Why Not the Churches?

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It seems we can't make it through the first two months of the school year without numerous bloody shootings.  As I was sitting in my church today, I looked around at the concentration of people and began to wonder why more churches aren't shot up in the United States. 

In a way, churches are like schools.  People go there to learn about their faith.  Many school shootings are the result of unhappy childhoods, children raised in hateful families, mean classmates, other sorts of trauma, or a combination of these.    Churches are known for their outreach to people that are hurting from these issues.  They take in battered women, creating shelters for them.  My church has been the home of numerous adoptions of childern from the foster system.  Churches are also home to extreme hatred and judgement.  Right along with mean classmates, church goers and "Christians" are quick to judge and often very hateful in telling that judgement.  So why aren't churches targets in these horrible crimes? 

Could it be that deep within themselves, even killers realize that there is something bigger than themselves out there?  Maybe they have this inkling that shooting a church, desecrating a place of worship, would be far worse punishment if there was a God.  Maybe somewhere in the midst of their anguish, they're still crying out for help.  Then again, maybe shooting your peers is more satisfying than gunning down 80 year old ladies.   

School shootings are terrible.  They happen in a place of learning, a place children should feel safe.  Churches are consecrated.  Whether to Allah, God, Jesus Christ, they are considered sacred by the people that worship there.  I can see the difference, but on the other hand, I can't.  Why are schools such a large target for "hate crimes" when churches sometimes behave in the same manner.

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sometimes bombings and such do end up happening at churchs and its really sad.I mean its sad anywhere but just like you said people go to church to learn and grow more in their faith. At my church we have the angel tree which i love doing and then we have a pnatry where we donate food and such to those who don't have any. perhaps people look to the schools because maybe someone there is the one that caused that person to be upset??

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That was exactly my point. The ratio of bombings at churches to schools is probably low, at least to what is publicized on the news (another issue altogether).
At churches, people say things that upset other people. I'd venture to say even more then kids at school do. Youth groups are extremely judgmental and church leaders constantly talk about being pro-family and pro-life, which angers homosexuals and pro-choice people. Why is there such a lack of church shootings in light of that?

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You forgot to include easy access kids have to high power firearms and all the ammunition a pissed off teenager could want in your list of reasons for school shootings.

I'm sure there's probably been shootings in churches and there's definitely been enough religiously motivated murder in the world. Who knows maybe no teen Rambo has thought of that yet. But you have, haven't you, hmmmm. I'll look for you in the news buddy.....
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Bamers's picture
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This wasn't about preventing teen shootings nor was it about gun control, hence me not mentioning access to firearms. Beyond that, it wouldn't effect the point I was making in the blog: church and school are very similar, yet schools are subjected to much more tragedy.

I'm not a teen killer. I find it highly offensive that you would suggest that I will soon be killing people.

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I never said anything about you killing people soon. Those are your words buddy, not mine.
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Who knows maybe no teen Rambo has thought of that yet. But you have, haven't you, hmmmm. I'll look for you in the news buddy.....

I think you implied it very clearly

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asmaw's picture

i personally think that it wasn't a serious comment like you are taking it, it seems very comical and totally UN-serious but maybe that's just how it seems to me
while you think it's clearly implied......that's not how i interpreted it

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TUFFGONG's picture
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"I think you implied it very clearly"

I think you read what you wanted to into it, like those ink blots they show people in therapy, except with words. Your response would raise eyebrows in professional circles, being that you responded by talking about people accusing you of being ready to 'kill people soon.' That coupled with your tendancy to daydream about people shooting up churches and writing blog entries about it, I dunno... I'm glad I don't go to church, that's all I'll say...

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i think that even though both have had shootings and bombings some people still dont look at churches like somewhere to hurt people.i completely agree with you about youth groups being judge mental.the one i used to go to was harsh i hated it because it always had its little cliques and even though you went to learn about your faith it never failed that someone was going to get picked on and i hated that.

asmaw's picture

a school that would have these shootings---

I can only say from my own experience in Pakistan.........there have never been students killing other students in a school or basically killings in schools (there have been mass protests and other stuff that took place in colleges and university against govt and administration)
Whereas, So MANY masjids in Pakistan are targeted by the bombers killing people who have the same faith as them and they ALWAYS choose to bomb near the prayer times so the conclusion that people realize their is a god or that they should not commit such a great sin would not apply in Pakistan (and a lot other Muslim countries)

I don't know if people know about Muslim prayers and how that is but if people want to know, just ask me and I'll explain how most of these bombings and shootings have happened and who has gotten killed.

"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
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" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def

No matter where they are keep up your faith. Don't let your guard down.

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