edited to add that if you are voting for me, I would like to know why you chose to gave me a certain rating but I know most people won't tell so I'll live with it, not knowing why I am getting these ratings
I have a question and it somehow and somewhat has even more significance today because of the historical event that unfortunately took place in New York at the WTC Towers. Without rehashing how painful that was and is and will always be for ALL Americans and humans in general, I want to write something from only a foreigner Pakistani-Muslim perspective
So, they (America) says to the world. We need a War on Terror. We need to find the terrorists that are breeding and breathing in this world. We want to kill them or punish them for doing these horribly awful acts. Yes, they say that but what do they actually do?
They lie and cheat their own people and they convince the rest of the world (those willing to go along with the bull shit) that the War on Terror is actually a war that has to be fought against a specific group and culture and a couple of nationalities.
It is a war that has to be fought in Afghanistan, specifically against the Taliban who were ruining and ravaging their own country and using their power for all the wrong deeds and I agreed- I went along and said that damn that was right.
But truthfully when I thought about it, after the Afghani-Taliban regime had been brought down, the only man we -and America- had to worry about should have been Osama bin Laden.
Osama bin Laden, the one man that once had the whole world on its toes and now it seems no one gave or gives a damn about him..................
Then it seemed like the American regime took a hundred eighty degrees U-turn in the opposite direction and went after Saddam in Iraq because of "WMD" and nuclear missiles and weaponry jargon that was used to put the fear of death and God in people-it made no sense
Saddam and 9/11? Saddam and the war on terror? no connections, none that I can see
Saddam is a horrible man and cruel inhuman monster-is a given but did so many lives have to be lost over one man and his crumbling regime?
DID America have to go in with their big guns and tanks and air to ground missiles and bomb the people and the cities of Iraq to rubble and the ground?
Did it have to come to that or was there..........an alternative and was there....
...some other hidden agenda in the spiel that was used to justify the war on Iraq?
and today "they" aka Newsweek asks Americans, IS PAKISTAN DOING ENOUGH TO DEFEAT THE TALIBAN?
HOLD UP- I thought the great and magnificent regime of the USA had already defeated the Taliban.
I thought there had already been a war against the Taliban regime which had been Osama bin Laden's biggest allies. AND why the heck does Pakistan have to do anythnig to fight someone else's war. Excuse us for already sacrificing our own policemen and army youth to fight in Waziristan and other northern Areas where the US wanted us to search for Osama and his people and Excuse me for feeling like it is not for us to go into a war blindly. Why should the US, bomb people in Pakistani territory and kill innocent children and women and then turn around and expect me and mine to do their dirty work. Excuse me for feeling as if i hate the mentality of some Americans and the guts they have to expect this from us Pakistanis.
We've come full cricle now and all I can think of asking is what exactly has been achieved besides false information and lies being spread.
People are still being killed for all the wrong and misguided reasons. Soldiers dying left and right, but 100 times more are those affected that actually live and breathe and built their world in a place that is now called the war zone. The children of the civilians, the mothers, the brothers, the sisters, the sons and fathers-- uncles, aunts, nephews and nieces, cousins and other loved ones who are lost and killed and sometimes never found.
And you tell me to support America through all this.
How do you even live and sleep and breathe and not hate the fact that you could have changed it all if you had the guts to stand up to the governemnt and demand for answers and demand that you did not want another soldier killed-that another Iraqi kid should not become an orphan. Demand that something be changed, that we repent for the wrongs but what I have to say ---What goes around... goes around... goes around and Comes Back Around.
And Karma and Dharma and all the mystical and religious beliefs in the world can be ignored but what you've( american gov't) done is gone and committed a crime against humanity and killed your own soul, sold it to the devil inside of you that is forever present, to achieve some awfully materialistic and cruel barbaric goal.
further more edited to add that..I have always always always, loved the song "Where is the Love?" by Black Eyed Peas, it speaks for me, to me, about me and you... and it will always remain as one of the most meaningful song because of its message and the lyrics.
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You're asking the same questions I'm asking myself. What I've come up with is that we're fighting two wars; One in Iraq, and one against terrorism. The war against terror really isn't going anywhere. Osama is still hiding in a cave somewhere. As for the war in Iraq, I think Bush's motive was not wmds, but to spread democracy as he wants it. Because no other form of government is good enough. I mean yes, Saddaam did commit horrible crimes, but looking at it with true American Idealism, isn't a government supposed to be of the people for the people? If people there weren't happy with their government, they have the right to overthrow it. (Rousseau) I didn't hear Iraq asking the United States for help. The US just butts its nose in where it doesn't belong.
look at the case of pakistan----
it is not democratic and not for the people and by the people, it used to be in 1999 but now it is not.
BUSH is the biggest reason that we still have a general as president of Pakistan in 2007. the same guy for 8 years. Musharraf's biggest ally has been the US and the US and BUsh have repeatedly ignored the fact that Musharraf is not elected and does not want to hold elections to restore democracry in Pakistan so your argument has no support because you should never pick and choose whch country you want to liberate if you want to spread democracy and that is your only goal
and a very noble one it is, but BUSH is all BS when he said that and i never ever beleived him, sorry to say that but that is the fact of the matter
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
I agree I feel like this administration has caused more heads to spin than I even thought possible. Nothing really adds up, we're not reaching our goals that were originally set out but now suddenly forgotten. If someone on the street asked me why I thought we went to Iraq and what were still doing there, I would say oil to the first one and I have no idea to the second. The war on terror clearly should take a back seat to a falling dictator and his economically defunct nation.
"Love is not enough. It must be the foundation, the cornerstone - but not the complete structure. It is much too pliable, too yielding."
~Bette Davis
and i do feel as though nothing but lives have been lost, it's pathetic and then people try to tell me democracy and i think what do you mean fight for liberation and democracy----
democracy is not giving them food, water or electricity, in the fight for democracy they are losing everything they loved and everything they worked so hard to build, and we are losing our own brothers and sisters and friends and loved ones
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
These are some of the questions that I have also wondered... I could have blogged about that today (of all days), but chose to tackle another issue. I think you've brought up some good points here... Are "the people" really in charge of the govt right now? Should "the people" even be in charge? What does all this say about the morals and ethics of our country as a whole?
Aigh, back to work. :P
that question is something that i will think about for the rest of the day, it's something I believe whole in that the people should run the government, but right now it doesn't seem that people are. Not that the election this past term wasn't fair but Bush still won in that not so traditional winning fashion, Kerry politing choosing not to contest, Iowa? I believe it was. And the election before that, he did lose the popular vote (I believe correct me if I'm wrong).
"Love is not enough. It must be the foundation, the cornerstone - but not the complete structure. It is much too pliable, too yielding."
~Bette Davis
i don't remember everything now since it was 2004 so can you tell me about Iowa..?
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
I think I meant Ohio, I couldn't remember exactly which state it was that all of that went down...like you said it was 2004.
"Love is not enough. It must be the foundation, the cornerstone - but not the complete structure. It is much too pliable, too yielding."
~Bette Davis
i remember that there was controversy but Bush won by very few votes there and the ones that were there, there was a lot of under-handed or some untrustworthy stuff going on but whatever, we should live in the present i guess but it hurts that we don't learn from our mistakes in the past
"to know the past is to be prepared for the future"-Thomas Paine
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
What kind of a fool do you think i am? We don't vote for the President, the electoral college casts the votes that count. Who voted for them? Who are they? And what are the voting machines for and who operates them in the back rooms where no one is looking? Wake up people! Who said government of the people, by the people and for the people? Just another piece of presidential war propaganda in another time of war. America is a representative republic with three branches of government, not a democracy. Thomas Jefferson, the founding father of the republic wrote: “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
This the guy who the drafted the Declaration of Independance and helped write the U.S. Constitution!
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
its your country too girl!
I just meant as in you know it, good, but the fact of the matter is that the electoral college does not have the right or in my opinion should NOT go against the popular vote, so in essence, I don't get the issue, WE should have the right to demand answers from those elected officials who have SCREWED UP , royally, they should be made to defend their actions and pay consequences of their actions...
Wealth, however, does have one advantage over looks: beauty fades, interest accrues." -- Dan Savage
"Wealth never decreases because of charity." Prophet Muhammad (SAW)http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
Unnecessary bloodshed......that pretty much sums it all up.
the sick to the stomach, and heart and soul, feeling about the blood that has been shed by this President and this administration.....
I think I clearly tell why and how I became so ANTI- Bush government and why it is reasonable to be against Iraq War and
----People please stop thinking that Pakistan has the job of finding Osama and his buddies, you're welcom to that job, where he and his croonies live are in the northern areas or in areas where No pakistani outsider dares to set foot...why don;t you try and find him without killing our civilians.
Wealth, however, does have one advantage over looks: beauty fades, interest accrues." -- Dan Savage [I'm feeling like I want bags of cash too]
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight