Recently, a bunch of protesters have been surrounding my campus, yelling out their opinions and how they feel we should vote in the upcoming election. I actually agree with many of what the protesters are arguing for but I'm not sure if I agree with how they are saying it. While it is okay to tell everyone what is going on (how abortion effects everyone, not just the mother) I don't know if it's going to help to scream at the mothers about how terrible they are. On the other hand, I don't like the mothers yelling at me that I am a horrible human being for thinking that abortion should be illegal. I don't think that ending a life that you don't own is right. I think it is the most horrible thing a person could ever do and should count as murder. I don't think they have any right to kill someone...and yes, a fetus is a HUMAN. So why am I horrible persn for feeling this??? That is why I have my doubts when they complain about the people protesting agaisnt abortion. After all, if I was to say how I felt, they would probably attack me! So I am not on the students side at all, at least on that. And I agree that it is free speech and these people do have a right to be pickening and expressing their opinions. I just wish they wouldn't stand in the middle, screaming about horrible everybody is for doing it. I wish instead that they would show love. Even though I have been called a horrible person for thinking abortion is wrong, I still love the people who said it to me. I just don't understand this world sometimes. I don't understand other people's minds. And I think my campus will continue to be divided on this issue. And that is only the option issue. There is, of course, still the issue of gay marriage. That one I don't even want to get into. I probably would be attacked for any thoughts on it. It seems that while this country is for free speech, they don't want people to actually use the right. And that's wrong. So I don't care if people speak up against gay marriage. They have a right to. But i don't like how the people for gay marriage assume that everyone hates them. It doesn't mean we hate them. It just means that we don't feel they should be able to get married. I think the media supports it too much. I think that if the media didn't protray the "feelings of being gay" and write magazines that say "Are you gay?" there wouldn't be this problem. People wouldn't think they were gay. Because I think it's all in the head. I probably just opened up a huge can of worms. All I'm saying is that I am AFRAID to express these opinions on my campus because most students are for it. It seems that if you are agaisnt abortion or gay marriage it is wise to keep your mouth shut. Because if you don't, you are considered judgmental. And that's wrong. That's as wrong as the people who kill people for their beliefs. Sometimes I don't understand this world...
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When you said "its wise to keep your mouth shut if you're against abortion and gay marriages" I totally understand what you mean and somewhat agree. The whole abortion thing, its so complicated and I dont think I could ever be on one side. There is so many situations when abortion could be needed but then, there the times where its abused. So who can really say its a good or bad thing? However, with gay marriages, I am for it 100% because I believe love is love no matter what gender.
BUT, I feel that even if you dont agree with it, you should still voice your opinion. You're still a human and you voice still counts. Even thought you disagree with it, this is what makes diversity and what makes the world turn. Maybe your campus isnt the right place to express your feelings, but please dont let that stop you.
When it comes to the gay marriage subject, it seems that the only back up people can come up with on why its wrong is because "it says so in the bible." Well, not all Americans are Christian, so why should they follow what the bible says?" I question that a lot it seems. And the whole "its all in their head" I cant comment, because I really dont know why someone is gay. Ive never really thought about it. So no, you didnt open a can of worms with me =D
And yes, im right along with you, sometimes I just dont understand this world...
Alright so we have a freedom of speech...wrong. We have the right to freedom of speech as long as it doesn't piss someone else off. We should be able to express or opinions and not have to worry that someone will shoot us or trash our cars for it. We need to be careful of offending people and not take it to the extreme, but we are all entitled to our opinions.
I agree completely. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion. The general public should be respectful and courteous enough of the other person to all that opinion. We aren't all going to agree, but this is where people need to agree to disagree. Sadly we've lost common courtesy in this country.
Incorrect. The thing people need to figure out, and figure out QUICKLY, is that it is freedom of speech, period. Allow me to cite my sources:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
What this says is that you can say what you want and no governmental agent, from the President (because he is bound by laws that congress makes, if you remember 8th grade history. Or do you?) to a public school teacher, can stop you. However, people not bound by these constitutional edicts (such as average joe on the street) may very well get very offended, and while they have the right to be offended, but the government cannot do anything to stop the offense. Free speech isn't about keeping quiet, and I suspect anyone who espouses such a view to be a danger to liberty.
If I do not have to worry about being offended where I go, then I have lost a basic freedom.
The words "Freedom from" are a source of great evil in the world.
Mad Jack is very correct. Even his reaction, that of mild horror, is the proper one (unfortunately it's my reaction, too to most of the people on this site).
But---with that penultimate sentence, do you mean that if you don't have to worry about being offended anywhere you go, then it is the people around you (and not your own self) who have lost a basic freedom, by not being free to speak offensively if they wish?
Michael Allen Yarbrough (PBUH)
Well, we are suppose to have freedom of speech, but MelissaLawrence is right, as long as it doesn't piss people off. They already took prayer out of school for the most part, just an example.
I am a not afraid to voice my opinion no matter who doesn't like it. I do not go run out and scream at people, but when it comes up in conversation or something similiar I talk. Granted people could do something harmful to me or my property but thus far nothing has happened. I the perfect world we all would be able to say what we want with no reprocussions. ( I can't spell, btw. )
I do not agree with gay marriages. Yes, because I am a Christian. But also, if you look at it scientifically it shouldn't be that way either. How many animals do you see with same sex partners? The bodies do not fit together and their is no reproduction. Now do not get me wrong, I have friends that are gay but that doesn't mean I agree with the choice.
I do not agree with abortion as birth control, nor as a way to get rid of a "problem" for a teenager or a Deb. However, in cases of rape or health issues I can see reason.
I suggest you check your facts. Homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom. Penguins, Bison, Dolphins, and many other species, throughout all areas of the animal kingdom and often in both genders, can be regularly seen in homosexual practices. Think for yourself, don't just believe what your pastor tells you.
I have never had the biblical conversation at church. I am a Christian but I do not attend church regularly. I read a lot and part of what I read is the Bible. Anyway, you never take what a pastor says for fact either. You use him/her as a guide, go home and look it up, cross reference, and think about it on your own. So I am thinking for myself. Also I said in my opinion. I said nothing about facts.
I didn't say having practices I said relationships among animals that mate for life. Again, my opinion not fact.
Leviticus says a man shall not lie with another man, or another man's wife, etc
Leviticus says many, many things. I'm sure if we went into detail I could find you, and your significant other, if applicable, guilty of several offenses for which the prescribed punishment is stoning. Take ye into account that the term "New Testament" means that a lot of that old stuff required of us by God is obsolete, and that the new teaching is, more or less, "Play Nice"
Leviticus says many, many things. I'm sure if we went into detail I could find you, and your significant other, if applicable, guilty of several offenses for which the prescribed punishment is stoning. Take ye into account that the term "New Testament" means that a lot of that old stuff required of us by God is obsolete, and that the new teaching is, more or less, "Play Nice"
Leviticus says many, many things. I'm sure if we went into detail I could find you, and your significant other, if applicable, guilty of several offenses for which the prescribed punishment is stoning. Take ye into account that the term "New Testament" means that a lot of that old stuff required of us by God is obsolete, and that the new teaching is, more or less, "Play Nice"
This is exactly what the person who started this thread was talking about. Being afraid to voice his/her opinion because it is going to upset other people or cause them problems.
http://www.probe.org/faith-and-sexuality/homosexuality/
....A practical problem with this argument is that more than just homosexuality would have to be deemed morally acceptable. The logical extension of this argument would also have to make bestiality and incest morally acceptable since prohibitions to these two sins surround the prohibition against homosexuality. If the Mosaic law is irrelevant to homosexuality, then it is also irrelevant to having sex with animals or having sex with children.
More to the point, to say that the Mosaic law has ended is not to say that God has no laws or moral codes for mankind. Even though the ceremonial law has passed, the moral law remains. The New Testament speaks of the "law of the Spirit" (Rom. 8:2) and the "law of Christ" (Gal. 6:2). One cannot say that something that was sin under the Law is not sin under grace. Ceremonial laws concerning diet or wearing mixed fabrics no longer apply, but moral laws (especially those rooted in God's creation order for human sexuality) continue.....
New Testament passages concerning homosexuality are: Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:10
Regardless, one sin is not bigger or worse than another. Disobeying is disobeying. I am not perfect, no one is. Everyone has sin. Everyone can be forgiven. Premarital sex is a sin, I did it. I have also since been forgiven. I drink on occasion, I tried marijuana in my younger years, I have a potty mouth from time to time, I've lied, etc. I am not perfect, which is why Jesus died. Even though I try to do what I am suppose to do, I mess up and make mistakes.
I am not condeming homosexuals and saying they are going straight to hell. Even murderers can be forgiven and set on the right path. One of my very good friends is a lesbian. She knows I do not agree with it, but it doesn't stop our friendship. The topic was brought up and I just do not agree with it. I do not agree with the things I have done in my past, nor my husband's past. We have since lived, learned, and prayed. I am very firm believer of "you reep what you sow", known to non christians and even some christians as Karma. I have paid for some of the sins I have commited and I am sure I will for the rest of my life. We are not Bible bashing Chrisians. We met in church when we were 15, we no longer go to church on a regular basis. We pray and read. We are hopefully going to keep our son from making some of the same mistakes we did as teenagers. However, we are only human and humans make mistakes. Luckily, there is someone who lives inside us that helps make it right again.
I do not believe that people are "born" gay. I think that something happens with them that they either do not remember or talk about. they could also be born with more masculine or feminine tendencies and just over the years mold it into homosexualism. Instead of the masculine female finding a feminine male.
But of course this is just my opinion.
When I wrote this, I wasn't trying to create any sort of fight. I just wanted to let you know what was going on and how I don't like it.