First let me start by saying if you get offended easily by people talking about what they believe than don't read this. If you take offense when someone talks bad about the U.S. don't read this. If you can't read this and say ok i respect your perspective on this issue, then i say don't read this.
Christian Nation? People say that the U.S. is a Christian Nation. I say yeah right. The U.S. has not, is not, and will never become a christian nation. Why i say that? History has told me. And what really gets me the most is that the U.S. has the audacity to try and conform other countries to be like us. History has told me that the individuals in this country would do anything to get what they want. From stealing land for personal gain, from the corruption that has always been in the government, from the genocides, all the way to the inequality of races. A Christian Nation is not one that should be looking down on other countries. As if we are better than them. Sweep around your own front door before you try to sweep around someone elses. People in other nations are more united than we will ever be. In the U.S. its every man for himself. It shouldn't be like that. Thats not Christian like. It should be if one struggles we all struggle. But it all comes down to the monetary gain and money is the root of all evil. So what does that say? To me it says if we are all about monetary gain than we are crooked and evil. And that is the complete opposite of a Christian-like Nation. We have no excuses for the murders, rapes, corruption, and racism in the U.S. Unlike third world countries we have the resources to better ourselves but we rarely see that happen. I applaud all the teachers, doctors, servers, waittresses, parents, etc. who are out in the world making a difference. No matter how little it seems at the moment don't give up and continue what you're doing because it gives the people you help hope for tomorrow. The countries that can better themselves do by paying for their citizens to go to college. Our children barely make it out of high school. We are no better than no other country.
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People in glass houses should not throw stones at any one else.
so I agree with the idea of the US should not butt in other people's business unless they are DIRECTLY involved. I mean directly//directly. How is it our job to Preach to others?
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Unfortunately it may well become a Christian nation. The Christian Fundamentalist movement is very powerful. The Supreme Court is mostly Conservative in some way and, if the Democrats somehow manage not to win in 08, it will likely become even more conservative. That possibility does exist, even if it isn't very likely at the moment or anywhere in the near future. If it does, I say there are two options. 1) NYC (at least) secedes from the Union, or I go to Canada. Yes, I'll be driven to that.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
is it because of its promixity to the US or its general lack of interest in other people's business?
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Sad, I know, to be driven to Canada. Well, it is close, so it's a logical first stop. I might move on, maybe not. They do basically stay out of people's business.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
they did give us nelly furtado and steve nash (who are nice individuals in my book) and i hear they've got tons of pakistani restaurants (good spicy pakistani food is hard to come by even in NYC)
and yes i love that they are RARELY ever in any news.... all i hear recently is how well the canadian dollar is doing
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
A fundamentalist is: a religious or political movement based on a literal interpretation of and strict adherence to doctrine, especially as a return to former principles
Encarta ® World English Dictionary ©.
Which is more fundamentalist: Christians who merely attempt to practice what they preach, not force all others to do so, or liberal who claim to be tolerant bu instead discriminate against, insult, and accuse certain people who disagree with them?
The liberal doctrine? Everyone must behave "corecctly", be tolerant, and not express any religious beliefs, as those might cause people to take offense.
I'm not a liberal, exactly. I'm basically centrist. If there is one group I identify with most, it is the libertarians.
Note, I did not say that all Christians are fundamentalists. However, there are many Christians who do want to force their beliefs on other people. they have considerable influence.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Okay, libertarians are the furthest thing from centrist. They are so extreme that they are not even on the map. In fact, many of them are so-called Christians that do want to impose their beliefs on others. Example: a common libertarian goal is to abolish the military and let God protect us.
There are also many liberals (I did say that you are one) who whish to force their beliefs on other people, and have considerably more influence. Examples: socialized medicine and gay marriage.
You really aren't paying attention. I said that the closest orientation I had was toward libertarianism. The reasons are a little complicated. This isn't the blog for that, though.
I've never heard of ablolishing the army and letting god protect us. THAT is very extreme and I would in no way agree with that. And I really don't think that that's really a common libertarian belief.
OK, I don't agree with socialized welfare. I just don't think it will work, but how is legalizing gay marriage going to force anyone's beliefs on you. You don't have to get married to someone of the same sex. You don't have to go to a same-sex wedding and you don't have to approve of it. Keep in mind, that I do not think that churches should have to marry homosexuals, just the state. How does that have any effect on you?
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
To get back to the matter at hand, it is impossible to be a true centrist. If you lean towards supporting anyone, including libertarians, you are not a centrist.
Secondly, I read about a couple of libertarian candidates for president last election that advocated abolishing the military last year. In my opinion, that makes it fairly common.
Thirdly, gay marriage would result in a net result of loss of freedom. Say a law legalizing gay marriage is passed, along with protections that keep people from protesting it or speaking out against it. Now, millions of people who consider it part of their faith to speak about the sinfulness of gay marriage, and homosexuallity in general, would not be able to do so.
My last statement on my own political orientation- I said I am basically centrist. I have a very slight bend toward libertarianism. Also, a couple of candidates hardly makes it common opinion.
Second of all, legalizing gay marriage does not limit freedoms. Outlawing prtests against it does. I do not want to outlaw protests. You can still be a homophobic gay hater, you just can't stop them from being married by the state. So go on hating and go on preaching, but don't limit other people's rights.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
i agree with everything you said about the gay marriage issue and the protesting deal
I don't know what I am, I guess I can say I support anything that is for society's benefit or something (yes, i dedide which side is the beneficial one)---i have labeled myself as a Democrat but there are certain policies of Democrats I don't agree with
ah, 2008- all i know is that everyone around me is gonna be pushed into a voting booth because i am surrounded by lazy and apathetic individuals who will get to see a very ugly side of me that day :)
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
The most popular liberal bills that would legalize gay marriage would also outlaw protest against it. There is a connection.
Second, don't make assumptions. I never said that I hate gays. I do hate homosexuality, but I do not hate homosexuals.
Thirdly, gay marriage is not a right. Being a homosexual is a lifestyle choice, you are not born gay. Plenty of people have stopped being gay, for one reason or another. Therefore, gay marriage, or homosexualtiy in general, is not a right.
You are really taking enormous steps to not look at the truth. Let us assume (yes, I know, it's an assumption) that a law is passed that allows homosexuals to marry without stopping you from shieking your belief in the horrible sin of homosexuality at the top of your lungs. How does that limit your rights?
Second, bull. Utter, complete bull. Hating the sin is, in effect, the exact same thing as hating the sinner in the case of homosexuality. Do you want to know why? Because it isn't a choice!! You've pissed me off to much to explain what an idiodic assumption that is, so I'll leave that to someone else or me at a later time. And, no, people do not stop being homosexuals. They stop engaging in homosexual behavior. There is a difference.
It is a choice to engage in any sort of sex. Therefore, should it not be the rights of heterosexuals to get married?
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Are commands that I have no reference to in my Bible. Please provide the quotes to which you refer.
> They are so extreme that they are not
> even on the map. In fact, many of them
> are so-called Christians that do want to
> impose their beliefs on others. Example:
> a common libertarian goal is to abolish
> the military and let God protect us.
The only issue that Libertarians off the map is our sometimes rabid appreciation of the principle of Personal Liberty. And, where did you hear that Liberarians want to abolish the military in favor of "God's" protection? The Libertarian philosophy opposes unecessary foreign entanglements, but it does not in any way propose to aboloish the military, though it does seek to limit the government's exercise of police power upon the citizenry. I would suggest that you educate yourself about the Libertarian Philosophy, and the Libertarian Party.
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"Vi Veri Vniversum Vivus Vici." ~ V.
Why is it when someone doesn't agree with someone the "L" word is thrown around? This is getting a little ridiculous.
but you do mean liberal??
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean that I use the word liberal, though I am at a loss as to why you don't just spell it out. In this case, I used it because the views expressed corresponded with predominant liberal views.
yes. it's almost taboo now. I've seen that accusation said about a million times since I've been on this website.
No country is perfect. If you expect any one to be, you will be dissapointed. I'll admit, the U.S. is not perfect. However, there are plenty of countries that are worse, where people are more divided (as in multiple civil wars in decades), and where crime, murder and rape are more rampant (Germany, for one). Those countries were everyone hangs together are more likely than not in trouble, politically, socially, and financially.
Your idolization of other countries and demonization of the United States are ill-founded. Check your facts.
but i guess it is us presuming and assuming that other nations are better than what America is becoming.
I actually want to compare germany with US since I have two cousins who were born and have lived all their lives in germany. I should ask them some questions and maybe write something..
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
There are plenty of worse countries, however, there are plenty of better ones, less, I readily admit, than there are worse ones, but we are hardly number one.
Actually, I'm a bit nervous of our financial position, we seem to be in a fairly precarious situation. The value of our currency has been dropping.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
one of the biggest benefits of going to pakistan used to be the exchange rate for the dollar to rupees, man that was sweet how much money one would get just if they had 20 bucks only...sheesh Dollar needs to get a grip on itself, I need the high exchange rate or there i'd have to spend more on stuff in pakistan :)
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
I'm a freshman at a college and my friend was planning on funding a construction company he wanted to start after graduation...with the new immigration bill, that's going to pot. A lot of business owners are scared right now...our economy is on the down...
I don' t idolize any country nor do i look down upon any country. You say Germany has had numerous murders and rapes but guess what ours have increased too. New York used to leave in deaths but now New Orleans do. A small place like that compared to New York should never have came to #1. I know we are not the best or worst country but we are not that far from the latter. Those countries you say that are worst do so you see them poking their noses in any other countries business? I don't. What i'm saying is we shouldn't go looking for trouble because eventually we'll find it and it'll be on OUR door step.
M.