My brother is gay and I want to die!!!!

I agree with you - even if you personally oppose it, homosexuals are people too. If two people are in love (and we ALL know love is blind), who cares if they are the same gender? They should be able to love each other without repercussions, and marry each other. Because if two people are that committed to each other, they deserve to be married. Regardless of gender, race, class, ethnicity, etc. Love is always a beautiful thing.

Karatechop, are you opposed to Gays or not, your title makes it sound as if your ashamed of your brother but your post makes it sound as if you in support of him, which is it?

yea the title is all sarcasm. I dont have anything against any gay people. because they are people and that is my point. I dont think they are that different and they shouldnt be treated like aliens.

oh and i dont have a brother by the way lol

i completely agree. i dont think that it is anyones buisness with whom somebody wants to be with. gays should have the same rights that everyone else in this country does. when 2 people are in love it shouldnt matter if they are gay or straight.

Personally, I think the whole same-sex marriage issue is blown out of proportion by the extreme right wing evangelicals who feel this need to enforce their morals on us. I got nothing against it.

It still confuses me sometimes though, because from the biological perspective, where one has offspring to spread the genes to compete for survival, that shouldn't be possible. I mean, strictly speaking, gay's can't reproduce.

I personally believe that the White House is making a big issue out of this to draw attention away from the real threats to this country: the Iraq War, Social Security, terrorism. I mean, in light of the past couple of years, who the fuck cares about who marries who? All this righteous bullshit is coming from a president who only got re-elected to continue a war that he erroneously started. Weren't we supposed to find some terrorists? Specifically, one guy named Osama Bin Laden?

In war, when someone's pointing a gun at you, you don't stop and ask the guy covering your back if he's gay or not.

You see I am a Christian. But I have always been taught to accept people for who they are. I know that a lot of people would say that God says that it is wrong. He also says to treat others as they wish to be treated. How would other people like it if they were banned from marriage because they like people of the opposite sex. I'm not saying that I agree with their life-style, or disagree, but I will accept people for who they are. Also I think that all people deserve an equal chance.

Yeah sometimes people have warped opinions of "what God would say or What God wants us to say/do".. But come to think of it all these people are doing is judging the gay people and who is supposed to do the judging? ..God. Im glad the person above me accepts other people like the christians i know in my family who are amazing people.

and I believe that Marriage is a Bibical thing, but however, I do not shun, or hate on homosexuals. I have several friends, and a brother whom are homosexuals, and my old manager. I believe that homosexual couples should receive Civil Unions, with all the benifits of a marriage, including plans for the children that may be involved with the same sex marriages.

I hate when Christians bash homosexuality, because it really makes people hate Christians, Does anyone remember when Jesus had lunch with the prostitute, I mean outreaching to them is the best we can do, not saying, "YOU SLEEP WITH THE SAME SEX?! YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!!!" It makes us look bad, God will judge them and all we can do is love them.

I have absolutely nothing against gay people or what they stand for (i actually have a couple very good gay friends), but i wouldnt like to be out with one of my future children at the age of 3 and have two men or two women kissing; How would i explain to my 3 year old daughter/son two people of the opposite sex kissing? I know its their life and they do what they please, but in a way it just seems wrong. Im not down with the bashing of gay marrige but think about it this way men have penis and women have vaginas, its like a puzzle it fits.

best wishes for you and your brother!

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein

Gay marriage was just made legal in Iowa. My response = about time! They're people, too, they should have the same rights. And as for gay people kissing in public, I really don't even like to see straight people kissing in public. It's a private thing, keep it that way.

To the guy saying soldiers don't care if there are homos in their unit. You've obviously never been to combat. I've done two combat tours in Iraq now with the 1st Infantry Division, and can speak for myself and every other real combat soldier when I say that GAYS DO NOT BELONG IN THE MILITARY. And unless you've served in the military yourself, and have actually served in combat, then you have no right and no personal experience to back up a statement like that. I don't pretend to be an engineer. I don't pretend to be a doctor. I'm a combat soldier, and unless you are too, then you should probably stop pretending that you know what the hell it is you're talking about. I get so tired of hearing **** civilians telling us how to do our job. When you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Your closest experience to combat's probably watching Saving Private Ryan or playing Call of Duty on Xbox. The bond that combat soldiers form with each other is something you can never, and will never understand. You get closer to the other guys in your platoon than you are with your own family. Killing people together and getting shot at just has a way of doing that. I would jump in front of freight train for any one of the guys I went to war with. I'm a patient at an army hospital now for injuries I sustained in theater. Several of my friends did make that sacrifice, that's the reason i'm still here today. When you're deployed you do everything together. You have to have a battle buddy everywhere you go, even on the FOB (forward operating base). Chow hall, phone center, guard duty, the gym. Hell, we even use community showers. When your in the field training, sometimes you find yourself sleeping outside in January, in the snow. And you'll get right up next to the other guys, just to conserve body heat. I would never, ever feel comfortable doin' that with a ****. EVER. Allowing openly homosexual individuals into combat units in the army would cause a total break down in morale and unit cohesion. It would destroy that bond we have, that closeness that lets us do everything together, talk about anything. Even die for each other. And there's no way you would ever understand how close we really are to each other, or how badly allowing a **** in would screw things up. And any real combat soldier will tell you the exact same thing. If they try to tell you otherwise they're probably full of shit. and have never been in a firefight in their entire life. We don't have females in combat arms for partly the same reason. If they were you'd start seeing straight male soldiers, real soldiers, hitting on them, tryin' yo get layed and not doing their jobs. Straight guys are going to hit on women. You can't stop that, it's human nature. So if you had a bunch of ***** in your unit they'd eventually try to hit on the other guys in their unit. And they'd get the shit beat out of them for it. There is no way i'd ever use the community showers again, or get right up next to another soldier in the field for body warmth if he was a ****. Not in my fuckin army. Not to mention the fact that **** are one of the largest carriers of the HIV virus in the world. And in combat you've got blood flyin' all over the damn place. I'm not tryin to get infected while administering buddy aid. And all this bullshit about homosexuality being genetic is horse shit too. Genetic traits are passed down from generation to generation. **** don't have kids, so if it was genetic, that trait would have died out thousands of years ago with the first generation that was carrying it. Being gay is a conscious decision made by the individual. No small wonder children raised by gays turn gay themselves 10 times more often than kids raised by straight parents. They shouldn't be allowed to raise children. Kids need a male and female influence in their lives. It's been working for thousands of years. no reason to change it now. And to those people that say "well I was raised by gays and I turned out fine". Children have only recently been allowed to be raised by openly homosexual parents. Theres no possible way they could have enough research and data on the subject to make an accurate statement on the lasting effects on the children involved. And if you're the kid that was raised by ****, of course you think you're fine! Psychos like Charlie Manson and Adolf Hitler thought they were fine too. Being gay is a choice, *****, and they don't belong anywhere in the armed force. Period. Homosexuality is an abomination. It's a sin. And its ***** Have a nice fucking day

****edited by sawaboof for multiple TOS violations 10.20.2008

Homosexual's don't deserve the same right's because they refuse to act like normal members of society. They need to stop playing the victim card. Until they are willing to abide by society's rules ( I mean really....how many "straight" parades do you see with people showing off their fetishes and running around naked?) , they don't deserve societal equality.

If you can treat each other with respect and kindness, then yes, I agree, even gay people deserve the same rights as everyone else but it seems that because they have been repressed, it gives them the right to go to the extreme with their behavior and attitude.

Seriously, do we need to give equal rights to the 6 gay's in America that genuinely care about each other as opposed to the shallow superficial ones that only want the rights because it's trendy or some other such nonsense?

Even life, libery, and the pursuit of happiness has it's boundaries. Just because you are gay doesn't mean you are any better of a person.

IMO, until the minority EXCEEDS the majority in moral, ethical, and general kindness and fairness, they don't deserve squat. Minorities need to set examples on how others should behave. Work for what you want instead of crying for it. Prove you deserve it. Raise the bar. Set the standard. Don't lower it.