Declaration of Faith is not Progressive! : Just a Word of Advice

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Gah, we have it every contest folks and now it is happening again. What I like to call, the nonprogressive, God blog. Seriously folks, write something progressive. Knocking off new posts so you can tell us how much you love God is really very annoying. I'm glad you believe what you believe, but c'mon, I don't need to read Bible verses I read in church, when I am trying to talk about progressive topics.

"But this is progressive."

Yes, about as progressive as me shoving my foot up someones ass. It is painful because it shows that either you are way, way to enamored with God, or you have a lack of understand about a website devoted to discussion, not preaching. So please, put the, "We need to fall behind God", back into its basket. If you're going to write about God, make it progressive, not a declaration of faith. I have to listen to that at church every Sunday, and I don't want to read it while trying to make a difference...a difference that can be seen, not one that we believe is happening when it clearly is thanks to something seeable.

I understand this is a free country and website, but there are rules about progressive writing, not declarations of your faith. If you want to do so, make it progressive like some of our Pagan, Jewish, Muslim writers have done...because really, is it that hard of a concept to understand?

Just some advice.

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But, if everyone gave their hearts and souls to Jesus Christ there would be no more wars or death penalty or child molestation or teen pregnancy or heathen indigenous people or...or cussing! The world would be a perfect place if we all acted like the self-professing Christians that worked in government or ran big mega-churches. We would all be psychologically sound, well-adjusted people with love in our hearts to share with all the world as long as they aren't gay, Jewish, Muslim, unwed mothers....

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lol

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Christianity is the number one cause of death in human history.



I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge

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Religions is the number one cause of death...actually God is.

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Ah, that's right, religion in general. My mistake. I don't know that I'd agree that God is, simply because of the god-kings, but it's mainly because I have two different connotations between a God and a god-king, both of which have done their fair share of killing.



I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge

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Cussing are you kidding me? LOL. Sorry to burst your bubble but many people who "worship" god do worse things than many people who don't or aren't absorbed into their religions. Religion is making the world destructive.

This world would never be perfect. It is not all about lollipops, rainbows, unicorns and shear happiness like some people think it is...wow.

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He was being sarcastic.



I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge

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Disregard the first comment people. I am a ditz, I hate it when I make myself look stupid. ugh. :[

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that Christians have made for themselves a non-progressive reputation. There are smart, thinking, intelligent Christ-followers out there who don't do the things that you obviously have the impression that all of them do.

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"All things appear and disappear because of the concurrence of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything is in relation to everything else."
-Buddha

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While not all Christians do that, either the vast majority or very, very vocal minority of the Christians on this website do, in fact, consistently post pretty much the same type of post at one point or another. We've seen enough of those types of posts that we usually ignore them. However, that doesn't appear to be working.

Yes. this is a "free country" and people can blog whatever they want, but ProU is a private institution, which means it has Terms of Service that dictate what can and can't be posted on the site. One of those stipulations is that the posts be progressive (it then goes into defining what the site considered progressive). All the blog entries are also subject to the determination of the moderator team, and they have also voiced their opinion on redundant, over-used topic posts in general, which I believe the general consensus is that the aforementioned declaration of faith posts are just that.



I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge

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I agree that there is a problem - the statement of "you're wrong because that's just not of God, become a Christian and know the 'truth'" etc. etc. etc. I agree that they are very vocal. They are also raised to believe that they are "called" to be vocal in this way. To them, this is progress (in some ways, at least the most immature of the most contemporary Christian movement). I'm just saying that it's sad that I feel ashamed of my faith because of what other people have done to it. I am technically "Christian" ... but I don't really like calling it that because of what so many people have done to its definition. I agree with you. I'm just putting it out there that not ALL "Christians" are that way or believe that way.

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I understand that, I was just pointing out the majority of them on here, who that is all they do.

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Not necessarily the majority. Just the ones that you see. It's like the world - the only ones you know of are the ones that are loud. And the ones that are loudest are the ones that no one really wants to hear. So to say "majority" is an unresearched opinion. You're really only looking at the "Christians" who post about being a "Christian." I'm a Christian, and I'm fairly certain I have not made one blog post about my faith.

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"All things appear and disappear because of the concurrence of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything is in relation to everything else."
-Buddha

I disagree. I am religious, and I see religion as the philosophy of the soul- there is not much more "progressive" than the very meaning of our existence. As for people who simply use their blogs to profess their faith- good for them. Blogs are the ultimate form of free speech, and in addition, I think the world could use a little more religiously inspired morals and ethics.

As for your argument against the progressive nature of professing religion, I didn't get it. Since when is comparing something to "shoving my foot up someone's ass" a legitimate argument? You sound a little exasperated and desperate there. Besides, no one is forcing you to read those blogs. So how about practicing what you preach, do something progressive, and not criticize someone on the basis of religion?

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Saying "I love the christian god and serve him and you should too" is not progressive. If you argue the point with something other than "he has made my life so much better" then at least you're going in the right direction...

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There is a difference between posting about religious philosophy and simply preaching.

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son_of_disaster's picture
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I don't care if you discuss religion, but saying, "my religion is right, you're going to burn in hell." Is not progressive. Professing your faith with no backing basis is not progressive. I think religions should look at the foundation of their morals and see that there are natural laws that preceed all religious laws. So technically morals and ethics aren't particularlly religiously founded.

I was criticizing their ignorance for how to discuss their religions progressively because mostly the blogs are, "God is good, follow God." That's not very progressive, I equate that to shoving one's foot up someone's ass. I was practicing what I preach, this was progressive, I said nothing against Christianity, I said it against the ignorance of the majority of Christians on here to writing progressive blogs.

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I agree, and I'm a Christian.

There's a time and a place, and this isn't it.

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DrifterDani6886's picture

If someone can put intellectual thoughts into a blog besides expressing their love for god then maybe those blogs would be worth reading. I totally agree with you. It is annoying and not progressive.

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