A personal friend of mine, when she was a couple of months from turning 16, lost her virginity in an unusual way. She liked her friend's brother, 'A', and he liked her back. She didn't know he was 22, and she went on a first date with him. When nightfall came, 'A' told her he wanted her to meet his mother. At the age of 15/16 girls are a little naive, so she went with him to his "house". When they arrived and went in, she realized that they were alone. He started kissing her, and she kissed him back. Even though her body said yes some way, her lips were saying no. When she started realizing what was about to happen, she said no as she pushed him away and started walking toward the door. 'A' grabbed her arm and pulled her onto the couch, started pulling down his pants and hers as well. I don't have to finish that story.
About a month later, she saw him with a friend of hers, and she decided she had to tell someone before he did it to her as well. Police report was taken, he was going to be processed, but she couldn't face him in court because of the trauma he gave her. They also gave her the choice of an abortion if she was pregnant. Fortunately she wasn't.
The question here is, what do you think of her situation? Was it rape when she went with him to his house (not knowing it was his house), and then said no? Should she have been given the choice of an abortion? Or...?
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any time a girl says no it's rape. end of story.
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she was unwilling... so it was rape, even tho she went him to his house. I'm extremely against abortion, but when raped, it's ok.
I agree with the other comments. It was rape. Even if she knew it was his house, I mean.. he said that he wanted her to meet his mother, right? So she wouldn't have suspected that they'd be alone or that he was lying about it.
I support abortion. Rape or not.
then you shouldn't be doing it.
And please keep the abortion question separate. It's annoying enough of a debate without complicating it.
Peace and love. And partners separated by a max of three-ish years. Maybe. But 6/7 is definitely pushing it at that age.
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Holy crap who was this girl? (PM me if I know her)...
The minute she says no, regardless of anything prior, if he continues - it was rape. At that point he has taken power away from her. Especially at 15-16 years old - having sexual relations is an extremely important choice, and it's not one that should be made lightly. She tried to make that choice, and he took that choice away from her...
As far as the abortion, we've had that discussion. It's a personal choice, and they were only trying to make sure she knew all of her options. It doesn't sound like they were trying to convince her one way or another (although I'm glad to hear she wasn't impregnated through this).
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Your title confuses me.
Of course it was rape. And as long as abortion is still legal, they have every reason to offer her an abortion. She didn't have to take it if she did become pregnant, that was just one option she had. Nothing wrong with that.
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yes it was DEFINATELY rape. but as to the abortion thing i dont support it but if your raped and pregnant then maybe. idk thats a moral question i cant answer.. in some case though abortion might be vital to health but only in that case would i say its ok even a little... like i said its a question i cant really answer but i am totally against it..
I know this is cheesy but, no means no. End of that one. It was rape. She said no, he said yes and in his mind he was the only one who mattered. That's terrible. =( A lot of guys are sleezeballs. No comment on abortion, I don't support it except in a few cases, 1. tubual pregnancy, 2. physical and mental pain and deformities. That's about it, I understand it was traumatic but, you could still give the baby up for adoption, it is part your kid. But, then again that is a personal moral situaition.
Hm, you said that you could understand abortion in the case of "physical and mental pain" - would you not agree that rape can cause mental pain? Both for the would-be mother and later in life to the child who would potentially either: A) grow up wondering why he or she was given up for adoption and wonder if he or she was just an unwanted mistake, B) be kept by his mother and resented for looking like his father, C) Finding out years later he was the product of a rape (which sometimes leads to questioning own beliefs, morals, history, and the whole "am I evil" thing) or D) finding out that the person that raped your mother still - legally - has parental rights over you.
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kill a child when it's not your right to take away a life.
How exactly does that relate in any way to my comment?
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relate to you comment. you're giving others reasons that will make them feel like they made a right choice by getting an abortion, and i'm giving them one reason not to get it. so... i doesn't relate... duh!
No I wasn't... But thank's for the totally outdate "duh"...
She said that she didn't agree with abortion except in times of physical or mental pain, and that she believed that when raped, you could give the baby up for adoption -
I was listing ways that rape could cause mental pain for both the would-be mother and the future child.
No where in there did I say you should have an abortion or try to convince anyone that it was okay.
Next time, please ask for clarity if you don't understand something before trying to make yourself look better by throwing out a duh.
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my bad... i guess i didn't understand yo point but from jus reading yo comment it made it sound that way!
but 'duh'... it's not outdated.... we still use it in high school jus not as much as in the past.
cheers!
LOL, really?
I haven't heard a good "duh" in about 8 years :)
Eh, there are just not enough opportune moments to put in a good "duh" in life anymore...I guess.
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Very True, good point, it's really a personal moral decision. Everyone is different. I understand what you mean though, nice myspace, by the way =)
:) Thanks!
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Poor kid. Seriously no means no.
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