Old Age and Kidney Failure

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There is a man I know who is about 92 years old and my mom and I just found out that he had total kidney failure.  He was just in the hospital for 11 days, but his wife finally convinced the doctors to let him come home to die.  They live right on the water in New Jersey so it would obviously be better for him to die next to the calming water than inside some hospital room.

The doctors said that he's too old for a kidney transplant or dialysis.  I was wondering if anyone knew why.  I understand that he would need to be put to sleep for a transplant and probably would die, but I was wondering why they can't use dialysis on an old person.  I don't really know what umch about dialysis, but I was just curious is anyone else really knew why they can't use it on him.

I know he's really old so he probably will die soon anyway, but it's just so sad to have absolutely no chance of survival.  Also, does anyone know how long you can survive after having total kidney failure?  Because I get my wisdom teeth out Thurs. so I'm going to be recuperating all weekend, but  my mom and I really want to go visit this man.  I just don't know if he'll even make it past the weekend though.

Well, thanks to anyone who has and information on the subject.  And for any of you who do believe in God out there, I would really appreciate it if you just said a quick prayer for him.  This man is really the nicest person I know and his own children don't even care that he is dying because all they want is his money and his house on the water.  Thanks.

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Chasing Bohemia's picture

So sorry to hear about this.

In response, I have a grandfather who is in his early 80s who is using Kidney Dialysis as a method of treatment, however, this is at the very brim of valid candidates. You said that this man is 92.

According to this article (which you might want to review anyways, as it has some really useful information), high risk patients are those that are over 80 years old, and have a 50:50 chance of living more than 14 months. Some of those who live for longer than 14 months survive for several years.

"Sometimes it is obvious that dialysis is not going to prolong life, only reduce the quality of the remainder of a patient's life."

As far as operation goes, even for my own grandfather, men around this age are not good candidates for surgery. Their bodies are just too weak to deal with the heavy recovery processes that we go through when the body patches up after being, essentially, cut apart and altered. Even for a person our age, it is difficult to come back from such traumatic episodes of physical endangerment, especially if it requires switching an organ that is one of the body's main processes. Another consideration to take into account is: If you were a surgeon and only had one kidney, would you give it to a 12 year old facing kidney disease with a full potential for life ahead of him, or an old man who probably has little more than a few years anyways?

I feel it is very unfortunate that his family "wants him to die for his money and his house", but you might want to question what you're basing such a fervent statement on. Be careful of making statements like that: things often aren't as they appear on the surface.

In any case, I feel that if you talk to your parents, you can arrange some sort of visit. If he is conscious enough, I am sure that he will appreciate it if his family really is as bad as you say it is.

Hope that this feedback was useful to you.

Sometimes, it's not really worth all the trouble of a transplant when they're too old becasue of the state of thier body. Plus there is so much involoved in getting a transplant. The antirejection drugs could cause more complications and even kill him. Or sometimes the body is just too old to handle anethesia.

Yeah. My dad was an anesthesiologist, and he told me about some cases where they couldn't transplant because of an extremely high probability of infection or some other similar mishap.

Peppermintfrost, I hope that your relative is all right .. but there may be the chance that he won't make it. Enjoy the time you have left right now, for the situation can swing either way.

I'm sorry to read about this happening to such a nice person.

Dialysis is really hard on people's bodies, it hurts their veins the first few times of it, then the veins begin to toughen. However to go through a surgery at an older age its sucess rate isn't that high. Hold close to the time you have, he sounds like a very special person.

peppermintfrost's picture

Thanks for your comments, everyone. Unfortunately I had my wisdom teeth taken out Thurs. so we weren't able to visit this man, but so far he's still alive and sounds pretty good.

I am so sorry. I hope everything goes well. You never know when you will see a miracle.

I can relate. One of my really good friends just told me that she may have to lose one of her kidney's.

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