I wish everyone would stopsterotyping our military..
so far i have counted about 10 blogs blasting our military, saying that if you join, you will automaticaly be sent overseas. Alot of people fail to take into consideration, that the military has alot fo offer, not to mention the fact that not all people who join are nessarily sent overseas, right not it is on a voulenteer basis. There are many benefits to being in the military as well, when your sent overseas if your married you get seperation pay, not to mention extra pay if your in a dangeruos area. Also they get health benefits, and housing. The military knows how to take care of their men and their families. So it really bugs me when people blast the military and our government.
Right about now, if we did not have the military, we would probably be speaking German or Japanese. Our men go overseas and sign up for the military so that you guys can have a right to blast them, without our military there would not be a first amendment. All the young ladies who let their tatas hang out and wear skirts so short you get a kitty shot and they sit down, would be stoned to death....
without our military, we would all be one religion. we would not have the rights or privileges we do, us young ladies would not have had the right to even consider to vote. We would not have the right to freedom of a peaceful protest, why? because our military was not here, so you would be executed for trying to stand up for yourself, oh, and kiss that right to a fair trial goodbye. because we had not military to protect our country, so we would be taken over by some other country who does not take care of their people.
I really wish people would research our military before blasting them. you only see what you see from the media who wants all of you to think our military are a bunch of baby killing assholes who drink to much and only know how to say oohrah. but there is another side to the story. they do so much more, my dad served in the Indonesia tragedy, brining food and water and rescuing people from the derbies. my mom served in desert storm as well as my uncle, and i am sire you read my blog about my grandfather,
my husbands ship goes out and catches drug dealers and makes sure they do not traffic drugs into our country, they brought over 500,000.00 worth of cocaine alone back..
there is so much our military does for our country you guys do not even take the time to research, all you see and think about is this war going on, and don;t take in the fact we are doing other things as well.
Also, the general public does not even think of the sacrifices these men take to protect us, they have to be separated from their families, in my husbands case, he miss the birth of our daughter by a week, as well as three other guys on the ship missed their little ones births, they miss anniversaries, birthdays, holidays, and still maintain family ties.
So before you go knocking down the military, take in the fact that these young men sign up for it, they volunteer to protect us and sacrifice their time, and lives so that you can go and abuse what they are doing.
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I have seen blogs on here about that. I think it is wrong. Although I do not know anyone in the military my heart goes out to the men and women who fight for us. I wrote a blog awhile ago about how our soliders and citizens make up America and our soliders are our backbone not policticans.
I agree with you and understand why you are so pissed. If I could serve I would unfortunately I can't because I have asma (sp). I understand people's assumptions if they sign up they will go over to iraq because since we are in the middle of a war, this is an understandable assumption. I am glad though you set the record straight.
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Allot of people do not do the research though. i am glad some people read this. It is aggravating. Esp when my husband and i go out and he is in uniform. People say some cruel things. it makes me want to buy an old hoopdie and run them all over ha ha jk,.
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God Bless the US Military.
(I'm the son of a Marine)
So you support the new G.I. bill, right?
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I do not support Taxing the rich because they are Rich, no.
I do support cutting social welfare programs in order to give our men and women in uniform free education, sure.
Do you support our men and women in uniform enough to cut spending on social welfare programs that are doubling the effort of private charities in order to provide free education to our soldiers?
Or are you only willing to help our troops if we can steal more money from rich people who already pay a VAST majority of our income tax? (remember that the top 50% of wage earners pay 96% of income taxes . .. that's hardly 'fair')
If you're trying to mislead people by saying they are somehow unable to pay what has ALREADY been reduced to 9% of taxable income, feel free. If you'd like to defend the salaries of people making upwards of one million dollars each year while dismantling much of the incomes of impoverished people on federal programs like TANF (even more), Medicaid and Food Stamps-- please be my guest.
We don't need to cut social spending. We don't, you may agree, need to raise federal income tax brackets to 1960s levels (33%, that's how much it's been reduced). We don't need to fight imperialistic wars for the benefit of reduced oil prices. We need to defend our country domestically--our safety and our economy.
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ERRT... lie. The top few percent pay 1/3 of all income tax. The top 50% of wage earners pay 96% of income tax.
That means that most of the lower 50% pay NO taxes.
Yet continuing to 'tax the rich' is ok with you? having to pay the majority of the nation's taxes just isn't enough for you? How much of their money that they earn should they be required to pay?
Don't give me a percent of income, because that is misleading. If I make 100,000 dollars a year and pay 10%, that is 10,000 dollars.
If I make 30,000 dollars a year and pay 10%, that is 3,000 dollars.
So tell me, how much of the nation's taxes should the top 10% of wage earners pay?
Do you believe that everyone wealthier than you deserves to pay more in taxes than you do? Why? Why punish people for succeeding?
You smell of socialism, clear and true. No problem overtaxing the rich. They're rich, they 'deserve' to have their money taken from them,
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You're a college student, I take it. For your next A that you earn, we're going to ask you to take a C instead. There's a student that didn't study and got an F, so we're going to give part of your A to them so that you both have C's. That's fair isn't it?
More of that biased wording. Your posts are little more than asking "Hey, have they caught you beating your wife yet?"
I defend the American Dream, which is you working hard to achieve. Success is not something to be looked down upon or punished. "Sorry, you made more money than I think you should.... that's going to cost you."
Nothing more than petty jealousy and dislike for success of others.
our 'social spending' outweighs our military spending, yet it is the military... our PROTECTION... that you want to cut.
There are private charities that government programs are duplicating, and you want to cut the one thing that private groups are not duplicating.... military spending.
Where does your hatred of the military come from? It is shared among alot of the left. I have never understood it. Is it because we win?
Ahh, the imperialism lie again. Please tell me where the 'stolen' oil is or what land is now a part of the United States in this war on terror?
We've taken nothing and asked for nothing but friendship. To you that is imperialistic.
Good, then I presume that you support closing down our 4 borders, cracking down on illegal immigration and punishing those that foster it?
If you'd like to argue that dismantling the Iraqi government is an act of "protection", be my guest. Show me the reports that link those countrymen to terrorism.
In 2003 the Bush administration claimed that the invasion would pay for itself in oil. His administration was stacked with oil profiteers and ex-Halliburton officials. Building permanent military bases in the country also smells like imperialism. Empires have resulted in destruction throughout history. Rome, Soviet Union, etc.
"You smell of socialism, clear and true. No problem overtaxing the rich. They're rich, they 'deserve' to have their money taken from them, He he...?"
Read this next paragraph carefully. You haven't not rebuked what I'm about to write when I've written it in the past--- you've asked a perpetual question and labeled me an illogical bastard who is selfish (with no ambition but to discolor more sucessful people).
I support taxing the rich because they use the American court system, our rivers, our streams, our systems of communication (the things we own collectively) at a higher rate than the average citizen who makes less money. Why shouldn't they be tasked with the maintenance of such systems?
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I agree with you. I just think a lot of people are frustrated and feel like they have to blame something on someone. I think we all realize the benefits the gov. gives us , but there are the negatives that fall between the cracks at times. As far as the military, I think everyone is just ready for it to be over with. Yes like you said we tend to believe what the media tells us. We rarely listen to the people that actually went through the ordeal.
Yes! Lets extend G.I. benefits to these brave people. According to the A.P., "The new GI Bill would essentially guarantee a full-ride scholarship to any in-state public university, along with a monthly housing stipend, for individuals who serve the military for at least three years. It's aimed at replicating the benefits awarded veterans of World War II."
If you feel so strongly about rewarding soldiers that return to this country, write to your senators (the bill is being negotiated in that chamber) and suggest they vote 'yes'.
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What isn't mentioned is that such a bill is not to be paid for by cutting spending elsewhere, but by producing a special tax on 'the rich'
One of my few 'big government' beliefs is that those who serve at a time of war ought to have a free education.
However, it should not come as a punishment to those who succeed via a tax on 'the rich'
I'd love it if they put out bonds again like they did during world war 2, that'd let people volunteer their money.
You know, the bloated defense budget is looking tempting to me...
I'd love it if they put out bonds again like they did during world war 2, that'd let people volunteer their money.
There aren't government bonds available for you to purchase?
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Yes, we're at a time of war with open borders... let's DECREASE the money we spend on defense.
That's your plan? ... heh.
No, let's cut social welfare programs. Most of them are duplicated in the private sector, which is a MUCH better steward of money, with much lower overhead and much higher success rates of getting people OUT of poverty.
As for bonds, there are general US Savings Bonds available, but I'm talking about War Bonds like those sold in World War 2.
Different type of bond.
Well said on the bond bit.
You might agree that our defense spending is bloated by unnecessary nuclear weapons creation and a star wars program. I think our critical difference, however, is that you would rather unilaterally prop up a government overseas than aid our citizens within our borders. And this disagreement is understandable. You think this serves the public good more.
I know what you'll say to defend the defense spending-- something to the tune of 'we needa fight 'em over there so we don't see 'em here' or an Ann Coulteresque rebuttal. Okay. I see that logic.
But from what I understand, our mission is ill-served by occupation, which fuels the fire, leads to more fear and hate among Arabs and Persians.
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Nope. I do agree that we spend alot of money on weapons systems and a missile defense net. But I do not believe that our defense spending is bloated, nor do I believe that it is unnecessary. Those are words you put in there to make what we are doing seem unreasonable. That is your personal anti-military bias showing through.
Nope, once again you fill your post with very biased wording to make any position other than yours seem crack-pot and unreasonable. I believe that the cause of freedom is paramount to humanity's survival and that fighting oppression and tyranny are responsibilities of those with the ability. (And, despite what the anti-war people think, the United States is not an oppressive country, nor are we imposing tyranny.) I believe that the citizens within our borders (who are here legally) are MUCH better served by the private sector than by dependence upon the government. It is through private charities that those in need can not only receive help, but get OUT of total poverty.
I've been in poverty. For a few months over a winter while I was a high school student, we didn't have a home. I slept in the basement of my grandparents' townhome. We did receive help, then worked hard to get out of poverty. I'm by NO means rich, but it is through personal sacrifice that I am no longer dirt poor.
Dependence upon the government for our daily needs is not 'help' . .. it is slavery. Freedom is independence. THAT is the American Dream. You'd gladly sacrifice freedom for the sake of an easier life. Apathy leads to Dependence.
For someone who doesn't know me, you sure assume an awful lot about how I think and what'd I say.
Yeah, we're not occupiers, but the tyrannical and oppressive terrorists that we're fighting across the world sure appreciate you pushing that idea. You want to see oppression, research about the mass murder, mass torture and executions under Saddam in Iraq. Look at the 100,000 Kurds who were killed for not supporting Saddam. Then tell me how giving them freedom to choose their own government is 'occupation'
If we were occupiers, we'd have made Iraq part of the US, or at least stolen oil. If we are occupiers, then we are the WORST occupiers in the history of occupation.... we haven't taken anything, but we continue to give freely.
To you, apparently, that is evil.
I hope your definition of occupation is different from mine. We haven't set up permanent United States military bases? Ha.
I do have personal military biases. I have a natural skepticism. Tell me if this sounds crazy: I don't think our government always has our soldier's best interest in mind. Not only were the reasons for military invasion of Iraq (not Afghanistan!) fabrications, the Defense Department did not adequately prepare for said invasion (not enough troops). Who pays for this mishandling of war? Sure taxpayers, but more importantly soldiers and their spouses, like this blogger on ProU.
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As the daughter of a WOMAN in the military, who served in both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom (though she was quite a distance from the fighting), as well as in Afghanistan since our involvement there, and might do it again within the next year, and currently goes to a university (well, until Friday) absolutely filled with military people and their spouses, I disagree with a lot of what you say.
There are many benefits to being in the military as well, when your sent overseas if your married you get seperation pay, not to mention extra pay if your in a dangeruos area.
And enlisted members STILL make crap when it comes to pay. One of my mom's friend would have lost her house by now if it weren't for a law stating that banks can't foreclose on a house if it is owned by a member of the military and they are serving overseas. The GI part of town is really really trashy. Most military housing sucks (the duplex we used to live in on Ft. Bliss had several nests of cockroaches. The house they assigned based on my stepdad's status even had them in the fridge. My mom managed to pull rank to get us a better assignment).
Not to mention that money does not make up for the fact that your spouse (or parent) is in imminent danger ALL THE TIME. It may make it easier to pay the bills, but it certainly doesn't make life easier in general. The health benefits are really the only thing I love about being an army brat, and the thing I'll truly miss when my benefits expire in September.
All the young ladies who let their tatas hang out and wear skirts so short you get a kitty shot and they sit down, would be stoned to death....
without our military, we would all be one religion.
Bullshit. We'd be just like any other country, with various religions. Even the 'Islamic' nations have people of different religions residing there. China even has people of religion, and they have a dictatorship. Germany, which has had its military disbanded, is of many religions; France, which was taken over by the German military and has never really recovered, still has many religions (with Islam becoming more prominent).
because our military was not here, so you would be executed for trying to stand up for yourself, oh, and kiss that right to a fair trial goodbye.
Why are you trying to pretend we'd be in a dictatorship if it weren't for our military? We're born from Great Britian. They're a constitutional monarchy, not a dictatorship. Japan, last I checked, was also not a dictatorship... they're more technologically advanced than we are. From personal accounts on this site, I'd say Japan takes pretty good care of its people. As does, oh, I don't know... Norway, Sweeden, Switzerland, France, England, etc. Need I remind you that we did not win WWII by ourselves... without the help of Russia (a dictatorship) and other armies we would not have stood a chance.
you only see what you see from the media who wants all of you to think our military are a bunch of baby killing assholes who drink to much and only know how to say oohrah.
I don't know what media you watch, but our media also goes on about the National Guard relief efforts, among other things.
take in the fact that these young men sign up for it, they volunteer to protect us and sacrifice their time, and lives so that you can go and abuse what they are doing.
And often times, they're misled about what exactly they're signing up for. Recruiters are notorious for waving the flashy $20,000 signing bonus, plus the GI bill and health benefits, while neglecting to mention exactly what the military entails.
The military does do a lot of good here. But they are not, by ANY means, without fault. We still have sadistic men running things, and war changes people drastically. I've read account after account of people becoming sickening in their actions after serving in actual battle. I also know what sort of discrimination comes through, from the sheer fact that I'm great friends with my mother, who experiences it all first-hand. There are huge mental problems that come out of being in the military, especially after retirement.
In summary, if you want to praise the troops, fine. But don't get all pissed off when we point out the problems that the military does have. They, just like everything else, could stand to use a little improvement.
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My dad served as an enlisted member in the Air Force for 20 years, my grandpa was a Navy surgeon.
That said, thank you for posting all that so nicely. My brain couldn't get past making my eyes roll a little bit.
I really miss my health benefits. And being able to shop at the BX/Commissary.
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All the sentiment in the world about 'patriotism' and 'support the troops' aside, I don't believe soldiers are treated like heroes when they return to this country.
Why do you think soldiers do not receive payments equivalent to their services?
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I don't know. Maybe congress just doesn't want to make the budget big enough to support that many. I know when there was a delay in the budget approval this year, a lot of civilians were threatened with losing their jobs.
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Okay, this is the 21st century, WAKE UP! quit saying our MEN serving, our MEN over there! there are many woman that serve in the military now too! obviously you live a sheltered life and would never dream of joining yourself, but will let your husband join! To all of the other woman service members and veterans out there: Thank you for your service. (in this womans' mans army, obviously)
obviously you live a sheltered life and would never dream of joining yourself, but will let your husband join!
I guess it's "obvious" if that's the message you want to take away. That's not the message I got from her blog. You don't know why she isn't in the military. Maybe she does want to join, but can't, and has settled for supporting her husband.
The point is, you don't know anything about her. So please don't make assumptions. The assumption you made is one I would be insulted by, if it were directed at me.
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