Hardly Murder...

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I cannot understand why some people feel the need to dictate others' lives.  Pro-choice on the issue of abortion is the only true way to give everyone an equal say about their futures.  By making abortion illegal, you would be infringing on the rights of the people.  If you have been afforded the choice not to have an abortion, someone who wants one, or needs one should receive the same opportunity.  Personally, I am against abortion- if I could, I would not have one.  But, just because I do not agree with it, does not mean that I must disallow anyone from receiving an abortion.  They are entitled to their freedom in American society.  Abortion is in no way "murder"; in our society, murder is killing someone (who has already been born) with malicious intent, and for some reason of personal gain.  Abortion may be used to spare a child from their impoverished family's hardships, or the horror of growing up knowing you were the product of a brutal rape.  Americans need to preserve this personal freedom by allowing others to make their own choices in life.

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This is my opinion so don't get offended I feel abortion is murder. It is a innocent humant life from the moment of conception and no on has the right to take that away. I think that there are so many more alternatives to having a abortion, adoption is always an option and even if you don't want to go through the paper work of an adoption all a new mother has to do is drop her baby off at any hospital, fire department, or police station, no questions asked. I feel that you'll never know what that baby could've done with their life if you don't give the child a chance to live. The baby could have been the person who would find the cure for cancer of aids or someone who would change the world, I think that everyone deserves this rite even the unborn.

I'm definitely not offended by your comment. Adoption does not always work out for the kid; they may be depressed or embarassed that they were adopted, and some kids are never adopted. I know you personally do not agree with abortion, like me, but do you think you have the right to tell others they cannot get an abortion? Why should you get to make the choice of not having an abortion, if they cannot make the choice TO have an abortion. I hope you see the main point I am trying to get across.

I see your point but it's not their choice, to me the unborn child is a human life and it's not in their hands wheter or not to choose to kill this innocent human life. This is a topic that I feel very passionately about and I do see your point but I don't agree with it, that's all I have to say.

Alright, I appreciate your opinion.

but by making it illegal you aren't even giving that baby a chance, they are human just like you even if they aren't born yet, they need a chance to be a part of this world. What about the rights of the baby? what becuase it can't talk it doesn't have a say or doesn't have rights? I see what you are saying but im sticking with my beliefs, and i personally think it is murder, because even if it isn't born, it is growing inside of you. Life begins at conception...Scripture reveals that from the moment of conception, god is creating a new and unique individual. The human embryo has moral significance and moral worth. It deserves to be treated with the utmost dignity and respect. The only exception to taking a human life can only be defended when it is the only way to protect another human life.

"Personally, I am against abortion- if I could, I would not have one. But, just because I do not agree with it, does not mean that I must disallow anyone from receiving an abortion."

I fell in love with this post mainly because of this quote. This is exactly how I feel when it comes to abortion. I don't see myself as physically or mentally being able to put myself through an abortion. But I'm not everyone else either. I don't believe that one person's thoughts should control the actions of many others. I love it when people are able to distinguish between what they personally feel or would do, and what others can do.
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I now feel inspired to rant about abortion in a post of my own!

I'm glad that other people in the world think like me on this issue. Thanks for the nice comments.

Why do everyone think that abortion is a simple topic and that we need to get over it? It is not easy for anyone to just get over it because it involves life and the termination of it. who gave man the power to justify the killing of an innocent life? What is the reason? In my opinion, many abortion factories (as i like to call them) have lied, demeaned, and even callously implied that it's nothing more than a big lump of tissue. Yeah, but what about abortion after the 10th week? What are they? I can't wait to hear they reasoning for them. Please, do tell us. Anyhow, abortion is something we as a civilized society shouldn't allow to happen. But it does. What will everyone who is pro-choice going to say in judgement day when they come face to face with the innocents whom they have killed as well as the Creator himself?

If you would have read my post, rather than emotionally rant with terrible grammar, misspelled words, and no thoughtful analysis, then you would have seen where I said that I would NEVER get an abortion myself (if I could), because I DO NOT think that it is right. HOWEVER, I also do not think it is okay for me to direct other people's lives. If I can choose NOT to have one, then they should have the choice TO have an abortion. Who gave YOU the power to play God, and condemn abortion? Everyone needs to stop their ignorant outlook, and see that although they may think it is wrong, they should NOT have the power to dictate others' decisions. And for your comment of, "It is not easy for anyone to just get over it because it involves life and the termination of it.", have you ever had an abortion? If not, then how do you know whether it is easy for people to "get over it"? People are all different; some may not care, others may delve into deep bouts of depression, but it was their CHOICE to begin with. I hope you will rethink your position. Remember, I am not saying you need to support abortion (I do not), but support the right of others to make their own decisions.

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chooses to abort something growing inside her body- as a Murderer

Wow...what guts and pride in their "righteous ideals and beliefs" some people have to call someone whose situation they are completely unaware of: A MURDERER'

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I agree with you wholeheartedly. Thanks for posting the comment.

you can judge me all you want, but I will not change my position on abortion. In the eyes of God to harm an innocent life is a crime against humanity. The simple fact of the matter is, I have studied abortion and the impact it has on people's lives. Every day, more children are being slaughtered because someone gave the mothers a "CHOICE". Should we just sit and allow this to continue? In my opinion abortion shouls be eliminated. Have you ever talk to someone who have had an abortion? Not just talked, but discussed it to it's fullest details? If not then you should go and do so more research on the impact of the mothers. I'm not putting down other people's rights, but what about the rights of the babies that suffers through the horror? Not all abortions were by choice. I suggest that you read more about mothers, fathers and abortion.

I never judged you in my post, I just asked you to reconsider your position. Babies that are not fully developed do not react like full-grown human beings. Without complete development, the brain cannot comprehend when something is happening in the early stages of development. Once again, I said that I do not like abortion, BUT I still respect others' opinions in this situation. Please answer this question...Why should you have the right to oppose abortion, if someone else is denied the right to support it? I do not think that you are seeing my point. The implications that will result from denying someone a personal freedom are unimaginable. Since the baby is not fully developed, they do not have a say in any option (because they are incapable of comprehension and they cannot talk); the baby is growing in the mother's stomach, so she has a right to do with it what she wants. That is undeniable, and the United States Constitution reinforces the right of the individual (the baby is connected to the mother, therefore, it is not an individual). If the mothers you talk about are so depressed, that is none of your concern. They made a choice, and they have to live with it. Thank God they had the ability to choose. Do you think people intentionally get an abortion because they think,"Yes! I get to kill what would be my own child! I just love abusing my personal freedoms so that I can keep getting pregnant and MURDERING those growing embryos in my womb!" Absolutely not. Everyone who gets an abortion gets one for a reason. Have you ever been with someone that said,"Hey, I'm kind of tired of walking with this baby in my stomach, and you look tired too.....let's go get ABORTIONS!!!!!" Once again, the answer is most definitely no. Let individuals decide their own fate in life- that is why we live in a democracy- to make choices on our own without the iron fist of a dictator directing our every move. You don't support dictatorial rule, do you?.......

Let me ask you this and then I will answer your question. Do you believe in God? Back to your question, I do not oppose anybody having the right tosupport abortion. But for me, why should I have to be criticized for standing on what I believe in? Yes the baby is a living soul and deserves to live even if the mother gives it up for adoption. The only thing that is actually holding the baby to the mother is the placenta. So technically it is an individual. Yes it is my concern. If that is the case, then should we not interfere if a man is beating on his wife or girlfriend? I know they made a choice but they also can have people who understand and who actually cares about them and their tragic circumstances. The abortion factories (not going to call them clinics) have basically lied not only to them but to the whole country and world. I wouldn't say that to God on judgement day. And that is why it's also going to hell as you can see. I'm not saying choice is a bad thing, but it's definately has consequences behind it as well.

Let me ask you this and then I will answer your question. Do you believe in God? Back to your question, I do not oppose anybody having the right tosupport abortion. But for me, why should I have to be criticized for standing on what I believe in? Yes the baby is a living soul and deserves to live even if the mother gives it up for adoption. The only thing that is actually holding the baby to the mother is the placenta. So technically it is an individual. Yes it is my concern. If that is the case, then should we not interfere if a man is beating on his wife or girlfriend? I know they made a choice but they also can have people who understand and who actually cares about them and their tragic circumstances. The abortion factories (not going to call them clinics) have basically lied not only to them but to the whole country and world. I wouldn't say that to God on judgement day. And that is why it's also going to hell as you can see. I'm not saying choice is a bad thing, but it's definately has consequences behind it as well.

Yes, I do believe in God. I am in no way atheist or agnostic. Now that you have that information, I hope you will answer my previous questions. On the post I am now replying to however, there are some misconceptions (or what I believe are misconceptions; I don't want to offend anyone) about whether the underdeveloped embryo (I refuse to call them babies), is an individual. You say that the underdeveloped embryo is only connected to the mother through placenta. Well, placenta is NOT the only thing connecting undervdeveloped embryo to mother; there is also the umbilical cord (which is cut at birth), and numerous other connections to pass nutrients into the embryo's body. If the baby is "alive" and able to function in the first, or even the second trimester, then a woman should have a C-section to have the "child" removed. What do you think would happen to this "fully developed and capable baby"? It would die. Even with our advanced medicine, we could not save this embryo's life at such an early stage. So abortion in the first and second trimesters is not murder, because if you removed the "baby" yourself, then it would certainly die. I am ONLY asking you to answer one more question...If you do not oppose the right for other's to support abortion, then why are you attacking my belief? I even say that abortion is TERRIBLE and that I would never get one myself (if I could), BUT I do not think it is my place to DICTATE the lives and decisions of other full grown adults who are PERFECTLY CAPABLE of making their own decisions....they have to live with their choices, NOT you. Once again, I hope you can at least acknowledge my point that I am trying to get across. By the way, spousal abuse, or any abuse for that matter, is in NO WAY related to abortion. The people invovled in domestic violence cases are BOTH individuals...in abortion, there is ONE individual. In case you are a math person (I am not, but I just want to give you a different perspective), one is NOT equal to two, therefore, abortion is NOT equal to domestic violence. Thank you for continuing this discussion.

No matter what you say, the embryo is still a little human, just not formed yet. The placenta and the umbilical cord are still the only thing connected to the mother. Therefore once again I will stand by my position that it's still an individual. I don't really understand how anyone can say that's it's ok to murder something just because it isn't "formed". It just puzzles me. I am not attacking your beliefs, I don't agree with what are you saying just like you're probably not going to agree with my ideas. It's never ok to dictate others lives, but someone needs to stand up for the rights of those whose voices cannot be or is not heard. Yes abortion and domestic violence are pretty much the same. Here's why I say this, in abortion, the victim(the unborn child) is is put through a violent situation. Same difference with domestic violence, the only thing though is that violence is occuring between two adults. Speaking of domestic violence, you need to read more about domestic abuse and abortion. Many pregnant women who are in abusive relationships are forced or coerced into having an abortion by their partners. So the link between abortion and abuse is similar in many ways. You're welcome.

You can stand up for the mother or underdeveloped embryo (I've never advocated for an unborn emryo myself, but to each his, or her, own), but there should not be a law passed restricting abortion. You and I agree that abortion is bad. We also agree that dictating the course of others' lives is not okay. Therefore, you can say abortion is bad (like I do) and still say that other's have the right to give AND exercise their opinion, which means no law prohibiting abortion. If the government censors one part of our lives, what is next? I'm glad we agree on a few issues.

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