I pose the question to you guys, Do you think that the influence of popular Hiphop, which is perpetually being kept alive by it's fans and the media, is ultimately the fault of the Artist? The US Government? Or the Fans?
I think that a circular trio with all parties being responsible does seem likely an answer, since all parties have the direct capability to break the cycle. (I've many theories that include emergence on many different subjects. Please excuse this as it's my opinion. Although some of the logic here may seem sound, it is mainly syllogistic. It is best to use your own reasoning at all time and, if you do not like any part of my deductions, definitely tell me about it.)It can be said that hip-hop artist normally rap about current events, and tend to defend themselves in song, as another song by another artist that says something against them, can be considered a direct attack on sales. These artists come up with a [song] retort and provide life to the cycle.HIP HOP consumers are responsible for buying the "verbal fight" or, letting their children listen in, creating an ongoing system in this respect. It has been proven, that children live longer lives; likely because of faster operations and total cognitive relativity toward the new environment. (Again, syllogistically speaking, a deduction from resource link 1) These leave me to operate by deriving my conclusions from these assumptions:1. Children are quick to learn new things. Memory is sensitive. 2. Children have poor ability to inhibit acts such even, those that produce known unfavorable effects. (Punishment) 3. Children do not recognize complex concepts that relate to why an "x" action should be made. 4. Parents have greater tolerances now than the parent of the previous age.It is from these that I can conclude, that hip-hop, being a popular art form, has a direct effect on the conditions of black [and other ethnic background] neighborhoods. This is neither a surprising conclusion nor a stretchy jump. People of color generally have to grow and react to malevolent conditions commonly in bad areas, however, the portrayal of artist images projected through readily available media hurls cascading malevolent styles of art to the young of the neighborhood. This art is misunderstood by the young and a cosmetic message persists, ( I -speculate- that children view, even for a brief second, this media and subconsciously learn to imitate this behavior because of its ?cool? presentation. This is called, ?Latent learning? paired with ?Observational learning? Google: latent+learning* or Observational+Learning* ) throwing away the underlining message, if any. The young grow up, are less inclined to punish their own children for something that they perceive as, ?less of an evil?.As for the government? The government (As implied in the three branches we all learned in history by now) is responsible for providing barriers for any act that disrupts the rights of another being even if that action is not perceived by the victim.That said, the gangster rap also degrades societal moral (Google: Morality) values to persons, (Person, as defined: a living human being or a group, either or both having legal rights and responsibilities) who do not understand the art of the movement (if any) to improve the conditions that brought it into existence. (Mainly those inexperienced ?children, the unintended audience- in deciphering the message, if any) Resource link1:
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ456291&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=eric_accno&accno=EJ456291
(For more on this theory, google, " Children time+perception* ")
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I think (an this is just MY opinion) that rap is someone's way of expressing theirselves. That's who they are and what they believe and what they have to say. Don't be so quick to judge. Music, whether it's rap, country, opera, or pop, is just another form of poetry and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if you don't like it, then don't support it.
Thanks for answering! I pose a question to you. If Martin Luther King was a man who supported glorifying a negative picture of how life should be, how would that have changed how we are today? Do you think that that change would be for the better, or worse?
Weird question? Well, I'm substituting variables here. Artist now, create content containing their voice -their message- to send out to the masses. ...And while The US does sport freedom of expression and opinion, many people twist it.
While you can say anything you want, the law filters illegal rights of speech which would fit the criteria of something that would -directly or indirectly- object to the legal freedoms of another.
What did I just say? The application of this is that certain types of music, or rather maybe I should say, explicit lyrics in general affect those who can't see the meaning of rap other than the jewlery, women, and money. Turns out, ALOT of the children, or young adults, or adults even, don't understand it. And act on the wrong thing.
Expression? I can threaten to kill, steal, cheat, and otherwise freely? Clearly, The limits of verbal freedoms are stretched past their limits.
I'm not being confrontationally arguementative, but psychologically speaking, people view this and dynamically set new subconcious standards toward behavior thresholds. Immediately, this is classical conditioning. Over the long term time span, it is known as shaping. So, do you agree that lyricist have the influence to mainpulate masses of people whether intended or nonintended? Do you think, if it is true, under the condition that the masses repond to certain images and presentations that were perfected by the entertainment industry, that the people react on a conditioned basis to this music?
My final question stands that do you think that this is a positive or a negative effect on the general public.
(By the way I don't listen to Rap, I prefer classical -no singing- I lost my respect for singers awhile ago)
This was quite interesting to read, and your points were well thought about (although a few more facts, and fewer random question marks, would have been nice - but heh, its a blog). Anyways, rap has always been a part of American culture (read: American). Ever since the slaves were brought over from Africa, they brought over their traditional call and response and improvisational singing techniques. And, it has been used as a form of free expression ever since. So, getting read of rap or defaming it would be defaming the American belief in freedom of expression
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I see. Well I want to say that I've no intention of defaming rap.
I'm making a request for the change in content. Having done personal research, I understand the history of Hiphop (My pop's was very keen on teaching us our roots, as well as being awake to domestic and worldly issues) and I do like some artists myself, Common, Kanye West, KRS1, are an example of acceptable artists (Hundreds more as well) That's also not to say that "Gansta" Rap is bad, It IS a cry for community intervention. However, how many artists does it take to make everyone see that the "hood" is a messed up place? 10? 20? 80? While there is a considerable amount of Rap artists performing in a very diverse "game", The stablizing top tips heavily in favor of overly dumbed down music about what?
I have this seemingly unfavorable habit of listening to the words of music that has lyrics. I like it when someone spits a heavy line, like, "Rappers spit rhymes that are mostly illegal, MC’s spit rhymes to uplift they people" -KRS1 or "What they define as classic is timeless, cause age don’t count in the booth when your flow stays submerged in the fountain of youth" - Rakim, later in the same song, "Classic". This proves that you can make a good song, even without going crazy.
I'm not anti-rap, I'm a bit of a poet myself, I didn't grow anywhere else but hempstead.
I'm just tired of seeing kids go to school and fail mistery because they think that the work is unimportant. I actually have more questions too.
If my *theories are incorrect, then why is it that a student can memorize a whole rap song but not understand that he can use the same "memnonic" method to better his study habits. (It is implied that he's enjoys rap)
Why is it that White students who listen to rap for "entertainment" score higher than blacks who swear by the music. Priorities?
I expected like, alot more responses... xP