There are basically three types of men: jerks who get the girls; nice guys who are pathetic with women; and nice guys who get women. Why oh why do women keep saying that they want a nice guy. Then always end up going after some stupid jerk? Don’t believe when women say that they want a guy who is sensitive, caring, understanding, that will treat them with respect, and on and on. Do NOT believe what women SAY. Instead, WATCH what women DO. They go after the jerks, don't they? “Listen carefully. Females OF ALL SPECIES were genetically programmed by Mother Nature to MATE with the dominant males of their species, NOT the weak ones. BY mating with the dominant males of their particular species, the GENES of the strongest males were passed to the newborn thus assuring its SURVIVAL in a very hostile environment. You can observe this MATING RITUAL happening over and over aging in the animal kingdom. Here is HOW Nature assured the SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: First: Nature had to find a way to make the female willing to surrender and MATE with the male. There had to be an INCENTIVE for her to WANT to mate. Would you engage in sexual intercourse if it were absolutely boring or unpleasant?. Of course not. So, in order to make her a WILLING participant, the female of the species was programmed to feel all those intense, uncontrollable, overwhelming, pleasurable FEELINGS that makes her ready to go ahead and MATE. Have you heard the expression: my female dog is in HEAT?. You know that this female dog goes CRAZY. If that dog were not in HEAT, there would be no copulation, no mating. Second: Nature wanted to preserve the strongest traits of that species. Therefore, the female was programmed to have those crazy, wild feelings and emotions PREDOMINANTLY toward THE STRONGEST, MOST DOMINANT MALES, the ones that she COULD NOT CONTROL, the ones that would dominate her. You must have observed in Wildlife that the female does NOT surrender to the weakest, but she waits for the WINNER AMONG ALL THE MALES fighting for her favors. And the winner is always the strongest one. And the fighting itself contributes to make her quite EXCITED. And the sight of the winner makes her even MORE excited to the point where she WILLINGLY surrenders and MATES WITH THE WINNER. Do you understand what I said?. The female was programmed by Mother Nature to feel ATTRACTED to and MATE with the dominant males, not the weak ones. Is it the strong male, not the weak, the one who makes her FEEL really excited and turned on. Well, guess what. Women, the females of our species, have exactly THAT SAME INFORMATION still coded in their genetic structure. And -this ancient MATING INSTINCT is constantly being REINFORCED in ALL women, FROM A VERY EARLY AGE, by the heroes of Hollywood, TV and the mindless soap operas and romantic novels that women devour. All these heroes are supremely self-confident, strong, untamable, they cannot be controlled by ANY woman, they treat women roughly, they can do no wrong, they always say the right things and make the right moves, they SWEEP WOMEN OFF THEIR FEET and they always end up getting the females. THE MESSAGE BEING CONSTANTLY REINFORCED IN ALL SINGLE WOMEN is that ONLY the uncontrollable, untamable guy is desirable. And that ANY nice guy should be ignored. Therefore, women all over the world keep dreaming about some knight in a shining armor WHO will SWEEP THEM OFF THEIR FEET, and dominate them and make them go totally OUT OF CONTROL and possess them. That is why the strong, dominant, unpredictable, untamable male is a turn-on for ANY WOMAN. She was programmed to respond to that kind of a male. She goes "NUTS" for this type of guy. She will do ANYTHING to try to get him.”
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not true my boyfriend is a good guy and he has got me
may be true for you but generally speaking women do go for jerks
WELL LOTS OF GUYS ONLY GO FOR SLUTS
Well if we are to assume the logic of this post is true (and I'm inclined to put a shade of faith in it) the males are more likely to go for the female who will "give in" to them.
-Tim
"It costs nothing to be honest, loyal, and true." -Avett Bros.
Well, what Jarhead has said isn't exactly false either. Women choosing the "nice" guy is still very rare.
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Its often called the "nice guy effect" the nicer you are and the more you respect a girl the less likely she is willing to date you. The more you ignore her the more likely she will date you. Often the girls will go for jerks first only after that will they go with nice guys.
Well it's complex. Guys want a girl that will do anything, but not too much of a slut, or good. Girls want a guy that is nice, but not to feminine, yet macho, until the guy beats her up. It's a matter of getting lucky
Ok heres the problem guys. All the jerks that are getting the girls are the ones with confidence. They don't really have regard for respecting woman, but they have the moves. So really all the nice guys are missing is the confidence. Because confidence is how a male human projects his dominance. A guy can be nice and a good guy and all that, but if he doesn't think he can get the girl because he's so discouraged about all the jerks getting girls out there, then he's not going to score. We are just hurting ourlselves. Now in theory this seems perfect to me, but in practice I'm still working on it. I'll let you know when I can execute it.
Alex J.
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"Follow not me, but you!" -Friedrich Nietzsche
I didn't bother reading that thoroughly because you have failed to implant a heaven-sent device called "paragraph." Still, I get the gist. The problem is you're only looking at girls who are also quite lustful. What about all those nice girls? I've met plenty of them (most of them, I have to point out, are Christians), and they usually want more than HAWT SEX. Are you ignoring them just like the girls you're lusting for are ignoring you?
I must agree that hollywood projects strange ideas into the minds of women as to what the perfect man is. I would also point out that hollywood projects equally strange ideas about women into men's minds. The first and foremost being that the most important thing in a relationship for a woman is surrendring and having sex. Sex seems to be the driving factor for men, for women it's (in reality) usually a sense of community, having a friend for life, the support system and the idea of 'togetherness' sex is just a nice plus.
On that note I would also argue that a lot of nice guys get girls, in fact girls marry the nice guys. They don't date them, realize they are huge jerks and then break up in a display of fireworks that the entire world sees. You don't constantly hear about nice steady relationships like you do 'shooting stars'.
~CallieV
Generally speaking there ARE nice girls out there who DO go for nice guys... sum girls wud want the bad lad type and sum girls wud want the sweet guy next door. You can't really place all girls in one category, that's just not how it works.
I definitely think that confidence matters a lot. The "jerks" tend to ask girls out all of the time just because they think they're so cool, or whatever. The nice guys, in contrast, tend to act more covert, giving girls no signals that they're into them at all.
I definitely like nice guys. My worst nightmare is dating some jerk like I know a lot of girls are attracted to. And Coleen is right--guys pick out the slutiest girls ever.
Allison Parker
"Be the change you want to see in the world" ~Mahatma Gandhi
Here's a newsflash, being a jerk is a MAJOR turnoff. I would not date a jerk. Sure we may tend to like the strong men with the moves, but are all of those guys jerks, no. I am always attracted to the nice guys, I want a guy that can hold up his end of the relationship, who willrespect me, can have an actual conversation, buys flowers and knows how to treat a lady. Chivalry isn't dead, try it.
I'm sorry about that.
I go for the nice guys. Jerks...well I just feel the need to kick them in the ass.
I'm not accusing any of you specifically...but most girls do THINK they go for the nice guys.
-Tim
"It costs nothing to be honest, loyal, and true." -Avett Bros.
Heh, I get what you mean. I'm sure people have different interpetations of what they think is "nice".
Yea. I do think a big part of it is that in most cases, when just meeting someone (especially someone you'd be interested in) people do act nice. It isn't until a relationship is established that either partner really gets to find out how the other acts. Of course, there may be a correlation between the type confidence that men who are successful with women have and them and being a jerk once things are established. It's then, once there is a relationship that the "nice guy" friends see how the "jerk" boyfriend acts and just assume the girl chased after this guy who was a dick to her from the start.
There are always exceptions of course. Not all confident folks are jerks, not all girls chase jerks, and not all nice guys finish last. Just my thoughts.
-Tim
"It costs nothing to be honest, loyal, and true." -Avett Bros.
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im sick of "good guys" saying that they dont get girls. thats not true. girls do search for sweet, honest guys in a serious relationship and girls dont usually last long with "jerks". jerks are just for fun.
also, i dont think there are good and bad guys, there is just things that boys do that make them seem that way.
its true that girls want a guy a male that can defend and protect them, but you dont have to be a jerk to demonstrate you can do that.
o, and hopeless romantics shouldn't spoil a girl too much because that actually drives us away before the relationship starts. that is because a guy usually does sweet things befor a relationship to hit it and quit it, not all, but most.
think i got too carried away with this, but take it from a female with lots of female friends that talk about this.
Although it seems (in hs especially) that girls always go for the bad guys, girls really do want someone they can trust. Girls will start going for the good guys when they mature a little bit.
Sorry But I have to say I have always treated women with the upmost respect and i try to be as nice to them as much as I can. And where has it got me? Absolutely nowhere and Im 27 now.
Ive tried everywhere 'Libraries, Nightclubs, Pubs, Supermarkets, Friends of friends, College, University, Work, Course, etc.. And i have been rejected in the end every single times and I am talking like 200+ attempts in my time and not got anywhere.
The funny thing is I always end up being their buddy; and they say to me oh don't worry you'll find someone really special one day? And I've never been that desperate, i' have been willing to wait but I;m starting to think I need a new plan of action. As things are now all i can do is watch as the girl I've dated/pursued is stolen from me by some jerk guy and she's doing him in no time at all.
I mean I go out with them and do stuff like go to the cinema, a pub, a restaurant/fast food place, etc.. but theres never any fireworks and we never find much to talk about. Next thing I know shes with a guy and she's alive and talking her head off with him and flirting with him and its over for me. She will be all over a guy who makes her feel alive and buzzing.
Anyway i believe you can make up for being a nice guy if your really interesting and can make a women feel alive hanging on you every world. Also of course if your a jerk also can make her feel the same way. However sadly if your like me who is neither interesting or a jerk you are doomed unless your lucky. Man I even tried pole dancing once for some girls before :).
So I'm thinking i need a new plan of attack here; because seriously unless i get lucky i am gonna end up 40 and still single before you know it. Time to take up a more bad boy attitude and try to be more interesting (I'm pretty dull). Although it just doesn't feel like me if I'm like that.
Anyway if any women are reading this is there any advice you can give? How can i make you feel more alive without resorting to being an ass? :).