I'm a Christian and I moved to a new school. Apparently everyone hates me for it. I need help I know I should be strong. I can't help but to break down. I feel as if rocks are being thrown at my being as a whole??? Why should I be the new center of attention? Whats wrong with beleiveing in something. Maybe I'm just a horrible christian. My faith is being torn day and thats really odd. I though I could withstand anything. Maybe not. I just need a lot of prayer. Being a Christian is so hard. It's not a walk in the park like every one thinks. We also have problems. Is this so bad that my senior class has to hate me for it.
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I highly doubt that your senior class hates you for your religion unless you wound up in a school that has a high concentration of other religions and few Christians. These aren't common in the world of public schools, at least where I come from which is New York city, one of the most diverse cities in the world. You may just not be liked because you're the new kid and these people have been together for three years already.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
bRANDI The reason for my thinking is that I was used to having a school in which everyone atleast acknowlegde that god was there. It's a very weird thing and hard to explain
So, you went to a religious school, or a public school in a religious community. Now there are people of other faiths as well as atheists who disagree with you. Is that what you are sayinf?
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Yes I do go to public schools and people don't agree with me being a christian . They also say im a hypocrit.
My questions :
Before you came to your new school, what kind of school were you in?
What was the religious make-up of the student body?
In what way do the people at your new school disagree with you being Christian?
Are some of them just not Christian?
Did you do anything related to your religion that could have created animosity?
Did you try to convert people?
Did you try to convince people not to engage in certain behaviors?
Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Its basically the same less than 20 mins apart from each other
They were mostly christian/other
They comment on my status They say its fake
aLot of them are not
I only said I was a christian
No I din't try to convert them
No I said nothing to them about their behavior
So people saying that they think your belifs are wrong is discrimation? I'm sure that you think the beliefs of non-christians are wrong. Does that mean that you're discriminating.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Don't lose hope, or dispair. The world will mock you for your faith, and you are REALLY not alone in that. The life of a Christian really is a hard one, morso than anyone understands.
John 15:
18"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.'[b] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.
In our discussions on that blog about the shootings in del val----you told me that there comes a time when one needs to grow up and not whine and have their panties in a bunch (something very similar to this) over the prejudice treatment i get because i am muslim- i will go search and get your words verbatim if you deny this
here though i love the attitude and words of comfort you are giving
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
You're kind of becoming my pet stalker, aren't you?
the time I told you that there comes a time to stop whining and put on the big girl panties had nothing to do with the deal in Iraq (when the thread was on shootings at a college in delaware)
It had to do with your whining and ranting in my thread about the President of Iran addressing the Press Corps, because I didn't specify which branch of islam the President of Iran belongs to, I just stated that he's a dangerous loony, which you apparently had a problem with.
Yet you drag it around from thread to thread. What POSSIBLE relevance does your anger at me have to do with this poster who is depressed over being discriminated against and hated based on their faith?
Here is a CLEAR example that you can relate to and, instead, you 'doubt' him and take pot shots at me.
i seem to remember you telling me to get over the fact that people will commit racial acts, my bad if that is not what you were directing those specific comments at though it sure seemed that way
be very well comforted that I am not stalking you, I am just asked about your choice of words to me and then your choise of words to someone else under the same circumstances...
I doubt because this person makes it seem like the WHOLE high school population and ALL the seniors are choosing to discriminate over the fact that the person is christian. quite frankly i don't buy that bull, even when I was discriminated against, it wasn't everyone in my high school or any specific whole group doing that to me such as seniors or juniors or whatever.
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Hate to say it, but in America, Christians have it easy. The number of hate crimes against a person because they are Christian is remarkably low. On the other hand, the number of hate crimes against a person because they are Muslim or Jewish (probably done by some Christians) is pretty high. This is not the country to pull out the persecution card.
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Unfortunately, the actions of a few big-name Christians have damaged the image of all of us normal, regular-people Christians. We're not alone - the history of the world is one of people suffering from generalizations of the groups they happen to identify with. It's hard, but hold fast and show through your actions and words that you are a good, respectable, and likeable person. Notice I said "person," not "Christian." Your religion is nobody's business but your own.
and I don't doubt the horrible experiences you are having, you must be having them but I just doubt your justification that everything is attributed and blamed on your Christian beleifs/your religion.
I don't think that because it seems very far fetched idea. where in America is this happening and really is it EVERONE or just a handful of people who are treating you this way.????
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Why do you doubt? You say that you are discriminated against solely because of your religion.
You've claimed many times that you're discriminated against because you're a muslim.
Why is it that you can claim this, but you doubt it if someone else claims it?
the claim this treatment is because someone is CHRISTIAN
i admit it, because the religion in question is Christianity and almost 70 + percentage of the population in America is christian maybe even more, I'll get you exact numbers once i get home
and why do you comfort christians, is that preference over muslims?
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
" "love em all,trust a few,and fear none"....thats wassup.one love. peace." mos def
Oh, yes, the majority still claim to be christian, but that doesn't change how people are treated in schools.
If you do not smoke, do drugs, get drunk and have alot of sex, because of your faith, you are ridiculed for it.
It happened when I was in high school as well.
Frankly, you should understand that well. As an islamic girl, I imagine that you don't have sex out of wedlock, drink alcohol, do drugs or smoke, as those are items that are on your 'no no' list as well.
You should be able to empathize with this person, instead of doubting them.
I find it interesting that the atheist and the islamic girl come in to doubt, but the other christians come in to console.
Virtually every time I hear of a Christian's rights being stomped on or being discriminated against, it turns out the Christian had a direct hand in causing it. For instance, a girl was said to be discriminated against because she spoke of Jesus. It turns out she actually tried to convert the audience, and she lied to the school staff about which speech she was going to make.
In fact, in recent memory or even historical, it's hard to find one instance where a Christian is discriminated against.
That's a bit harsh, the last bit. I'm sure there are cases where Christians have been discriminated against.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Maybe you can?
Even thinking long and hard now, I can't.
I don't know of any either, but I assume there must be some.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
ooo.. historical? Ok, let's go WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back:
Romans feeding christians to lions as entertainment.
More recent history? How about a kid who wore a "Straight Pride" shirt and was suspended for it?
Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ac9e98b196b.htm
little girl told she's not allowed to read her bible in school:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/02/AR200610...
And, of course, we already discussed students, like the poster of this thread, being insulted and such by classmates.
OK, Romans are not recent history. I think we were talking American. I don't agree with the straight pride suspension or the bible ban, however, these are not quite so wide-spread.
As for the poster of this blog, I still atest that the discrimination in his/her case is not likely caused exclusively my the fact that she is Christian.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Why, how amazingly fascinating. However, let me clear up my doubts for you. A huge portion of the population of this country is Christians, at least by their own name. I find it highly unlikely, therefore, that the person would be in a situation where she would be in a school where the whole senior class was not Christian, seeing as Christians probably wouldn't discriminate against themselves.
It is possible that brandihall17 is Evangelical, or overly critical of the actions of the people around her for other reasons. This could cause discrimination. Or it could be that she is new to a class of people who had been together for three years, at least, already. This could cause discrimination.
As for the whole discriminating because she doesn't smoke, drink, indulge in promiscuous behavior or whatever else you attribute to average teens, that's bullshit. I never did any of those things and never heard a word about it against me.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
I'm guessing that you also didn't say it was because you are a Christian.
You sugested that the posters religious beliefs would have led her not to participate in such activities and would therefore cause discrimination. I don't believe that. First of all, not behaving in these ways are not exclusive to the religious. Second of all, I don't think that is likely going to cause any discrimination with a lot of people whatever your religion is.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
bRANDI Thanks to everyone I needed help with this
Hey man, first of all I would like to say that I am a Christian and whether or not people know or want to admit it, there is allot of persecution for Christians yes in America too, it's hard to see if you're not a Christian, but it's there in many different ways.
I got made fun of so much in my school days just for simply refusing to conform, let alone for staying away from drugs alcohol and sex.
But I feel so good knowing that I didn't give into it, because I'm not living for what other people think of me I'm living for God, whether or not I live to the degree I should, and at the end of the day I want to be able to respect myself.
I feel sometimes like no one understands me and what I'm going through, it's times like these that show me that's not true, and yes there are allot of so called Christians in America, unfortunately they don't live that way and we have to remember that we are not perfect and that's why we are Christians.
I just want to encourage you to press on regardless of how people treat you, it feels much worse to give up on your conscience.
I ask that you don't let these people intimidate you, I believe that's why they're here, being used to test us, we all have our place and we all need to be saved.
If it wasn't something serious it wouldn't be the forefront for constant attacks and constant strengths.
People who aren't Cristian (example: me) can not condone drugs and promiscuity and drinking and smoking. That can, depending on the students, cause alienation from a certain group of students and perhaps cause them to ridicule you, but that would not be because of your religion.
Personally I feel that most of the so-called discrimation against the Christian faith is either forcing it to be treated the same as other faiths or completely imagined.
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
Well that's your opinion, I guess you couldn't fully understand unless you were a Christian.
Everyone feels discrimated against. That's life. Nobody likes everybody. But my expiriene, yes, I've had some, is that most of what Christians call discrimination is, in fact, disagreement or putting it on an equal level. And, I perfectly understand the statement that "I live in a country that is mostly Christians, but I'm discriminated against."
"Every man makes a god of his own desire."
-Virgil
I was a Christian, until I think I finally decided to change religions after my first year in college. I personally think that if my friends knew I was planning on converting to another religions, they would discriminate against me. The ONLY time I have been discriminated against because of my religion is in meeting my boyfriend. He doesn't hold Christians in a very positive light because Christians haven't been the nicest people in the world to him. However, now that he's known me for over three years, he holds them in a better regard. Probably helps that he goes to a secular school now, where Christians are much more common.
Christians by and large are not persecuted in America. At least, not for their religion exclusively. Now, if you try to go out and pressure people into converting, then yeah, you're going to be persecuted. And EVERYONE faces some sort of discrimination. That's why cliques exist in high school. That is not persecution. Persecution is more severe than getting teased for not doing whatever (whether it be sex, drugs, or alcohol). Persecution is getting beaten and harrassed severely for being of a certain race, religion, whatever. The chances of you getting rocks thrown at you because you're Christian are slim to none.
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I don't have anything against people saying they are discriminated but in this case it just seems too outrageous that people in HS are-- all-- picking on this person because of her religion
and she's Christian..and it's HS and if one stands strong in their beliefs even if the person is not religious or of a religion and says No to sex, alcohol and drugs, kids in HS still taunt and make fun---that's NOT because they hate the religion or hate people who practice a certain religion
well, that's my opinion, thanks for sharing your own experiences
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