Healthcare for everyone

niteowlgirl72's picture
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I find it very frustrating when people say everyone deserves healthcare and all the other free programs this country offers. We have to pay for that. Through our taxes.

.What ever happened to "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" JFK

The Boston Tea party was a revolt against a 3 or 4% tax unfairly placed on their tea. They were taxed without representation. We are taxed so heavily for things we have no say in! I say REVOLT!!! I am looking to dress like an indian and start dumping tea in the bay... Anyone want to join
If you have a medical emergency you cannot be turned away for care. There are urgent care clinics all over the place.
What is going to happen if we socialize medicine? We will discover that the working man/woman will pay through taxes for it. What happens to the guy who doesn't work? The guy or gal who is working will pay for it. If you work and don't pay the tax where is going to come from? They wil garnish your wages cuz that is fair. Is it ? Really? Socialization is a way to make everone at an equal level of misery. Except the government. You won't see them going to a doctor that you and I would go to.
My best friend doesn't have any medical insurance. She has had situations where she needed a doctor. She went to a clinic and got what she needed.
We already have free medical for those who cannot afford it. What is the big deal about it anyway??

Socialism is the next step toward communism.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

ER care is not free. The people going in may not have to pay for it, but tax-payers do in the long run. Either that, or people with insurance do, or people who can afford it without insurance do, depending on how you look at it. Or, you know, the hospital goes bankrupt and closes. In which case, you lose care in an area.

Oh, and it costs less to do preventative care than it does to do ER care. Just saying.

~C
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niteowlgirl72's picture

was kind of my point. We have to pay for it. It is free to those who cannot afford it. So why socialize it? It is already in place of sorts. I hate paying for it.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Because you pay less if it's preventative, rather than ER care. Wouldn't you like to pay less for it?

~C
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niteowlgirl72's picture

We socialize medicine so it will be cheaper??? I say b.s. How is it going in Canada? They pay a certain amount and it takes months to simple procedures done. How is it a Right to have health care.. AGAIN, "Ask not what your country can do for you,but what you can do for your country" Give government too much control and they will turn into a tyrant.. I am sorry, I disagree.. It is a destruction to this country to socialize medicine.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

There are many different forms to socialist medicine. And you know, there are cases where WAITING is a good thing, instead of jumping in, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on stuff, only to find out that you didn't have the condition they diagnosed you for and thus didn't need all those tests?

How would you propose changing our system. Because it's rather clear that it needs to be changed.

~C
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CompuChristian's picture

Whenever the government gives it must also take. Taxes are ultimately passed down to the poor by the rich in the form of higher prices for the goods and services they buy. The poor are hurt by free medicine, its just hard to see.

My Grandfather was a doctor many years ago. One of his biggest joys in life was doing "indigent care" for those who could not pay. When the government forced him to accept Medicare it took all the joy away from his work and he soon quit medicine.

Less supply of doctors = higher prices.
Higher prices hurt the poor.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Our problem isn't fewer doctors... we have 125 allopathic schools with most classes being about 150 students. That's a huge number of medical students graduating every year. Our problem is that we don't have enough primary care docs, because everyone wants to make money and goes into specialties.

~C
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niteowlgirl72's picture

I agree with you on that. Another thing that hurts everyone is the HMO"S and PPO"S. Plus, all the lawsuits. Those things have driven the prices as high as they are now. If doctor's were allowed to function as they use to in the old days,

Each person paid a small fee to see a doctor, everyone could go. Because of Insurances and malpractice insurance that a doctor has to have they have to charge a fortune to see a few patients. People have gotten sue happy! It is disgusting.

Granted there are cases where a doctor made a big mistake or was careless but alot of situations were the person suing wanted millions just to get rich. I agree the whole healthcare thing needs to be reformed but socializing it itsn't the answer. In my opinion. Kaiser Permanente is a great company that really pushes for preventative care.

If everyone realized that they don't need to run to the doctor for a runny nose it would lessen the cost of insurance. I have insurance, I don't run to the doctor for every little thing. I go when it is absolutely necessary. So ~C I agree with you too on the preventative part

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