I was reading a blog just now, where someone was talking about how as a girl, she is treated differently from her brother. While I do not have a brother, I still notice the drastic differences in society between girls and boys. It is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion, that men have more options than women. We as women, can do anything a man can do and it's not fair that we are not presented with the same opportunities as men. In fact, I believe that women can do much more than men. Have you ever watched a man attempt to multi-task? I have, and trust me, it wasn't pretty. It looked as though his head were about spontaneously combust and the fluids inside would splatter everything in its path to the wall.
In the work force, men are being paid more than women - even if a man and a woman are working the same job. Is that fair? No, absolutely not.
I think that society in general has the ideas of the early to mid-1900s stuck in their minds - that women are the weaker sex and we aren't. We are probably stronger than men - why else do we give birth? Men can't handle the pain, that's why. And why do women take care of the kids - making sure they're fed, get to ballet class, boy scouts, soccer, and flute lessons - clean house, do the grocery shopping, and put the kids to bed each night? Because men can't handle the stress or the pressure involved in completing any of those tasks (for one, it involves multi-tasking... they don't want to risk separating their heads from their bodies.)
So tell me, with all that women do today, is it really fair that we are treated as the weaker sex?
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Your argument, albeit correct, once again SEPARATES women from men. I know that there are many physical and psychological differences between men and women. But, if we (women) want to be treated equally, we have to stop being hypocrits.
no, it isnt really fair, but you're only giving one side of the story. men have to deal with tough things too. one such thing being on my mind right now is the possibility of being drafted. there will be an outcry if there is a draft no matter what, but the government would risk a revolt if they attempted to draft both women and men. the genders are different, but it balances out in the end, just one of those things you have to deal with.
I would be very interested in hearing your points on how it equals out.
Nichole Elise*
women are treated differently but it isnt all bad. women are exempt from the draft. if a woman says something that makes a man angry, physical violence is less likely to ensue than if the same statement had been made by a man. people, at least most people will treat women differently in good ways as well as bad. you cannot argue the issue from only the negative aspect
Women are exempt from the draft.. ok, yeah that's great and all, but women are still joining the armed forces just as men are. So in my opinion, it evens out - that's just the government thinking women need to stay in their stereotypical gender role and be in the kitchen while the man is off to war. I'd rather women be drafted for equality than not be drafted and be forced to stay home. What do you mean by the whole physical violence? Most abuse happens where the man is the abuser and the woman is the abusee - so in my opinion, there's yet another bad case for the woman. Women might get out of things because they are a woman, but sometimes, that's not fair and it's unequal - whether or not the woman should look at it as a good thing (such as not being drafted), it's still unequal which is the point I am trying to make. WOMEN ARE NOT BEING TREATED EQUAL TO MEN.
And if we really want to get into it, why - if a woman sleeps with two guys at once she's a slut, a whore, or a ho - but if a man did the same, he'd be "the man"? Double standards of society are a little overrated and they need to be ended..
Nichole Elise*
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Again -- not being treated equal.
Nichole Elise*
Again -- not being treated equal.
Nichole Elise*
no, it isnt really fair, but you're only giving one side of the story. men have to deal with tough things too. one such thing being on my mind right now is the possibility of being drafted. there will be an outcry if there is a draft no matter what, but the government would risk a revolt if they attempted to draft both women and men. the genders are different, but it balances out in the end, just one of those things you have to deal with.
oops... that posted twice... sorry
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS TRUE AND I STAND BY YOU WITH THAT SISTER. OBVIOUSLY, MEN CAN'T BE MULTI-TASKED AS WE WOMEN ARE. WE ARE SOMEWHAT SEPERATED FROM THE MEN IN THE WORK FORCE WHY? BECAUSE THERE MEN AND THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN GETTING RAISED THEN US WOMEN EVEN IF WE ARE WORKING THE SAME JOBS. I WAS READING AN ARTICLE THAT WAS JUST ISSUED OUT IN BOSTON OVER THE INTERNET AND IT STATED, " SUIT SAYS 6 WERE DENIED PAY FOR OVERTIME". YES, THESE SIX WOMEN WERE WORKING NEARLY OVER 50 HOURS A WEEK FOR A COMPANY BUT NEVER RECIEVED OVERTIME. IT HURTS BECAUSE WE LADIES HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO BESIDE WORKING-WATCHING OUR KIDS-MAKING DINNER-HELP OUR KIDS WITH HOMEWORK-ATTEND GAMES AFTER SCHOOL AND ETC. WHY ARE WE SO SEGREGATED BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN? SOME ISSUES NEED TO STOP BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS!
[...]why else do we give birth? Men can't handle the pain, that's why.
Because women are equiped with the proper tools, if the tables were turned women couldn't have babies, it has nothing to do with pain.
And why do women take care of the kids - making sure they're fed, get to ballet class, boy scouts, soccer, and flute lessons - clean house, do the grocery shopping, and put the kids to bed each night? Because men can't handle the stress or the pressure involved in completing any of those tasks (for one, it involves multi-tasking... they don't want to risk separating their heads from their bodies.)
This is a sociological generalization that men don't take of their kids. There are plenty of single fathers out there, don't let what you see on a few talk shows dictate your sociological views. Women are more prone to taking care of their children because they are psycologically attached from birth (the mother carries the child for months). Men who didn't grow up with a father figure are less likely to take care of their children.
Anyway, your post is more about Gender roles in sexism, this isn't anything new. Gender roles help perpetuate patriarchy. Where in the US, women usually face a double burden.
True. Isn't it proved that women have a 9 x stronger pain tolerance then men do? I for one believe it's true when I see the way my boyfriend and I react differently to the same injuries. Maybe he's just a baby, I don't know. But from where I stand, it sounds pretty believable to me.
Sex differences in pain perception have been noted in multiple studies, with women typically displaying lower pain tolerance than men. But, some experts have stated that men are more motivated to express a tolerance for pain because masculine stereotyping encourages it (again, Gender roles), while feminine stereotyping encourages pain expression and lower pain tolerance. It should also be noted that psychological factors can influence your pain tolerance. As you said, your boyfriend is probably a big baby, like me.
Regardless, pain tolerance has very little to do with Sexism, which is the issue at hand.
True. Isn't it proved that women have a 9 x stronger pain tolerance then men do? I for one believe it's true when I see the way my boyfriend and I react differently to the same injuries. Maybe he's just a baby, I don't know. But from where I stand, it sounds pretty believable to me.
Your argument that women are better than men completely overrides your ambition to be treated equally. I absolutely do not agree with you that men cannot multi-task, and that they can't endure the pain of childbirth. I also think your stereotypical housewife representation of women is sickening. Women who think they are labeled as the babysitters, the house-cleaners, and the errand-runners, are just as much of a problem as the people negatively discriminating against women. It's the women who do these things because out of compassion and motivation that I respect.
Yes, women are judged in many instances, but we can't group a whole gender to have certain attributes. It is very easy to find two women who are opposite in personality and capability, and the same for men.
If there are women who can break out of the stereotypical role, then why are they still categorized with the women still in the role? Women should have all the same pros anda cons as men - regardless. No exceptions to any rules.
And I'm sorry.. but I don't believe I ever said women were better than men. What I've been saying is that they should be treated equally.
Nichole Elise*
Hahahaha....
This whole argument is silly. It's obvious that there are differences in men and women. Women are not INFERIOR to men, nor are men INFERIOR to women. Men and women have attributes that compliment eachother beautifully. It's the plan of God. Obviously women are better at multitasking. Obvioiusly men can't see things that are right in front of their faces some times. Not only that, but half of the famous men of the past couldn't have done what they did without the support and nobility of their wives. But men are undeniably stronger both physically and emotionally. Women are strong in other ways. Personally, (even as a guy myself) I think most guys are jerks, and men that abuse their wives in any way should be beaten black and blue... but that's neither here nor there. This comment was so random...
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By the way, my best friend is a girl and I think she's the coolest person on the planet.
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Men have their limitations too. Until I see it be socially acceptable for a guy to wear anything that a girl can, cry without being laughed at, go into ballet without mockery, etc. I'll say that both genders are limited. I'm not saying that girls don't have their limitations, but guys certainly have some as well, they're just more subtle.
When it's socially acceptible for men to wear women's clothing, that's when America is doomed.
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Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for an evening.
Light a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Women have their share of liberties which men are not suffered. A woman conceives. It is her right to terminate the pregnancy. However, should she choose not to, it is a man's responsibility to pay for the child. Even if the woman hides the pregnancy from her partner and waits ten years, she is still allowed to sue the man for retroactive child support. I'm not saying that a man should choose whether a woman terminates her pregnacy, but I am saying that should a woman choose to bear a child, it should not be the man's unwilled obligation to pay for child support.
--Mike