HAPPY 4/20....soon!

Well 4/20 is coming up this week and that means it is time to chill and relax a bit after a whole week of studying and midterms. Marijuana runs around loose in college. It is all over the place. I am actually surprised that some people actually do not do it in college. You would think now that kids are on their own away from parents and such that everyone would light a blunt up every day but the truth to that fact is there some people who do not smoke. It is funny how people believe that smoking marijuana of all things will shorten one's life spand greatly when there are millions of studies that marijuana should not even be considered "unhealthy." Some people who smoke cigarettes or hookah will not touch marijuana even though TOBACCO kills more people than anything in the world. Another big thing in college is alcohol compared to marijuana. People often see alcohol may be better than marijuana supposely because alcohol is legal. Studies of alcohol shows that more people die from alcohol than from marijuana. There has not been a case of marijuana overdose but there has been alcohol overdose or alcohol poisoning. There are no hang overs from marijuana and people are able to solve math problems ACCURATELY when high rather than drunk. Even with all these studies I do not see why some people would reject marijuana over any other drug if they are into partying. Anyways, just becareful on 4/20 people. Don't get peer pressured if you do not want to do anything outside your preference. Just say no or whatever you are comfortable with. HAPPY 4/20!

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Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

I'm not sure why you seem to be complaining about this?

I have never touched marijuana, and never plan to. It's not necessarily because I think it's unhealthy, but regardless of health effects, it's still illegal. I don't believe it's right to break a law simply because you don't agree with the law. That's what lobbying is for :)

And, the majority of people I know that don't smoke marijuana have said the same thing to me. Even those that have told me they tried it or experimented with it but discontinued use. I know very few people in comparison that believe that marijuana has illeffects on people's health; it's just a matter of being conscientious of the law.

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TUFFGONG's picture
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To be fair, most people choose which laws they deem acceptable to break. My parents for instnace have never and would never touch any illegal drug. But they both break the speed limits in restricted zones regularly. Breaking the speed limit is something most people do at some point. It is a law that they only really apply when they think there might be cops around. Yet speeding in a ton or so of metal and gasoline poses far greater risk to the general public than somebody getting stoned in their own backyard.

With that in mind, I think it's far easier to justify the stoners choice of law to break.

That said. Everyday is 4/20 for me. Stickin it to The Man...

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Fanaile Essence's picture
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Okay, I understand that (although I don't speed). I do know people (my father) that I will refuse to ride in a car with because they speed and scare the crap out of me doing other illegal things (tailgating, cutting people off, not using blinkers...I swear every time I would get in the car with my father, I'd have an anxiety attack). But that doesn't make breaking the law right. And when stopped, they face the consequences. Going to court and saying "well, I was speeding because frankly I think that they made a mistake when posting the speed limit and that shouldn't be the speed limit" will not help them get out of their ticket.

Working to change a law you don't agree with I can understand, but do it the right way. That's what the system is there for, use it.

But, anyway, my point originally was, why complain about others not breaking the law? The author of the blog seemed to be complaining that there were people unwilling to smoke marijuana, despite the fact that they would drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. I can understand being confused by this, but why complain that they don't want to break the law?

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TUFFGONG's picture
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I have absolutely zero tolerance for drug laws. So I too would also have to complain that people who ingest drugs like alchohol and nicotine don't support the legalisation of Cannabis.

It's not about whether or not they agree with smoking Cannabis, it's about the personal freedom to put into their bodies what they see fit.

It is selfish of people who enjoy alchohol and cigarettes to sit there smuggly with their drugs of choice safely protected from prohibition while watching other members of their community being treated as criminals for enjoying something which actually does far less harm.

It's a freedom issue. It's as if everybody has forgotten about Alchohol prohibition. It's as if they've forgotten that it was repealed because it was unjust, unenforceable, and essentially against the will of the majority. Despite the harmful effects of alchohol, the American people stood up as a majority and said, 'we don't care if it's hamful when abused, we like it and it's our business what we put in our own bodies, so we're gonna do it anyway'.

Unfortunately Cannabis users are still a minority and don't have the support of those drug users who have managed to keep their drug legal. It is selfish for people who drink alchohol not to support the cause.
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Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

I understand where you're coming from, but I think you misunderstood me a little. I wasn't talking about people not supporting the legalization of marijuana; I meant complaining that people are choosing not to break the law by smoking marijuana.

Right now, I know very few people that smoke marijuana. However, I also know that there are several people who have no problem with others smoking, and do support the legalization of it, and would probably smoke it if the laws were changed. But until then they won't smoke.

I'm confused as to why complain about people not breaking the law. I totally understand getting angry and complaining about people not wanting to work to change the law.

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TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Oh. Yeah I get you. Sorry I misunderstood. Nobody should be expected to smoke weed if they don't want to, equally those who do want to should be able to without instantly becoming criminals. My axe to grind is with people who drink alchohol but don't support legalisation of marijuana. I just think it's a double standard.
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Jaded Neophyte's picture

Seriously, why? I know it's supposedly the police code for someone smoking weed, but that date is shared with Hitler's birthday and the Columbine massacre. If that's not a buzzkill, I don't know what is.

Getting high and happy on such a day just seems, well, a little morbid.

"CONSERVATIVE, n.
A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others."
- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

kfed's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

I said the same thing about my birthday, which was, uh, yesterday.

Jaded Neophyte's picture

That's awful (but obviously nowhere near as awful as yesterday's shooting).

"CONSERVATIVE, n.
A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others."
- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

kfed's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Yup.

Also coincides with Emancipation Day, and is the day after Tax Day.

Jaded Neophyte's picture

Always look on the bright side of life, I guess. (whistles)

My birthday, June 27th, is the same as Helen Keller's, and is the death day of Joseph (and his brother Hyrum) Smith, founder of Mormonism. It's also nestled comfortably between two milestones of gay history: the June 28th, 1969 Stonewall Riots, and the June 26th, 2003 striking down of sodomy laws in the U.S. And that was just before my 18th birthday! Talk about barely legal.

"CONSERVATIVE, n.
A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others."
- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

If it makes you feel any better, one of my friends' birthday is on September 11th, and they were having a birthday party for her when they got the news of the towers... If that's not a buzzkill, I don't know what is.

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kfed's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Wow.

My mom and her best friend's birthdays are September 9th and 10th, which isn't nearly as bad but still kind of weird.

_Meke's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

That's also my sister's birthday.
Denken. Nicht lesen.

_Meke's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)

Denken. Nicht lesen.

Repsaj Loves You's picture

as for weed: it's your thing, do what you wanna do.

"it's silly, no? when a rocketship explodes and man still wants to fly. some say man ain't happy truly, until man truly dies. o why?"
-Prince

Repsaj Loves You's picture

i take that back. days are just days. they don't matter. i am in no way in-agreement with you anymore, Jaded.

"it's silly, no? when a rocketship explodes and man still wants to fly. some say man ain't happy truly, until man truly dies. o why?"
-Prince

kfed's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

days are just days, but there's a giant market for "on this day in x year..." calendars.

It is pretty depressing, though, to wake up on your birthday to find out that some guy just made history by killing more people in a shooting rampage than all the other people who killed people in a shooting rage previously.

Repsaj Loves You's picture

still never agreeing with Jaded ever again. he makes no valid points from here on out.

"it's silly, no? when a rocketship explodes and man still wants to fly. some say man ain't happy truly, until man truly dies. o why?"
-Prince

kfed's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Meanie.

i dont want to seem like a hypocrite but so i will tell you guys now, i do drink and puff it every now and then but not tobacco, this is just a thought of why is marijuana treated much more bad than other drugs that is all. and mainly since 4/20 is tmr, do stay safe if whatever you choose to do. be your own person and let not others control you.

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