DEAN WANTS A NOMINEE NOW!

robinsonwc's picture

Howard Dean wants the nomination and he wants it now! Reports suggest that Dean wants either Senator Hillary Clinton or Senator Barack Obama to drop out race as soon as possible. The purpose is to unify the Democratic party. However, it is unlikely that either will drop out the race now. I personally believe that it makes politics fun to give each candidate a chance to make their voice heard. So who is Howard Dean to take that away from them? However, I do understand as a loyal democrat as I am; it is imperative the party does not split and send swing voters over to John McCain.
What do you all think Progressive U?
  If the Democratics do not unite and not let the public media divert the attention from real issues for example the Rev. Jeremiah Wright situation; we will loose again and have another George W. Bush with a different face and name carrying on the war in Iraq for 100 years.  It is shameful to me that children our children have to loose their parents for this war.  But, back to the issue, the Democrats need to unite but give each  other a fair chance to debate and win this election!

 

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28 Apr. 2008 . Dean says either Clinton or Obama must drop out in June. 28 Apr. 2008. 28 Apr. 2008 <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_dean>.

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astarachaos's picture

I am not sure you fully understand this war you speak of. And as far as I am concerned the two democratic candidates leave alot to be desired. Both are immature and have no real perspective on the issues at hand. If one becomes in office it will be a mockery of the US as it stands now, and if the other is put into office then we might as well throw in the towel. Does anybody read up on these people or do you just listen to the endless feces they spew out thier mouths while attempting to belittle each other. The only hope we have at this point is the Rep candidate, at least he knows what war is about. My bet is on him and I will tell you why....Because as a member of the armed forces and a person that was sent on deployment for what society is calling a "senseless war"(Operation Iraqi/Enduring Freedom), he is the only one who can actually say he knows what we have gone through and has been there before. These other two are just trying to win a popularity contest.

Jsaj's picture
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Out of curiosity, if the majority of the armed forces think as you do, then why did the strongest anti-war candidate get the most donations from the military?

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

astarachaos's picture

I have yet to hear about this, do you have a link to this information you are talking about? I am curious as to why the military would donate to anyone running for president since it would be considered a violation of regulations. Or at least to my knowledged it would be. Please send forth this information you have, I would really like to take a look at it. I must admit I find it a bit hard to believe what you are saying is true.

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This is a link I found after I decided to do a search on what you were talking about. http://www.militaryforpaul.com/donations.html. If this is what you are talking about, I guess it would be different if they actually talked about him instead of leaving him out of the picture. Is he even a candidate anymore? I see his picture as one of them, but where is the discussion on his views and how he feels he can "change" america. Honestly, you have to see where I am coming from on this, the next president is my boss. If I am going to chose my boss then I am going to chose who I think is best for the job to tell me what to do. Wouldnt you? I havent heard much on Paul so I cant say much in fact until now I never knew who he was or that he was even running for president. And after looking at the numbers I dont think there is any question who wants to see who in office between Paul and McCain. 1202 Delegates to 14....hmmm makes you wonder.

Jsaj's picture
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Paul got almost no media attention and most of what he did get was negative, which explains why he didn't get a lot of votes. He did, however, get a lot more money than any other candidate from individuals without even having a fund-raising campaign. That included more donations from the military than any other candidate. So, while McCain got the most votes from Republicans, that does not mean that his opinions are in any way representative of the nation as a whole, or even of the armed forces (if we go by fund raising), which he claims wants the nation to let them win. So, no, it is no surprise that Paul did poorly, when the MSM paid no positive attention to him, which you even mentioned. The fact that he isn't talked about doesn't change the facts of his fund raising. And, yes, he is still officially running, but not with the expectation to win.
(And, just to be complete, yes I am talking about Paul)

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

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I dont think that fund raising says it all. I am not sure why the military branches donated so much money. Honestly in my opinion I think they should have used that money to pay for some of the things they complain about not having or getting fixed on time rather then giving it to a presidential candidate. But the root of this is that you think that I am saying that the military is all for the war, but I think you may have jumped to a conclusion that you interpreted from what I said above but yet I never implied. The point I was trying to make is that if "I" have a choice between the three still basically standing. I am not going to vote for the 2 children that are running and even more so I am not going to vote for someone who has never had any kind of experience with or around the military. I am allowed an opinion on who I think is the better candidate and to me I dont think either of the democratic nominees have proved to me that they are ready to take on the nations problems in a diplomatic manner. To me they are too busy trying to make each other look bad. But this is my opinion and in no way am I trying to force my opinions on anyone else. One more thing, obviously the presidential ellection does is not based on fund raising or else we would know who was winning already.

Jsaj's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

I understood your statement as saying the military was mostly in support of the war. If I misunderstood that, I apologize.
While you are obviously free to your own opinion, no one is saying you aren't. The whole point of this site is discussion, which arises from disagreement. If everyone thought the same way, then there would be nothing to say.

"Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
Homer Simpson

astarachaos's picture

I think you may have missunderstood my comment but its ok. I have learned that when you type things out or write things it doesnt always come out the way you are meaning it to. I dont blame anyone if they dissagree with me, thats what makes us human. I dissagree with some and agree with others its all part of being a person.

robinsonwc's picture

It is a war that Howard Dean in my opinion needs to stay out of!

robinsonwc's picture

I fully support the armed forces in case anybody want to say that I don't. I support our troops. But, I do not support the war.

Green Underbelly's picture

I dig MoveOn.org's axiom: 'Support the Troops, Bring Them Home'
I think our military has staged a coup on our country. For example, if you watched any of the major news organizations, including Public Broadcasting Station, generals and joint chiefs of staff were used as commentators. I see this type of infilatration as a crime against democracy--something the founding fathers would not exactly dig. Information machines run with little to no oversight by citizens.


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