If You're Not American GET OUT!!!

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Illegal Immigrants need to get out. I have a very big problem with people in America who don't want to be ''American's." Especially when all they do is take our money and send it back to Mexico or what have you. It's completely unfair to those immigrants which legally take the time to apply and come here. Those who 'jump' the border contribute to the majority of crimes in the southwestern part of the United States. What irritates me even more are those crazy pregnant woman who have 'anchor babies,' they get the benefits of having their child be American, yet the child is raised to have more pride in the 'home' country than the one which gave them life.

Something else which really irritates me is the fact that illegals REFUSE to speak English. Yes, I understand we can't have a national language, but let's be for real. Why come to a country if you don't want to be a part of that country? I mean it's completely obvious that they have no respect for our country or the first thing that they did would not be breaking the law. They are criminals when they get here, and then they get angry because the rest of us don't understand a single word they're saying. SPEAK ENGLISH When I go to France I speak French, and when i'm in Spain I speak Spanish . . . Some would say that a person with my views is discriminating against outsiders or being somewhat xenophobic . . .

Let's get real. I understand America is a melting pot, and that supposedly 'everyone' is an immigrant. (Not true in my case, but that's besides the point.) Our cultural diversity is something which makes America inherently unique. It's a part of our being and without it something would always be missing. Again, I have no problem with the legal passing of immigrants. But I think it's time something was done with those who have no regard for our country.

As for those who are already here, either get out or enlist . . . earn your right to stay since you didn't want to go about it the LEGAL way the first time.

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Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Well, not all illegal immigrants are border jumpers; and not all illegal immigrants are averse to becoming citizens the legal way.

And the reason you speak French when you go to France, or speak Spanish when you go to Spain - is France and Spain each *have* a national language (they are called French and Spanish respectively).

While I understand the grievances against illegal immigrants who do not want to be a part of this country - that really is only referring to a few of them, not the majority. And contrary to popular belief - most, if not all, of them do pay taxes - despite not being under the direct protection of our constitution (either at the state level or at the federal level).

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Damn right.

If you took 'em out and shot 'em then you wouldn't have a problem.

dona1406's picture

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
DON'T YOU KNOW DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG????
SHOOT THEM!! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!!!

chevy boy1987's picture

Why not shoot them? You shoot one or two of them and I bet most of them would think twice before breaking the law when coming to America. What is wrong with vigilante justice?
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aVeD's picture

There should be punishments for breaking the law.
If a group of people come into this country illegally, they have already disregarded our law system. Whether or not their intentions are good, they have broken the law.

I do believe we need to make some changes to make legal immigration more accesible, but thats no reason to break our laws and expect us to change for you.

-aved

Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

I kind of agree with you. But the way to go about it is to make applying for legal status more appealing and affordable. Instead of trying to put down illegal immigrants, we should be working on a way to promote legally entering the country.

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Yeah, I don't agree with illegal immigration. But before we jump all over them for being illegal, we should make it a bit easier to become a citizen.

mvenus929's picture
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You do realize that not all LEGAL immigrants want to become American, right? I know several people who are residents of the US, but don't want to become citizens.

And generally if you're forced (forced doesn't necessarily mean that someone held a gun to your head, but you needed to go for various reasons) into a country where you don't know the language, it's generally rather difficult to pick up on it. It's not that you'd refuse to speak the language, just that you have a hard time learning, ESPECIALLY if you're an adult. Adults have a much slower learning curve than children.

We allow any Cuban that makes it to US waters to stay, but we denied a ship full of European immigrants asylum during the second world war. Why should Cubans be any different from any other immigrant?

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chevy boy1987's picture

Honestly if they can make it to the US from Cuba I think they kind of deserve to be here. Its not hard to walk across a waste deep river from Mexico.

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mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

And what about the European immigrants that we denied entrance? They had to cross a much bigger pond than Cuban immigrants, and they made it only to be turned away and sent to their deaths.

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chevy boy1987's picture

We were in the middle of a World War...we had bigger fish to fry at the time...

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mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

This was in 1939, 2 years before we entered WWII. Perhaps you've heard of the ship I'm referring to. Ever hear of the St. Louis? I was incorrect, though. Only half of the nearly 1000 passengers died. My bad. http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/slfat.html

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chevy boy1987's picture

I'm still really trying to find a connection between this and the illegal immigration issue. It just seems like an irrelevant tangent in which you are trying to twist it into supporting your argument.

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mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

The issue is about illegal immigration. Cubans don't fall under that because we have a law that says any Cuban that makes it to US waters (not even land) gets to stay in the US. My question is why does this law exist... what makes Cubans different from other immigrants. You said that if Cubans make it this far, then they should be allowed to stay. Mexicans certainly aren't the only illegal aliens, and there are certainly illegals that come from farther than Cuba. (http://www.cis.org/topics/illegalimmigration.html alludes to immigrants from countries of concern in the war on terror, I'm pretty sure that doesn't include Mexico). Yes, it was a tangent, that's why it was at the bottom of my comment.

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chevy boy1987's picture

See but Mexicans make up the majority of the illegal immigration problem so of course they are going to get the majority of the heat for it.

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npsm18's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

"My question is why does this law exist... what makes Cubans different from other immigrants."

Cuba is less than 100 miles from Florida, by the way. Also Cubans can stay because of "Law number 89, known as the Cuban Adjustment act, was adopted by the US congress on the 2nd of November of 1966, under the Lyndon Johnson administration. It's main provisions was to change the legal status of the Cuban immigrants; to treat them as political refugees and to grant them political asylum; and as such provide them immediately with privileges that no other group enjoys, such as, automatic permanent residence status."http://www.cubasocialista.com/adjust1.htm

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As far as I understand it (highlighted by the Elian fiasco), Cuban immigrants do have to make it to within a certain distance of US shore in order to be considered for asylum. And this is different from citizenship anyway, because according to US asylum law, only specified numbers of Cuban immigrants per year who make it to the US are considered political refugees (refugee ceiling).

I had an idea.... bring our home boys back from the war and let the illegals earn their citizenship.

chevy boy1987's picture

I like that idea along with all the guys on death row. Tell them that if they make it they can stay over there and have freedom. They just can't come back to America.

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I realize that not ALL illegal aliens come from Mexico but being from South East Texas and being that my father lives in Southern California I am a little bias. There are tons and tons of Mexicans living here, claiming the max on their tax return so that the smallest amount is taken out and then they never file, so they never pay. Worse yet are the ones that Tax paying Americans are paying under the table so they never pay anything and we are helping them.

There is a way for them to become citizens. Stop using the system, generation after generation; learn the language of America (that’s English) and most of all respect our flag and culture while in our country.

If I come to Mexico I will do the same.

http://www.progressiveu.org/094830-illegal-aliens-why-do-they-get-what-i-cant-have

dona1406's picture

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY!!!

mrsdreamer's picture

It's easy to say that it's not right for them to be here, but also, what about them? they probably had a rough time back in wherever they were from. but i do somewhat agree with you. Us americans are putting out our tax dollars to have lets say spanish speaking classes for those who came here from hispanic countries.. but they won't learn to speak english?

mrsdreamer's picture

and i don't think shooting them will make the problem go away.
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npsm18's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

"...than the one which gave them life"

I didn't know countries could give birth?

"I understand America is a melting pot, and that supposedly 'everyone' is an immigrant. (Not true in my case, but that's besides the point.)"

Technically, niether is anyone else born here, but you have an immigrant background...the only way you dont is if both of your parents were Native Americans.

'...if you don't like your job, you don't strike—you just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.'

I don't know if any of you have noticed but the reoccuring theme is that the illegals believe we stole their land. Meaning California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, parts of Colorado and maybe a couple of others. This all happened in the Mexican-American war in 1848 after the Mexicans had crossed the border and killed Americans on our soil. We won the war and paid them $15,000,000 for the land, and forgave them over $3,000,000 in American claims against Mexico. There is much more information on the internet: the Treaty with Mexico and information re their original Constitution. Their original Constitution was much like ours. But all that changed. This culture has been a victim. But people remain victims only as long as they choose to do so.

I am not for illegal immigration. I live in So. California. Having been to Mexico (although the last time was a number of the years ago) I fail to see how the current setup is going to have any effect at all. I have had illegals tell me all they have to do is wait at the 7-11 until the border closes then they just drive across. The United States checkpoint is a number of miles away from the actual border. I am tired of hearing that Americans are racist. You can be sitting at a stop light and see the hatred in their eyes. I am tired of paying taxes that support them, I am tired of seeing their children defecate in the sandboxes on a playground or a man relieving himself at the side of the freeway when acess to a bathroom is no more than a 1/4 mile away. I am tired of hearing about emergency rooms that are having to close because they have no money. They have no money because the illegals are using them as clincs. They cannot refuse to help anyone that has no money so we are all paying for it and our healthcare (if we can afford it, keeps rising). I'm tired of the billions of dollars being sent to Mexico. I just received an email where it appears that some states are considering giving illegals drivers licenses.

I urge you all to investigate the facts and that means going into the history of this country.
Generations were subject to all kinds of hardships. Yet the illegals seem to believe they are entitled. The bottom line is this: If there were no handouts or benefits for them to receive-there would be no reason to come.

Milia's picture

well technically Native Americans are immigrants too.. they came from Asia on the land bridge.

chevy boy1987's picture

Thats all in technicalities. Its based on first come first serve. That is like saying that your dont own the land you live on because someone else has owned it before.
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I can understand that most of you feel like illegal immigration is wrong for whatever reasons, but what I do not understand is how can people say things such as "Shoot them down" or "crazy anchor woman" or "that illegals REFUSE to speak English." How much hatred can people have for people they do not even know. How can you assume that illegals refuse to speak english? I know many illegals who can speak english or want to speak english. How can you assume that every woman who is pregnant that comes to the United States wants to take advantage of the system? Im sure their are people who want to have a good environment for their child to grow up in. Heck, only 1 person who thinks like that is needed to make your remark false and it would be kinda odd if you were to say not one person out of the billion in the world just want to have a safe place for their child to grow up in, instead of just taking advantage of the system. Instead of jumping to conclusions, use the gift inside your head called your mind.

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