong as Pres. Worse yet on television recently Bush warned Iran with the British Prime minister. Noticably there was the Iraq shuffle, same body language as invade Iraq Speeches.

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That's really quite frightening. I think you might enjoy this at YouTube... http://youtube.com/watch?v=jtw5Zy2M6rk&feature=related (especially at 2:50)


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Iran thing.
The Saudis could support it.
They hate the Iranians.

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Now that everyone knows how much of an evil criminal liar Bush really is, he doesn't have to be careful about anything anymore. He can be as brash as he wants, and not need to cover it up. Like some of you once said, if you were to die tomorrow and you couldn't do anything about it, you would just wreak havoc on the Earth today.

One good way is to open the domestic coastlines and Alaska to oil drilling. Deregulate as much as possible.

Another good way is to fuck up a lot of foreign relations. "I'm warning you Iran, stop being there! I'm trying to lift the ban on above-ground nuclear testing, but that doesn't mean you can make your own nuclear weapons!"

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George W Bush is the cause.

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